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oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
January 15 2014 19:10 GMT
#1341
On January 16 2014 04:08 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2014 04:07 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
And i still think that there's something wrong with the game, when champion who wasn't changed basically since beta is top-1 toplaner 4 years later.



That makes no sense. The game has changed a lot so obviously what is strong changes along with it. Also what is wrong with that, do you just want only new heroes to be strong?


To be honest, i don't like game designers who think that there's total need of changing game totally every year.
But it's theme for other discussion.

First time i agree with Quickshot. Ziggs could work way better than LeBlanc this game.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
January 15 2014 19:10 GMT
#1342
On January 16 2014 04:09 nojitosunrise wrote:
There's no cohesion with Alliance. I doubt they can learn that before the first split.


it was painful seeing people getting caught over and over. They layered their teamfight cc worse than Platinum players this game.
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21247 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-15 19:10:50
January 15 2014 19:10 GMT
#1343
can we stop pretending froggen is anything other than a trash tier mid yet? thx

also lol wickd build #basedwickd
TranslatorBaa!
Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9246 Posts
January 15 2014 19:10 GMT
#1344
On January 16 2014 04:08 Pr0wler wrote:
So EG destroyed their own team that was good for 3 years. Now their new team consisting of Froggen and 4 other kinda good players sucks... Go figure !

By 3 years you mean Season 2?
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
January 15 2014 19:10 GMT
#1345
On January 16 2014 04:10 kongoline wrote:
lol its not only wickeds fault, everyone in Alliance sucked that game, even froggen failed

Sooo it's confirmed, yolopete and snoopeh true carries
Glorious SEA doto
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23404 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-15 19:11:42
January 15 2014 19:10 GMT
#1346
On January 16 2014 04:02 Beyonder wrote:
There is simply NO tank on Alliances side.. This wickd build, what the fuck


the wickd build is fine, its just when you have 2 assassins and they bot focus tanks you're not going to win

so what if malphite was more tanky? he used his full combo anyway, what would change? nothing.

I mean he got caught which didnt help but thats nto a build issue
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
January 15 2014 19:11 GMT
#1347
lol this wickd build.


build ad malphite and then all he does is 1 ult and retreat.
Zhiroo
Profile Joined February 2011
Kosovo2724 Posts
January 15 2014 19:11 GMT
#1348
Hey Alliance is a SUPA team!

/i know where the door is don't worry
LoL EuW: Zhiroo - By starting this squabble you've proven nothing but how vast your stupidity is.
Beyonder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands15103 Posts
January 15 2014 19:11 GMT
#1349
On January 16 2014 04:10 Mensol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2014 04:09 Beyonder wrote:
On January 16 2014 04:08 Pr0wler wrote:
So EG destroyed their own team that was good for 3 years. Now their new team consisting of Froggen and 4 other kinda good players sucks... Go figure !

Still believe though. They just need some time.. for a lot of improvement :D

Just like CLG...

The skill ceiling of the members that are now in NA is much lower though I feel, especially yolopete and snoopy
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Swords
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
6038 Posts
January 15 2014 19:11 GMT
#1350
On January 16 2014 04:09 Beyonder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2014 04:08 Pr0wler wrote:
So EG destroyed their own team that was good for 3 years. Now their new team consisting of Froggen and 4 other kinda good players sucks... Go figure !

Still believe though. They just need some time.. for a lot of improvement :D


Yeah, I don't think they're toast just yet. There's a ton of hype surrounding them when they're basically a challenger team in it's first season of LCS.

