EPT[IEM Season IX] Cologne - Page 45
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ExceliosBeyond
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Kupon3ss
時の回廊10066 Posts
On December 22 2014 09:40 wei2coolman wrote: People complain about 'protect the dl' play style, but tbh, there's absolutely nothing wrong with it. DL is generally a good enough ADC to pull off the strategy off, problem is that they're forced to play the style because of individual fuckups in their teams. Wouldn't read too much into this, since hopefully xmithie is somewhat better than thinkcard. Ofc there is. While there's nothing wrong with having a carry player who's medicore individually, but if that individually average at best carry forces your team to play around him every game - then you as a team is basically hopeless | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On December 22 2014 13:49 Kupon3ss wrote: Ofc there is. While there's nothing wrong with having a carry player who's medicore individually, but if that individually average at best carry forces your team to play around him every game - then you as a team is basically hopeless I dunno how you can look at game 2-4 and say that DL forced his team to play around him. rofl. | ||
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Kupon3ss
時の回廊10066 Posts
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
Doublelift is living proof that I was wrong, not everyone can do what Flame was doing, and like Kupon3ss said, at this point they have to know that it doesn't work I'm not sure why they keep going back to it. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On December 22 2014 14:32 Slusher wrote: Back when CJ Blaze was in their one trick warhorse days, I wrongly used to not give flame enough credit. People would rave about how he would get 100+ cs up on his lane opponent and carry his team on his back and I'd think you guys give him too much credit, his team allows him to be useless for 30 min so he can do that. Doublelift is living proof that I was wrong, not everyone can do what Flame was doing, and like Kupon3ss said, at this point they have to know that it doesn't work I'm not sure why they keep going back to it. they go back to it, because when they play any other style, everyone else on the team falls apart. | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
be very specific, no cliche allowed. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On December 22 2014 15:51 Slusher wrote: how is that different from doing it and losing? be very specific, no cliche allowed. Did you watch the games? It sort of worked out for them impact wise. DL was doing the damages, but late game shotcalling is still an issues. Running that specific strategy is fine, it's not like they were lacking the tools to win the game by running it. Their losses came from people getting caught out that shouldn't of been getting caught out, misplaying early teamfights where the ADC is still weak, bad lategame calls, etc etc. | ||
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TitusVI
Germany8319 Posts
On December 22 2014 10:44 ExceliosBeyond wrote: I'm still not even convinced Xmithie is going to be any good but if CLG thought he performed well in the tryouts, its gotta be because he showed something. He had a pretty lackluster showing in some of the challenger tournaments he played. of course he did good in tryouts when there isn't anyone else to compete with. They didn't approached any other lcs/good talents they just looked at the people wo send them a message. Thats the reason they again took link. | ||
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Kavas
Australia3421 Posts
On December 22 2014 17:40 TitusVI wrote: of course he did good in tryouts when there isn't anyone else to compete with. They didn't approached any other lcs/good talents they just looked at the people wo send them a message. Thats the reason they again took link. For real? Didn't they scout for anyone (assuming they have anything resembling a scouting team)? Makes you appreciate how SKT scouted Faker and modeled a team around him. Although in NA it'll probably be harder since 3/4 of the top 10 are all Turtle and his smurfs and the rest all established pros. | ||
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oo_Wonderful_oo
The land of freedom23126 Posts
On December 22 2014 18:58 Kavas wrote: For real? Didn't they scout for anyone (assuming they have anything resembling a scouting team)? Makes you appreciate how SKT scouted Faker and modeled a team around him. Although in NA it'll probably be harder since 3/4 of the top 10 are all Turtle and his smurfs and the rest all established pros. Because there is no junglers in NA comparable to Meteos, lol. They tried out Thinkcard and Inori who're both considered to be as top-2 youngsters in the jungle for the region, and while one is just bad, second is known tilter who is playing with Chaox and Lactea top now in China. Turtle and Pobelter are holding 7/10 or something spots in NA challenger top-10, who cares about it. | ||
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Mensol
14536 Posts
Someone like P1noy can't win the lane against Doublelift under right circumstances. Oh well, my heart aches. | ||
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ShootAnonymous
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Kupon3ss
時の回廊10066 Posts
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
On December 23 2014 04:06 Redox wrote: Games were not exactly high level but lots of fun. I recommend watching the final. yeah I get that a lot of people are complaining about the sloppy play this series but it was definitely the most enjoyable in a very long time for me to watch. | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
On December 22 2014 18:58 Kavas wrote: For real? Didn't they scout for anyone (assuming they have anything resembling a scouting team)? Makes you appreciate how SKT scouted Faker and modeled a team around him. Although in NA it'll probably be harder since 3/4 of the top 10 are all Turtle and his smurfs and the rest all established pros. the korean model is kind of different in two ways. first, they get kids at 16 or 17, as early as they get out of high school, and send them straight to 16 hour a day practice sweatshop. it's hard to do that in NA, and it is not good for the player either. second, the ladder and amateur scene is more developed. faker is a can't miss prospect because besides the really high ladder score he also participated in a lot of amateur tournaments with a bunch of amateur teams. skt isn't that good at scouting, they just throw around their weight and get the best youngster out there. | ||
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