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On September 30 2014 01:40 Gahlo wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2014 01:23 Mikau wrote:
Out of curiosity, which champion is it that only got banned? Aatrox? Yup. + Show Spoiler [Champion list dump] +PICKED
Ahri
Alistar
Blitzcrank
Braum
Caitlyn
Corki
Elise
Evelynn
Ezreal
Fizz
Graves
Irelia
Janna
Jarvan
Jayce
Jinx
Kassadin
Katarina
Kayle
Khazix
Kogmaw
Lee Sin
Leona
Lissandra
Lucian
Lulu
Maokai
Morgana
Nami
Mundo
Nidalee
Nunu
Orianna
Pantheon
Rammus
Rengar
Riven
Rumble
Ryze
Sona
Swain
Syndra
Talon
Thresh
Tristana
Twitch
Twisted Fate
Vayne
Vi
Xerath
Yasuo
Zed
Ziggs
Zilean
ONLY BANNED
Aatrox
Freddy the savior
I kinda wanted to see him on Aatrox though D:
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A few that have situational use:
Hecarim
Kennen
Nocturne
Yorick
I don't see any more variety coming in this WC though, without the presence of some cheesy strategy (ex. heimerdinger)
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On September 30 2014 02:30 Lmui wrote:
A few that have situational use:
Hecarim
Kennen
Nocturne
Yorick
I don't see any more variety coming in this WC though, without the presence of some cheesy strategy (ex. heimerdinger)
fnatic's out, no yorick. huehuehue.
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United Kingdom50293 Posts
I think we'll see nocturne before the end of worlds, pwny and yorick aren't impossible. Kennen I don't see though
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On September 29 2014 20:28 Sakray wrote:
So apparently I'm a son of a bitch because I don't like FNC.
Legit.
Haha there's just a string of comments on the youtube channel of the OMG vs Fnc games of people wishing OMG gets cancer.
I guess the fans can be a bit ... nevermind I'll show myself out =D
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On September 30 2014 02:44 Fusilero wrote:
I think we'll see nocturne before the end of worlds, pwny and yorick aren't impossible. Kennen I don't see though
The only reason to run Yorick is because you don't have access to lulu/kayle/zilean, all while rumble/ryze/maokai are banned. I seriously doubt we'll see Yorick, but historically he has popped up occasionally in very weird niche comps that never work out.
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The land of freedom23126 Posts
On September 30 2014 02:22 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2014 21:02 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On September 29 2014 17:17 krndandaman wrote:On September 29 2014 16:25 TheYango wrote:On September 29 2014 15:59 wei2coolman wrote:
Gleeb wasn't even regionally relevant, muchless internationally relevant. Now compare lustboy to xpecial. How much change is there really? Lustboy also is a washed-up Korean pro and not on the level of current top Korean supports either. I don't think it's far-fetched to say the gap between Lustboy and Gleeb isn't that different from the gap between Mata and Western supports at this tournament. I personally think that the difference between Lustboy and Gleeb is far greater than Mata and Western supports. Mata is an S-class support for sure but Yellowstar/Lemonnation are good supports that are deserving to be at the top of their region. Meanwhile Gleeb is barely LCS quality. I'm not even sure I'd take him over Kiwikid and that's saying alot. Noone is even close to Mata outside of Heart in this world. Madlife might be good again if he is going to be free'd from Space's prison, his vision control is top notch, not speaking about mechanics, Hachani and Gorilla in good day are close. But only support who was relatively close to Mata is Pooh on his peak. And Gleeb, meh, I guess, he just has that Nien syndrome to be legit in okayish teams but struggle in top-dogs. I was super impressed with Zero when I was watching SHRC play. Especially considering he lanes with UZI without any communication, that's fucking insanity wolf status right there. As good as Imp+Mata lane imo.
Uzi/Zero is probably only botlane in the world outside of Bang/Wolf who can go even or win against imp/Mata.
Zero is best player in Starhorn by far, still getting no hype because UZIUZIUZI.
