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Admittedly, this is a huge hypothetical based on a couple of expected outcomes, but...
If TSM beat LD and Gambit beat XDG (as I think most people are assuming), CLG/ATN and Dig/A don't matter to the overall outcome. The winner of the battle would be determined by the winner of C9/Fnatic.
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On December 15 2013 01:36 Amethyst21 wrote:
Betting odds for the SHC vs. SK game
SK -175, SHC +143 (via PinacleSports)
So the oddsmakers believe that SK wins 63% of the time
SHC is hard to judge, the only sample is literally the promo tournament. Even then it's a different supa how crew XD from the first promo (Svenskeren and freddy went to SK and foton left in the previous iteration. Moopz and migxa are the only holdovers from the first one)
However they lost their best player k0u (He's underaged) so I'm sceptical of their odds.
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On December 15 2013 01:36 Amethyst21 wrote:
Betting odds for the SHC vs. SK game
SK -175, SHC +143 (via PinacleSports)
So the oddsmakers believe that SK wins 63% of the time
Actually a line is generally set to get a 50/50 split on bets unless the book wants to take a position on the game. With two teams that will ceteris paribus get even action this is a reflection of their view of the outcome of the game. However, teams with a larger fan base like SK probably get more bets and have a built in negative skew to counter this.
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Bloody hell, first time I've heard impaler's voice. He really is British
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Just for posterity from yesterday....
Poll: Recommend MyM v. CW, Game 4?If you have time (3) 60% Yes (1) 20% No (1) 20% 5 total votes Your vote: Recommend MyM v. CW, Game 4? (Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time
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On December 14 2013 19:43 Lysanias wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2013 10:59 wei2coolman wrote:On December 14 2013 10:31 Redox wrote:On December 14 2013 09:41 wei2coolman wrote:On December 14 2013 09:18 orzeu wrote:On December 14 2013 09:12 onlywonderboy wrote:
Again, Forgiven is a beast. EU keeps this up half of their teams are actually gonna have a good ADC hue. Half? Rekkles, Genja, Tabzz, Creaton, Forgiven, Candy, Freeze are really good. genja and tabzz. Good. lol. I see some people still cant let go of 2012 myths.  Eu has decent adc's genja and tabz just aren't poster boys for um. Yet you would put Candy in there ? Tabzz sure he's been AD 1 season and did decently to soon to call him at the top. But Genja has proven time and time again he is one of the best AD's we have in europe and for sure belongs up there, above maaaany of those mentioned.
If genja is one of the best in EU. That says a lot about eu adc's. Also didn't notice candy meant candpanda. He's mediocre. Imo puszu iconic representative of eu adc's. Makes all the right decision. Plays the game out very intelligently, rarely makes glaring mistakes, but simply outclassed by worldclass adc, just due to mechanics.
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Hahahaha
That was awesome
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On December 15 2013 02:06 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2013 19:43 Lysanias wrote:On December 14 2013 10:59 wei2coolman wrote:On December 14 2013 10:31 Redox wrote:On December 14 2013 09:41 wei2coolman wrote:On December 14 2013 09:18 orzeu wrote:On December 14 2013 09:12 onlywonderboy wrote:
Again, Forgiven is a beast. EU keeps this up half of their teams are actually gonna have a good ADC hue. Half? Rekkles, Genja, Tabzz, Creaton, Forgiven, Candy, Freeze are really good. genja and tabzz. Good. lol. I see some people still cant let go of 2012 myths. Eu has decent adc's genja and tabz just aren't poster boys for um. Yet you would put Candy in there ? Tabzz sure he's been AD 1 season and did decently to soon to call him at the top. But Genja has proven time and time again he is one of the best AD's we have in europe and for sure belongs up there, above maaaany of those mentioned. If genja is one of the best in EU. That says a lot about eu adc's. Also didn't notice candy meant candpanda. He's mediocre. Imo puszu iconic representative of eu adc's. Makes all the right decision. Plays the game out very intelligently, rarely makes glaring mistakes, but simply outclassed by worldclass adc, just due to mechanics.