Still, they look completely lost out there, and Wickd apparently doesn't care at all. That build was so bizarre considering the position Alliance was in for most of that game.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-15 19:12:40
January 15 2014 19:11 GMT
#1351
Lacking cohesion and bad calls I can kinda understand for a new team. But what really surprised me how many individual mistakes Froggen made, even missing point blank skill shots. Yesterday his Gragas was already weak, now Leblanc even more. In soloQ he looks better than ever before, I dont get it.
Off-season = best season
Nitan
Profile Joined September 2008
United States3401 Posts
January 15 2014 19:12 GMT
#1352
Froggen laned pretty well yesterday as Gragas. Past that, not so much.
Do I contradict myself? Very well, then I contradict myself. I am large, I contain multitudes.
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
January 15 2014 19:12 GMT
#1353
On January 16 2014 04:10 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
can we stop pretending froggen is anything other than a trash tier mid yet? thx

also lol wickd build #basedwickd


LOL
You can, why not.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22586 Posts
January 15 2014 19:13 GMT
#1354
People often give Genja shit for his builds but they do kinda work. Yet this wicked build... I really dont get it. There team didnt need more damage. It needed people to tank while there assassins jump in and out. He literally did not need to build a single damage item.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21247 Posts
January 15 2014 19:13 GMT
#1355
On January 16 2014 04:11 Redox wrote:
Lacking cohesion and bad calls I can kinda understand for a new team. But what really surprised me how many individual mistakes Froggen made, even missing point blank skill shots. Yesterday his Gragas was already weak, now Leblanc even more. In soloQ he looks better than ever before, I dont get it.


froggen never was a good player he just played op heroes for the meta and stomped ppl who are worse than him, kind of like aphromoo, and his team happened to decide that sacrificing everything and giving him all the farm is the way to go so he looked good

now he wants to be faker LOL froggen pls
TranslatorBaa!
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-15 19:14:50
January 15 2014 19:14 GMT
#1356
On January 16 2014 04:10 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
can we stop pretending froggen is anything other than a trash tier mid yet? thx

also lol wickd build #basedwickd

I always thought Froggen was good... Thanks for lightened up!

On January 16 2014 04:11 Beyonder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2014 04:10 Mensol wrote:
On January 16 2014 04:09 Beyonder wrote:
On January 16 2014 04:08 Pr0wler wrote:
So EG destroyed their own team that was good for 3 years. Now their new team consisting of Froggen and 4 other kinda good players sucks... Go figure !

Still believe though. They just need some time.. for a lot of improvement :D

Just like CLG...

The skill ceiling of the members that are now in NA is much lower though I feel, especially yolopete and snoopy

Even though yellowpete isnt good farmer, his late game positioning was better than anyone in eu.

And snoopy, aah i dont think he is worse than wickd. im talkin about overall ofc.
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21247 Posts
January 15 2014 19:14 GMT
#1357
On January 16 2014 04:13 Gorsameth wrote:
People often give Genja shit for his builds but they do kinda work. Yet this wicked build... I really dont get it. There team didnt need more damage. It needed people to tank while there assassins jump in and out. He literally did not need to build a single damage item.


naw bro when they kill the assassins and think they're safe, SURPRISE, malphite is also an assassin

best plans, flawless
TranslatorBaa!
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
January 15 2014 19:14 GMT
#1358
On January 16 2014 04:13 Gorsameth wrote:
People often give Genja shit for his builds but they do kinda work. Yet this wicked build... I really dont get it. There team didnt need more damage. It needed people to tank while there assassins jump in and out. He literally did not need to build a single damage item.


Basically, everything worked for him.
Except tear Varus one time.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
January 15 2014 19:14 GMT
#1359
Honestly in my eyes it looks like they just have no real leader and they just do their thing and if they don't snowball early they can't do anything.Also it kinda looks like everyone is choking really hard for some reason.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
January 15 2014 19:14 GMT
#1360
On January 16 2014 04:10 Slayer91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2014 04:02 Beyonder wrote:
There is simply NO tank on Alliances side.. This wickd build, what the fuck


the wickd build is fine, its just when you have 2 assassins and they bot focus tanks you're not going to win

so what if malphite was more tanky? he used his full combo anyway, what would change? nothing.

I mean he got caught which didnt help but thats nto a build issue


not sure if you watched the game, he never actually hit useful stuff with his Ult. mainly mundo vi. He also had to 2x waste flash & 2x waste R jsut to get away because he got caught out and was poked down to 1/2 hp only with the culling, THE CULLING FFS.
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