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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
On April 25 2014 00:06 Roffles wrote: Is Santorin any good? Anyone have any idea? From what I've heard fairly good lomoQ jungler, but wasn't sold on him competitively he didn't really impress on the fox sound or intellectual playground and almost felt like he leaned on neegodbro mid (Which is surprisingly decent). Overall, definite downgrade from k0u but not amin --> shacker levels of player change | ||
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Sleight
2471 Posts
On April 24 2014 23:51 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote: You know why did C9 become better? Because TSM and C9 aren't as pathetic as last season and can provide at least some kind of opposition. And it's not because competition got stronger because other 5 teams just became mediocre at best. There is no reason to think that if we have 12 teams in LCS with bo2 format, then suddenly, Curse, Dignitas and, let's say, EG, will be on same level as C9. I didn't even REMOTELY say that. Not even a little. You are being willfully obnoxious, so I am done replying. The fact is, top teams will not stagnate anymore or less if we add teams, but more top level players have teams to get on to and showcase their skill. It can only help the scene to get as many good players into the league as possible. There will be a delayed rise in a new challenger scene, but so many players would love to go pro, more will step up. It is short sighted to think the most popular game in the world has peaked in NA already. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands21959 Posts
On April 25 2014 00:07 Dan HH wrote: Are CLG seriously blaming Reddit for that? What the hell How is he blaming reddit? He says CLG didnt want him to go and that it was probably a mixture of community pressure and personal problems. | ||
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orzeu
Poland5205 Posts
On April 25 2014 00:06 Roffles wrote: Is Santorin any good? Anyone have any idea? He is really good in solo q, but lack experience in competitive. He is against Impaler, so should be ok. | ||
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
On April 25 2014 00:10 orzeu wrote: He is really good in solo q, but lack experience in competitive. He is against Impaler, so should be ok. Impaler might have his 1/50 match where he'll randomly actually play well and dunk the other jungler. Probably not gonna happen during the series though | ||
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oo_Wonderful_oo
The land of freedom23126 Posts
On April 25 2014 00:08 Sleight wrote: I didn't even REMOTELY say that. Not even a little. You are being willfully obnoxious, so I am done replying. The fact is, top teams will not stagnate anymore or less if we add teams, but more top level players have teams to get on to and showcase their skill. It can only help the scene to get as many good players into the league as possible. There will be a delayed rise in a new challenger scene, but so many players would love to go pro, more will step up. It is short sighted to think the most popular game in the world has peaked in NA already. Ye, because of it there are 2,5 toplaners in NA, because the most popular game in the world hasn't peaked. This hype for NA happen every time before any international competition and every season there are same words about delayed rise and how NA will find their glory. On April 25 2014 00:10 orzeu wrote: He is really good in solo q, but lack experience in competitive. He is against Impaler, so should be ok. He was in Fox Sound iirc, so i guess he's not absolute amateur in this case. Impaler has his moments of brilliance, new patch can help him i guess. | ||
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
On April 25 2014 00:07 Dan HH wrote: Are CLG seriously blaming Reddit for that? What the hell It is obvious that community reaction was a very big factor in Nien's resignation. Of course you can argue that it is his fault if he cant deal better with community bs. In any case I think he pretty much threw away his career without good reason. He was bascially trash talking himself in the end when he resigned. | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
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oo_Wonderful_oo
The land of freedom23126 Posts
On April 25 2014 00:17 Slusher wrote: honestly I think the only reason NiP didn't qualify last time is because they seemingly had no idea what heroes were good on that patch, that said, I'm hoping they lose so that CLG can have Zorozero They just got cocky, choosing KMT was ridiculous even before they lost, when there were SHC and even CW. KMT just adapted better to game, seeing that NiP aren't willing to do shit, 1-3-1 pushed, then Nukeduck picked Riven into Kayle, then they just lost to Nidalee. | ||