Did you even watch IEM ? Genja played like a beast
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On December 15 2013 02:10 Lylat wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2013 02:06 wei2coolman wrote:On December 14 2013 19:43 Lysanias wrote:On December 14 2013 10:59 wei2coolman wrote:On December 14 2013 10:31 Redox wrote:On December 14 2013 09:41 wei2coolman wrote:On December 14 2013 09:18 orzeu wrote:On December 14 2013 09:12 onlywonderboy wrote:
Again, Forgiven is a beast. EU keeps this up half of their teams are actually gonna have a good ADC hue. Half? Rekkles, Genja, Tabzz, Creaton, Forgiven, Candy, Freeze are really good. genja and tabzz. Good. lol. I see some people still cant let go of 2012 myths. Eu has decent adc's genja and tabz just aren't poster boys for um. Yet you would put Candy in there ? Tabzz sure he's been AD 1 season and did decently to soon to call him at the top. But Genja has proven time and time again he is one of the best AD's we have in europe and for sure belongs up there, above maaaany of those mentioned. If genja is one of the best in EU. That says a lot about eu adc's. Also didn't notice candy meant candpanda. He's mediocre. Imo puszu iconic representative of eu adc's. Makes all the right decision. Plays the game out very intelligently, rarely makes glaring mistakes, but simply outclassed by worldclass adc, just due to mechanics. Did you even watch IEM ? Genja played like a beast
Gambit played like beasts in a time where almost every team took like a 2 month breaks after worlds. (also edward was back on team, coincidence?)
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Also Gambit at IEM is like a different beast entirely. They always crush at IEM tournaments (see 2-0 Blaze, 2-0 Frost at IEM Katowice)
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On December 15 2013 02:10 Lylat wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2013 02:06 wei2coolman wrote:On December 14 2013 19:43 Lysanias wrote:On December 14 2013 10:59 wei2coolman wrote:On December 14 2013 10:31 Redox wrote:On December 14 2013 09:41 wei2coolman wrote:On December 14 2013 09:18 orzeu wrote:On December 14 2013 09:12 onlywonderboy wrote:
Again, Forgiven is a beast. EU keeps this up half of their teams are actually gonna have a good ADC hue. Half? Rekkles, Genja, Tabzz, Creaton, Forgiven, Candy, Freeze are really good. genja and tabzz. Good. lol. I see some people still cant let go of 2012 myths. Eu has decent adc's genja and tabz just aren't poster boys for um. Yet you would put Candy in there ? Tabzz sure he's been AD 1 season and did decently to soon to call him at the top. But Genja has proven time and time again he is one of the best AD's we have in europe and for sure belongs up there, above maaaany of those mentioned. If genja is one of the best in EU. That says a lot about eu adc's. Also didn't notice candy meant candpanda. He's mediocre. Imo puszu iconic representative of eu adc's. Makes all the right decision. Plays the game out very intelligently, rarely makes glaring mistakes, but simply outclassed by worldclass adc, just due to mechanics. Did you even watch IEM ? Genja played like a beast
Genja is... annoying. At random points he will bust out world class mechanics and then switch back to tear varus. For every match where he goes HAM on ezreal or lucian making the plays he goes triple doran > tear > LW varus.
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Tears ashe. Nevar forget.
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riot nvr streams on azubu tv anymore and youtube?
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On December 15 2013 02:17 justiceknight wrote:
riot nvr streams on azubu tv anymore and youtube?
I'm watching at Azubu right now.
