WC Groups Reveal & LCS Relegations - Page 22

On September 10 2014 05:06 Redox wrote:
More Dlift stories. God I so dont give a fk.

On September 10 2014 04:57 Swords wrote:


Watching those teams will suck initially, but imo it's good for growth. People need to give these teams and players time. In pro sports people don't shit on rookies when they first come up to the majors. LCS players deserve a little time to develop too, and playing against the top team in scrims and in season will force those teams to grow quickly or be eliminated next split.

On September 10 2014 05:10 wei2coolman wrote:

Even if you don't like DL, he's easily got the best e-sports storyline out of any players.

On September 10 2014 04:56 AlterKot wrote:

I don't think the size matters that much - look at China, where OMG - top3 team in the region - can't find a decent support (ps. Xpecial knows Mandarin).

Here's my understanding of Challenger Scene. Until recently, EU teams heavily believed in importance of stability of the roster. That means the worst teams would be trash like Giants, Dragonborns or MyM. So if you wanted to play in LCS, you could literally pick one good player, one decent and two shitters (Bjergsen's CW), beat teams that have 0 good players and grats, you can start enjoying your Riot salary. Then Lemondogs basically thought "If we have 5 good players and no shitters, then we're gonna beat everyone" which made everyone realise how important it is to replace bad players with better ones. CW and ROC managed to grab some good enough players to get in LCS, but that was it - by summer, bottom 4 teams became obsessed with roster changes. Couple that with NA snatching some really good players who need replacements, others getting banned/in contract limbo (forgiven) and needing replacements, and suddenly you are in a world were not even all established players are in LCS, anyone who even shows promise almost immediately gets a spot on an LCS team. And even if top2 teams in CS have players on similar level to bot2 teams in LCS (and that's pretty much the best they can get), they didn't spend 3 months playing League 12 hours a day against best teams in the region, while their relegation opponents did. That's why I think it's extremely unlikely that we will ever see new teams in LCS, unless an LCS team straight up disbands Lemondogs style. I guess there could be an upset in the expansion tournament, and then that team could drop next split, but that's it.

Heh spent whole game writing this.

On September 10 2014 05:12 ketchup wrote:
The DL hate is sad. I don't really get why he is such a villain for certain people considering his interviews are fairly modest. He's already admitted multiple times that his trash talking is more for the audience and something he does to build hype/ build his brand.

On September 10 2014 05:14 Slusher wrote:
we thought we were rid of him, but zombie zuna is back!

On September 10 2014 05:12 ketchup wrote:
The DL hate is sad. I don't really get why he is such a villain for certain people considering his interviews are fairly modest. He's already admitted multiple times that his trash talking is more for the audience and something he does to build hype/ build his brand.

On September 10 2014 05:14 Requizen wrote:
RelegationLift the fucking hype is real.

Let's go CrsA! If StVicious gets back into the LCS like this I will renounce TSM and become the high chaplain of Curse.

On September 10 2014 05:12 ketchup wrote:
The DL hate is sad. I don't really get why he is such a villain for certain people considering his interviews are fairly modest. He's already admitted multiple times that his trash talking is more for the audience and something he does to build hype/ build his brand.

On September 10 2014 05:12 MCMilo wrote:
An infrastructure that Riot should employ to foster growth is the current rendition of OGN Champions and NLB (and lower). There are qualifier tournaments into OGN Champions. There are qualifiers to get into NLB. There are tournament SPOTS for teams that lose early in OGN (group stage, qualifiers, bracket stage), INTO NLB and gives the amateur teams that play in NLB more chances to play against teams better than them AT the competitive level, not in scrims. There's a clear disconnect between the LCS and Challenger Series and it shows every time they play out relegations. Riot has to figure this all by themselves because there's no way in hell any other tournament organizer is going to help.