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On April 25 2014 00:15 Redox wrote: It is obvious that community reaction was a very big factor in Nien's resignation. Of course you can argue that it is his fault if he cant deal better with community bs. In any case I think he pretty much threw away his career without good reason. He was bascially trash talking himself in the end when he resigned. I feel like management of CLG and Nien should also take blame. Nien just isn't a top laner where as he is/was top class in bot and pretty good in mid. He was put into an impossible position that I think would only not turn out like this if CLG were forever mediocre. As soon as CLG started doing well the weakness of Nien just became more and more the focal point. He gambled away his career the minute he decided to go play something he couldn't do for a big team instead of playing something he is incredibly good at in a lesser team. He did the same thing where he left Quantic to join Marn a team that lucked into LCS and had a whole host of problems. Nien might be a nice guy but if you always try take the easy option every time eventually it's going to catch up to you. Honestly the only reason why the CLG members are so upset about Nien I think is because they are still stuck in their mindset of mediocrity. Nien had to go for them to ever contend with C9 let alone contend on a world scale. They are just too used to being a middle of the pack NA team to realize this. Whether Nien quit because of the community or not doesn't change the fact that the decision was the right thing to do. The craziest thing is the minute CLG picked up someone that was actually good in their role they suddenly become a much better team. | ||
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TitusVI
Germany8319 Posts
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oo_Wonderful_oo
The land of freedom23126 Posts
On April 25 2014 00:22 Fusilero wrote: Choosing KMT wasn't a bad idea at the time, SHC looked strong in the promos while KMT felt like they got in because of TCM's quantic level collapse during the round robin. In the games however NiP did play way too cocky playing their usual safe and fairly passive game when they had renektons and rivens vs kayles, vaynes and jaxes. Also hyrqbot's amumu missing near literally everything when running engage heavy comps around the amumu sucks KMT still were basically only team who won something in Challenger scene while Shook and Rekkles were playing for CW who were dominating. Ofc, except Tenerife, but TCM collapsed so fast that it wasn't funny at all. SHC were very one-dimensional team, NiP could easily abuse Haydal, Moopz and Mimer with banning Vi, only jungler which Impaler played back in those days. hyrqbot's Amumu was sick, even TOO's Evelynn against C9 had more pressure. On April 25 2014 00:23 Numy wrote: I feel like management of CLG and Nien should also take blame. Nien just isn't a top laner where as he is/was top class in bot and pretty good in mid. He was put into an impossible position that I think would only not turn out like this if CLG were forever mediocre. As soon as CLG started doing well the weakness of Nien just became more and more the focal point. He gambled away his career the minute he decided to go play something he couldn't do for a big team instead of playing something he is incredibly good at in a lesser team. He did the same thing where he left Quantic to join Marn a team that lucked into LCS and had a whole host of problems. Nien might be a nice guy but if you always try take the easy option every time eventually it's going to catch up to you. Honestly the only reason why the CLG members are so upset about Nien I think is because they are still stuck in their mindset of mediocrity. Nien had to go for them to ever contend with C9 let alone contend on a world scale. They are just too used to being a middle of the pack NA team to realize this. Whether Nien quit because of the community or not doesn't change the fact that the decision was the right thing to do. Doublelift said that Nien was bad/mediocre in laning and they were expected him to become solid next split, but they don't care about it at all, because Nien was hard-working and willing to do everything what team needs because toplane is accessory in current meta and doesn't provide anything (if you're not Shy or Flame ofc). And he's very concerned that they won't find anyone who's as hard-working and ready to do sacrifice everything for team in chasing the dream. On April 25 2014 00:26 TitusVI wrote: clg should just grab an korean. you can work out the communication over the weeks but they are good players so the basics are fine. Monte said that they won't get anyone who doesn't have fluent English. | ||
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LightningStrike
United States14277 Posts
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Don_Julio
2220 Posts
On April 25 2014 00:26 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote: Monte said that they won't get anyone who doesn't have fluent English. He also said that they will look at Korean free agents. | ||
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Argoth.
Germany1961 Posts
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oo_Wonderful_oo
The land of freedom23126 Posts
On April 25 2014 00:40 Don_Julio wrote: He also said that they will look at Korean free agents. Limit and Apple? :D Ohwell. | ||
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Doctorbeat
Netherlands13241 Posts
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
If they pick up apple I will lol CLG.Longpanda tho | ||
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
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