Even though, Mata is just immense after laning phase + his champion pool is bigger than Zero's.
On September 30 2014 02:44 Fusilero wrote:
I think we'll see nocturne before the end of worlds, pwny and yorick aren't impossible. Kennen I don't see though
Outside of Allen basically noone plays Nocturne, like, what will be reason for C9 to run Nocturne against Blue? Glorious TF by Hai? Poor dade, he will die from laughter.
Watch doesn't play it, neither does DanDy or Clearlove, inSec might bring it out though, if Lee Sin/Rengar are going to be banned.
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On September 30 2014 02:44 Fusilero wrote:
I think we'll see nocturne before the end of worlds, pwny and yorick aren't impossible. Kennen I don't see though
No chance for Anivia anymore either.
I hope we see a Katarina or Leblanc mid before worlds ends. Udyr/Rango/Singed top/jungle would be fun too.
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On September 30 2014 02:53 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2014 02:22 wei2coolman wrote:On September 29 2014 21:02 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On September 29 2014 17:17 krndandaman wrote:On September 29 2014 16:25 TheYango wrote:On September 29 2014 15:59 wei2coolman wrote:
Gleeb wasn't even regionally relevant, muchless internationally relevant. Now compare lustboy to xpecial. How much change is there really? Lustboy also is a washed-up Korean pro and not on the level of current top Korean supports either. I don't think it's far-fetched to say the gap between Lustboy and Gleeb isn't that different from the gap between Mata and Western supports at this tournament. I personally think that the difference between Lustboy and Gleeb is far greater than Mata and Western supports. Mata is an S-class support for sure but Yellowstar/Lemonnation are good supports that are deserving to be at the top of their region. Meanwhile Gleeb is barely LCS quality. I'm not even sure I'd take him over Kiwikid and that's saying alot. Noone is even close to Mata outside of Heart in this world. Madlife might be good again if he is going to be free'd from Space's prison, his vision control is top notch, not speaking about mechanics, Hachani and Gorilla in good day are close. But only support who was relatively close to Mata is Pooh on his peak. And Gleeb, meh, I guess, he just has that Nien syndrome to be legit in okayish teams but struggle in top-dogs. I was super impressed with Zero when I was watching SHRC play. Especially considering he lanes with UZI without any communication, that's fucking insanity wolf status right there. As good as Imp+Mata lane imo. Uzi/Zero is probably only botlane in the world outside of Bang/Wolf who can go even or win against imp/Mata. Zero is best player in Starhorn by far, still getting no hype because UZIUZIUZI. Even though, Mata is just immense after laning phase + his champion pool is bigger than Zero's. Show nested quote +On September 30 2014 02:44 Fusilero wrote:
I think we'll see nocturne before the end of worlds, pwny and yorick aren't impossible. Kennen I don't see though Outside of Allen basically noone plays Nocturne, like, what will be reason for C9 to run Nocturne against Blue? Glorious TF by Hai? Poor dade, he will die from laughter. Watch doesn't play it, neither does DanDy or Clearlove, inSec might bring it out though, if Lee Sin/Rengar are going to be banned.
Spirit plays Noc.
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On September 30 2014 02:56 Doctorbeat wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2014 02:44 Fusilero wrote:
I think we'll see nocturne before the end of worlds, pwny and yorick aren't impossible. Kennen I don't see though No chance for Anivia anymore either. I hope we see a Katarina or Leblanc mid before worlds ends. Udyr/Rango/Singed top/jungle would be fun too.
already saw katarina. SSW played it.
As far as nocturne, can still see it being used with Ori, or Zil combo (or both). It would be a super cheezy level 6 roam squad.
