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-Zoda-
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
France3578 Posts
January 15 2014 19:14 GMT
#1361
This LCS start damn... Everyone's like "EU is mid-centric region, let's all pick fucking Leblanc and carry teams !"
Result is AD carries with sky-high KDAs. Wtf you guys doing...
♪ 最初はi つなぐdo それ つまりlife 常に移動 ♪ - IGN: Uhryks
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
January 15 2014 19:14 GMT
#1362
On January 16 2014 04:11 Redox wrote:
Lacking cohesion and bad calls I can kinda understand for a new team. But what really surprised me how many individual mistakes Froggen made, even missing point blank skill shots. Yesterday his Gragas was already weak, now Leblanc even more. In soloQ he looks better than ever before, I dont get it.


Yeah honestly they seem to lack confindence for some reason. Even nyph yesterday could simply not hit his hooks.
No idea how or why they seem so shacky though.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
January 15 2014 19:15 GMT
#1363
On January 16 2014 04:13 Gorsameth wrote:
People often give Genja shit for his builds but they do kinda work. Yet this wicked build... I really dont get it. There team didnt need more damage. It needed people to tank while there assassins jump in and out. He literally did not need to build a single damage item.

Well the whole idea behind their comp is burst and get resets. So for me building dmg made sense. Of course it doesnt work if you are behind and you cant go in. You can not defend with that team comp.
Off-season = best season
Sprouter
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1724 Posts
January 15 2014 19:15 GMT
#1364
On January 16 2014 04:13 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2014 04:11 Redox wrote:
Lacking cohesion and bad calls I can kinda understand for a new team. But what really surprised me how many individual mistakes Froggen made, even missing point blank skill shots. Yesterday his Gragas was already weak, now Leblanc even more. In soloQ he looks better than ever before, I dont get it.


froggen never was a good player he just played op heroes for the meta and stomped ppl who are worse than him, kind of like aphromoo, and his team happened to decide that sacrificing everything and giving him all the farm is the way to go so he looked good

now he wants to be faker LOL froggen pls
Wowww hahah so many shots
Promises
Profile Joined February 2004
Netherlands1821 Posts
January 15 2014 19:15 GMT
#1365
I have to agree that Froggen looked rather bad out there these past 3 games. Often roamed top while dragon was up, and while he (as usual) farmed well he had some pretty bad positioning and rather horrific skillshots.

That said, I think they still have potential; they just need to get their act together and play the map a lot better, not to mention pick their team a bit more consistently.
I'm a man of my word, and that word is "unreliable".
Mikau
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Netherlands1446 Posts
January 15 2014 19:15 GMT
#1366
On January 16 2014 04:11 Beyonder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2014 04:10 Mensol wrote:
On January 16 2014 04:09 Beyonder wrote:
On January 16 2014 04:08 Pr0wler wrote:
So EG destroyed their own team that was good for 3 years. Now their new team consisting of Froggen and 4 other kinda good players sucks... Go figure !

Still believe though. They just need some time.. for a lot of improvement :D

Just like CLG...

The skill ceiling of the members that are now in NA is much lower though I feel, especially yolopete and snoopy

I'm not so sure. Krepo is going to be the best non-asian support soon I think, if he isn't already.

Yellow and Snoopy are probably average at best but at least the team back then had synergy.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-15 19:17:02
January 15 2014 19:15 GMT
#1367
On January 16 2014 04:13 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2014 04:11 Redox wrote:
Lacking cohesion and bad calls I can kinda understand for a new team. But what really surprised me how many individual mistakes Froggen made, even missing point blank skill shots. Yesterday his Gragas was already weak, now Leblanc even more. In soloQ he looks better than ever before, I dont get it.


froggen never was a good player he just played op heroes for the meta and stomped ppl who are worse than him, kind of like aphromoo, and his team happened to decide that sacrificing everything and giving him all the farm is the way to go so he looked good

now he wants to be faker LOL froggen pls


I don't think it's fair to say he was never a good player. It's just he was never a playmaker or took the initiative. He looked really good when he could just farm a lot while having his team protect him then play out teamfights later.

