On April 18 2014 04:55 ketchup wrote:
I really dislike when losing teams try for desperation steal attempt.
I really dislike when losing teams try for desperation steal attempt.
you dislike them trying to turn the game around?
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
April 17 2014 19:56 GMT
#1241
On April 18 2014 04:55 ketchup wrote: I really dislike when losing teams try for desperation steal attempt. you dislike them trying to turn the game around? | ||
ketchup
14521 Posts
April 17 2014 19:57 GMT
#1242
On April 18 2014 04:56 wei2coolman wrote: Show nested quote + On April 18 2014 04:55 ketchup wrote: I really dislike when losing teams try for desperation steal attempt. you dislike them trying to turn the game around? I dislike attempting to baron steal when it is a 5v4, and their main damage source has used up his mana by trying to reach from bot lane to baron pit. I dislike their jungler attempting to put down wards while he takes free harass. The baron steal wouldn't have turned the game around even if they got it. I disagree with your assessment of "turning the game around" by far. | ||
wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
April 17 2014 19:58 GMT
#1243
On April 18 2014 04:57 ketchup wrote: Show nested quote + On April 18 2014 04:56 wei2coolman wrote: On April 18 2014 04:55 ketchup wrote: I really dislike when losing teams try for desperation steal attempt. you dislike them trying to turn the game around? I dislike attempting to baron steal when it is a 5v4, and their main damage source has used up his mana by trying to reach from bot lane to baron pit. I dislike their jungler attempting to put down wards while he takes free harass. The baron steal wouldn't have turned the game around even if they got it imo fnatic in big enough of a deficit where they need to try high risk shit like that to try and keep the game in contention. | ||
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JBright
Vancouver14381 Posts
April 17 2014 19:58 GMT
#1244
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ketchup
14521 Posts
April 17 2014 20:01 GMT
#1245
On April 18 2014 04:58 wei2coolman wrote: Show nested quote + On April 18 2014 04:57 ketchup wrote: On April 18 2014 04:56 wei2coolman wrote: On April 18 2014 04:55 ketchup wrote: I really dislike when losing teams try for desperation steal attempt. you dislike them trying to turn the game around? I dislike attempting to baron steal when it is a 5v4, and their main damage source has used up his mana by trying to reach from bot lane to baron pit. I dislike their jungler attempting to put down wards while he takes free harass. The baron steal wouldn't have turned the game around even if they got it imo fnatic in big enough of a deficit where they need to try high risk shit like that to try and keep the game in contention. It was bad because it was a 4v5. It was way too desperate and NO ONE on fnatic was ready to contend it. All of them aside from kha'zix were out of position. So what's the point? Kayle also flashed into the baron pit just to die. It was easy baron, and they helped it even more by giving 2 more kills there. It's desperation that doesn't work the large majority of the times, so why should I like plays like that? | ||
wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
April 17 2014 20:04 GMT
#1246
On April 18 2014 05:01 ketchup wrote: Show nested quote + On April 18 2014 04:58 wei2coolman wrote: On April 18 2014 04:57 ketchup wrote: On April 18 2014 04:56 wei2coolman wrote: On April 18 2014 04:55 ketchup wrote: I really dislike when losing teams try for desperation steal attempt. you dislike them trying to turn the game around? I dislike attempting to baron steal when it is a 5v4, and their main damage source has used up his mana by trying to reach from bot lane to baron pit. I dislike their jungler attempting to put down wards while he takes free harass. The baron steal wouldn't have turned the game around even if they got it imo fnatic in big enough of a deficit where they need to try high risk shit like that to try and keep the game in contention. It was bad because it was a 4v5. It was way too desperate and NO ONE on fnatic was ready to contend it. All of them aside from kha'zix were out of position. So what's the point? Kayle also flashed into the baron pit just to die. It was easy baron, and they helped it even more by giving 2 more kills there. It's desperation that doesn't work the large majority of the times, so why should I like plays like that? because if you just let them have baron you're past the point of no return anyways. it's pretty much, take the 1% chance of it working to even game out, or do nothing and lose. | ||
KissBlade
United States5718 Posts
April 17 2014 20:07 GMT
#1247
On April 18 2014 05:04 wei2coolman wrote: Show nested quote + On April 18 2014 05:01 ketchup wrote: On April 18 2014 04:58 wei2coolman wrote: On April 18 2014 04:57 ketchup wrote: On April 18 2014 04:56 wei2coolman wrote: On April 18 2014 04:55 ketchup wrote: I really dislike when losing teams try for desperation steal attempt. you dislike them trying to turn the game around? I dislike attempting to baron steal when it is a 5v4, and their main damage source has used up his mana by trying to reach from bot lane to baron pit. I dislike their jungler attempting to put down wards while he takes free harass. The baron steal wouldn't have turned the game around even if they got it imo fnatic in big enough of a deficit where they need to try high risk shit like that to try and keep the game in contention. It was bad because it was a 4v5. It was way too desperate and NO ONE on fnatic was ready to contend it. All of them aside from kha'zix were out of position. So what's the point? Kayle also flashed into the baron pit just to die. It was easy baron, and they helped it even more by giving 2 more kills there. It's desperation that doesn't work the large majority of the times, so why should I like plays like that? because if you just let them have baron you're past the point of no return anyways. it's pretty much, take the 1% chance of it working to even game out, or do nothing and lose. That's not true. Fnatic wasn't that far behind. (one good fight away). Giving away the two kills was what really sealed the deal. | ||
wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
April 17 2014 20:12 GMT
#1248
On April 18 2014 05:07 KissBlade wrote: Show nested quote + On April 18 2014 05:04 wei2coolman wrote: On April 18 2014 05:01 ketchup wrote: On April 18 2014 04:58 wei2coolman wrote: On April 18 2014 04:57 ketchup wrote: On April 18 2014 04:56 wei2coolman wrote: On April 18 2014 04:55 ketchup wrote: I really dislike when losing teams try for desperation steal attempt. you dislike them trying to turn the game around? I dislike attempting to baron steal when it is a 5v4, and their main damage source has used up his mana by trying to reach from bot lane to baron pit. I dislike their jungler attempting to put down wards while he takes free harass. The baron steal wouldn't have turned the game around even if they got it imo fnatic in big enough of a deficit where they need to try high risk shit like that to try and keep the game in contention. It was bad because it was a 4v5. It was way too desperate and NO ONE on fnatic was ready to contend it. All of them aside from kha'zix were out of position. So what's the point? Kayle also flashed into the baron pit just to die. It was easy baron, and they helped it even more by giving 2 more kills there. It's desperation that doesn't work the large majority of the times, so why should I like plays like that? because if you just let them have baron you're past the point of no return anyways. it's pretty much, take the 1% chance of it working to even game out, or do nothing and lose. That's not true. Fnatic wasn't that far behind. (one good fight away). Giving away the two kills was what really sealed the deal. i'm not saying that was the case exactly in that situation, but from fnatic's mindset, that was the position they thought they were in. It wasn't a "bad" decision imo. | ||
ManBaker
1943 Posts
April 17 2014 20:17 GMT
#1249
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Swords
6038 Posts
April 17 2014 20:17 GMT
#1250
On one hand you might try to stall a game out if you're up 2-0 to try and really wear the other team down, make them fight for every inch to just win one game. On the other hand you might say "we're up 2-0, let's take a crazy risk, if it pays off it's a killing blow, if it fails we have the next game to work with". I think both decisions are acceptable depending on how they feel about the series overall. | ||
nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
April 17 2014 20:17 GMT
#1251
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ketchup
14521 Posts
April 17 2014 20:19 GMT
#1252
On April 18 2014 05:17 ManBaker wrote: Once again Fnatic with the cancer poke comp That's more of a fault with SK not banning nidalee. It's really odd. I don't know of any team currently who wouldn't first pick nidalee on blue side if they got the chance to. They are prioritizing lee sin and sivir bans instead??? | ||
Swords
6038 Posts
April 17 2014 20:19 GMT
#1253
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Swords
6038 Posts
April 17 2014 20:20 GMT
#1254
On April 18 2014 05:19 ketchup wrote: Show nested quote + On April 18 2014 05:17 ManBaker wrote: Once again Fnatic with the cancer poke comp That's more of a fault with SK not banning nidalee. It's really odd. I don't know of any team currently who wouldn't first pick nidalee on blue side if they got the chance to The problem is if you ban Nidalee as SK you've halved your midlaner's champion pool. | ||
Redox
Germany24794 Posts
April 17 2014 20:20 GMT
#1255
![]() I have never seen him do very good on an assassin type champion, and it only got harder with new exhaust. He should really stick to what he has had succes with in such an important game. | ||
TitusVI
Germany8319 Posts
April 17 2014 20:20 GMT
#1256
On April 18 2014 05:19 Swords wrote: Now now, SK will have a chance if they can build a mothership and vortex the fnatic backline while funneling their cc and fighters into the blackhole as well. protoss op better nerf irela | ||
ketchup
14521 Posts
April 17 2014 20:21 GMT
#1257
On April 18 2014 05:20 Swords wrote: Show nested quote + On April 18 2014 05:19 ketchup wrote: On April 18 2014 05:17 ManBaker wrote: Once again Fnatic with the cancer poke comp That's more of a fault with SK not banning nidalee. It's really odd. I don't know of any team currently who wouldn't first pick nidalee on blue side if they got the chance to The problem is if you ban Nidalee as SK you've halved your midlaner's champion pool. Uh, I don't understand this. SK aren't blue side, there's absolutely no way Fnatic would allow SK to get nidalee. Or it was a joke, and I fail. I think i fail. | ||
skykh
3006 Posts
April 17 2014 20:22 GMT
#1258
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Swords
6038 Posts
April 17 2014 20:23 GMT
#1259
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
April 17 2014 20:23 GMT
#1260
On April 18 2014 05:22 skykh wrote: Fuck this retarded meta, is riot proud with this shit? i thought you said you were going to stop watching? i know nrated likes his sona, but i don't think it's that good. also jesiz wtf ahri again. | ||
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