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The land of freedom23126 Posts
On September 30 2014 02:58 orzeu wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2014 02:53 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On September 30 2014 02:22 wei2coolman wrote:On September 29 2014 21:02 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On September 29 2014 17:17 krndandaman wrote:On September 29 2014 16:25 TheYango wrote:On September 29 2014 15:59 wei2coolman wrote:
Gleeb wasn't even regionally relevant, muchless internationally relevant. Now compare lustboy to xpecial. How much change is there really? Lustboy also is a washed-up Korean pro and not on the level of current top Korean supports either. I don't think it's far-fetched to say the gap between Lustboy and Gleeb isn't that different from the gap between Mata and Western supports at this tournament. I personally think that the difference between Lustboy and Gleeb is far greater than Mata and Western supports. Mata is an S-class support for sure but Yellowstar/Lemonnation are good supports that are deserving to be at the top of their region. Meanwhile Gleeb is barely LCS quality. I'm not even sure I'd take him over Kiwikid and that's saying alot. Noone is even close to Mata outside of Heart in this world. Madlife might be good again if he is going to be free'd from Space's prison, his vision control is top notch, not speaking about mechanics, Hachani and Gorilla in good day are close. But only support who was relatively close to Mata is Pooh on his peak. And Gleeb, meh, I guess, he just has that Nien syndrome to be legit in okayish teams but struggle in top-dogs. I was super impressed with Zero when I was watching SHRC play. Especially considering he lanes with UZI without any communication, that's fucking insanity wolf status right there. As good as Imp+Mata lane imo. Uzi/Zero is probably only botlane in the world outside of Bang/Wolf who can go even or win against imp/Mata. Zero is best player in Starhorn by far, still getting no hype because UZIUZIUZI. Even though, Mata is just immense after laning phase + his champion pool is bigger than Zero's. On September 30 2014 02:44 Fusilero wrote:
I think we'll see nocturne before the end of worlds, pwny and yorick aren't impossible. Kennen I don't see though Outside of Allen basically noone plays Nocturne, like, what will be reason for C9 to run Nocturne against Blue? Glorious TF by Hai? Poor dade, he will die from laughter. Watch doesn't play it, neither does DanDy or Clearlove, inSec might bring it out though, if Lee Sin/Rengar are going to be banned. Spirit plays Noc.
But will Spirit go for Nocturne ahead of Kha'Zix, J4 and Rengar, considering that his Lee Sin is banned by default, that's the question.
Allen on the other hand, if no Lee Sin/Evelynn on the table, might just give watch Kha'Zix and go for Nocturne.
#GLORIOUSBRAUMJUNGLEPLEASE.
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We could see poppy played though, especially as a mundo counter.
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Doesn't Yorick shit on Ryze actually?
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Actually the team I suspect of Nocturne the most is C9, for some weird cheese comp or a desparate pick if elise doesn't work.
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A full group stage with no Renekton or Shyvana (or Trundle, to a lesser extent) feels so weird.
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I'm hoping for the glorious return of a TF + nocturne + twitch combo.
Counters split pushing very very hard if TF goes Lichbane first since they can wreck towers. Probably best combined with Lulu top for the immense waveclear from TF+Lulu and the tankiness for noct as he dives.
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United Kingdom50293 Posts
China might play shyvana or jax but it's pretty unlikely, they've mostly moved away from those two.
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surprised we havent seen nasus yet tbh. crushes irelia/mundo/mao pretty much all the popular melee tops. I guess its because ryze is just that good and never banned for whatever reason.
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On September 30 2014 04:24 VayneAuthority wrote:
surprised we havent seen nasus yet tbh. crushes irelia/mundo/mao pretty much all the popular melee tops. I guess its because ryze is just that good and never banned for whatever reason.
Bad lanes aren't really that big of an issue for pros though, mostly because they know how to play around it with laneswaps.
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On September 30 2014 04:35 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2014 04:24 VayneAuthority wrote:
surprised we havent seen nasus yet tbh. crushes irelia/mundo/mao pretty much all the popular melee tops. I guess its because ryze is just that good and never banned for whatever reason. Bad lanes aren't really that big of an issue for pros though, mostly because they know how to play around it with laneswaps.
doesnt really matter, some one has to stop him from pushing all game and you aren't gonna sac a carry to follow him around. 1v2 isnt even that bad for nasus lets him avoid his garbage 1-5. you can afford to lose some stacks to slow down the pace like that.
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