I think when he started playing lee mid and got it into his brain that he's West faker instead of playing to his strengths also makes him look worse than he is.
loSleb
Profile Joined December 2010
Austria1389 Posts
January 15 2014 19:16 GMT
#1368
On January 16 2014 04:13 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2014 04:11 Redox wrote:
Lacking cohesion and bad calls I can kinda understand for a new team. But what really surprised me how many individual mistakes Froggen made, even missing point blank skill shots. Yesterday his Gragas was already weak, now Leblanc even more. In soloQ he looks better than ever before, I dont get it.


froggen never was a good player he just played op heroes for the meta and stomped ppl who are worse than him

now he wants to be faker LOL froggen pls


When he was the best player or one of the best players what else should he do than stomp worse players?
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
January 15 2014 19:17 GMT
#1369
Inb4 Froggen carries next week and LR will explode in applause with screaming "Froggen, what a God, time to dethrone Faker"

Guys, chill.
Best mid was Ambition, Faker just came close.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
TitusVI
Profile Joined April 2013
Germany8319 Posts
January 15 2014 19:17 GMT
#1370
Maybe alliance needs a good analyst. But not some hobo who was a player and now wants more money. Some analyst like the koreans have.
Science>Mechanics
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-15 19:18:32
January 15 2014 19:17 GMT
#1371
On January 16 2014 04:15 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2014 04:13 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On January 16 2014 04:11 Redox wrote:
Lacking cohesion and bad calls I can kinda understand for a new team. But what really surprised me how many individual mistakes Froggen made, even missing point blank skill shots. Yesterday his Gragas was already weak, now Leblanc even more. In soloQ he looks better than ever before, I dont get it.


froggen never was a good player he just played op heroes for the meta and stomped ppl who are worse than him, kind of like aphromoo, and his team happened to decide that sacrificing everything and giving him all the farm is the way to go so he looked good

now he wants to be faker LOL froggen pls


I don't think it's fair to say he was never a good player. It's just he was never a playmaker or took the initiative. He looked really good when he could just farm a lot while having his team protect him then play out teamfights later.

Of course saying that Froggen is bad is complete nonsense. If literally every single one of Froggen's opponents says he is the best or one of the best, random gold players like most of us here are should just accept that.
Off-season = best season
Sprouter
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1724 Posts
January 15 2014 19:17 GMT
#1372
holy shit that nerd is a giant
Nitan
Profile Joined September 2008
United States3401 Posts
January 15 2014 19:18 GMT
#1373
Uh...as fun as it is to look at the fact that Alliance is 0-3 we can't really change history/ignore what happened in game. Alliance's lanes tended to do okay and the game was pretty close in all three games up to a certain point.

Then Alliance had a variety of awful calls and then collapsed like a Challenger team.

Froggen has been pretty terrible in team fights but during laning he did very well.
Do I contradict myself? Very well, then I contradict myself. I am large, I contain multitudes.
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-15 19:18:24
January 15 2014 19:18 GMT
#1374
MrRallez is so tall lol.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
January 15 2014 19:18 GMT
#1375
On January 16 2014 04:17 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Inb4 Froggen carries next week and LR will explode in applause with screaming "Froggen, what a God, time to dethrone Faker"

Guys, chill.
Best mid was Ambition, Faker just came close.


ambition was good for one season when tf was batshit op and he happened to have the best tf outside of china, his ahri was about on par with the other top mids at the time
TranslatorBaa!
MrMercuG
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands2389 Posts
January 15 2014 19:18 GMT
#1376
Rallez is like twice as tall as Sjokz :o.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
January 15 2014 19:19 GMT
#1377
On January 16 2014 04:18 MrMercuG wrote:
Rallez is like twice as tall as Sjokz :o.


and Sjokz is already pretty tall. That guy's at least 1.95m
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
January 15 2014 19:19 GMT
#1378
On January 16 2014 04:17 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2014 04:15 Numy wrote:
On January 16 2014 04:13 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On January 16 2014 04:11 Redox wrote:
Lacking cohesion and bad calls I can kinda understand for a new team. But what really surprised me how many individual mistakes Froggen made, even missing point blank skill shots. Yesterday his Gragas was already weak, now Leblanc even more. In soloQ he looks better than ever before, I dont get it.


froggen never was a good player he just played op heroes for the meta and stomped ppl who are worse than him, kind of like aphromoo, and his team happened to decide that sacrificing everything and giving him all the farm is the way to go so he looked good

now he wants to be faker LOL froggen pls


I don't think it's fair to say he was never a good player. It's just he was never a playmaker or took the initiative. He looked really good when he could just farm a lot while having his team protect him then play out teamfights later.

Of course saying that Froggen is bad is complete nonsense. If literally every single one of Froggen's opponents says he is the best or one of the best, random gold players like most of us here are should just accept that.


nope i've been tl's #1 froggen hater for over a year ain't gonna stop now
TranslatorBaa!
Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9137 Posts
January 15 2014 19:19 GMT
#1379
Take a drink every time you hear "el classico" in the next hour
MrMercuG
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands2389 Posts
January 15 2014 19:20 GMT
#1380
On January 16 2014 04:19 AsnSensation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2014 04:18 MrMercuG wrote:
Rallez is like twice as tall as Sjokz :o.


and Sjokz is already pretty tall. That guy's at least 1.95m


And he is like 17 isn't he?
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