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On December 15 2013 02:15 Fusilero wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2013 02:10 Lylat wrote:On December 15 2013 02:06 wei2coolman wrote:On December 14 2013 19:43 Lysanias wrote:On December 14 2013 10:59 wei2coolman wrote:On December 14 2013 10:31 Redox wrote:On December 14 2013 09:41 wei2coolman wrote:On December 14 2013 09:18 orzeu wrote:On December 14 2013 09:12 onlywonderboy wrote:
Again, Forgiven is a beast. EU keeps this up half of their teams are actually gonna have a good ADC hue. Half? Rekkles, Genja, Tabzz, Creaton, Forgiven, Candy, Freeze are really good. genja and tabzz. Good. lol. I see some people still cant let go of 2012 myths. Eu has decent adc's genja and tabz just aren't poster boys for um. Yet you would put Candy in there ? Tabzz sure he's been AD 1 season and did decently to soon to call him at the top. But Genja has proven time and time again he is one of the best AD's we have in europe and for sure belongs up there, above maaaany of those mentioned. If genja is one of the best in EU. That says a lot about eu adc's. Also didn't notice candy meant candpanda. He's mediocre. Imo puszu iconic representative of eu adc's. Makes all the right decision. Plays the game out very intelligently, rarely makes glaring mistakes, but simply outclassed by worldclass adc, just due to mechanics. Did you even watch IEM ? Genja played like a beast Genja is... annoying. At random points he will bust out world class mechanics and then switch back to tear varus. For every match where he goes HAM on ezreal or lucian making the plays he goes triple doran > tear > LW varus.
Genja is the Jax of pro players. He puts weird restrictions on himself to give other ADCs a fighting chance.
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On December 15 2013 02:15 Fusilero wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2013 02:10 Lylat wrote:On December 15 2013 02:06 wei2coolman wrote:On December 14 2013 19:43 Lysanias wrote:On December 14 2013 10:59 wei2coolman wrote:On December 14 2013 10:31 Redox wrote:On December 14 2013 09:41 wei2coolman wrote:On December 14 2013 09:18 orzeu wrote:On December 14 2013 09:12 onlywonderboy wrote:
Again, Forgiven is a beast. EU keeps this up half of their teams are actually gonna have a good ADC hue. Half? Rekkles, Genja, Tabzz, Creaton, Forgiven, Candy, Freeze are really good. genja and tabzz. Good. lol. I see some people still cant let go of 2012 myths. Eu has decent adc's genja and tabz just aren't poster boys for um. Yet you would put Candy in there ? Tabzz sure he's been AD 1 season and did decently to soon to call him at the top. But Genja has proven time and time again he is one of the best AD's we have in europe and for sure belongs up there, above maaaany of those mentioned. If genja is one of the best in EU. That says a lot about eu adc's. Also didn't notice candy meant candpanda. He's mediocre. Imo puszu iconic representative of eu adc's. Makes all the right decision. Plays the game out very intelligently, rarely makes glaring mistakes, but simply outclassed by worldclass adc, just due to mechanics. Did you even watch IEM ? Genja played like a beast Genja is... annoying. At random points he will bust out world class mechanics and then switch back to tear varus. For every match where he goes HAM on ezreal or lucian making the plays he goes triple doran > tear > LW varus.
Gambit was implying that they'd finally managed to fix him during their interviews at iem, hopefully whatever they did stays.
On December 15 2013 02:17 justiceknight wrote:
riot nvr streams on azubu tv anymore and youtube?
They have links to all the streams at the lolesports.com website.
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lol scarra vs froggen wow cant wait
havent been following the pro scene lately, aliance seems like a pretty good lineup. good game coming up
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On December 15 2013 02:20 BrownBear wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2013 02:15 Fusilero wrote:On December 15 2013 02:10 Lylat wrote:On December 15 2013 02:06 wei2coolman wrote:On December 14 2013 19:43 Lysanias wrote:On December 14 2013 10:59 wei2coolman wrote:On December 14 2013 10:31 Redox wrote:On December 14 2013 09:41 wei2coolman wrote:On December 14 2013 09:18 orzeu wrote:On December 14 2013 09:12 onlywonderboy wrote:
Again, Forgiven is a beast. EU keeps this up half of their teams are actually gonna have a good ADC hue. Half? Rekkles, Genja, Tabzz, Creaton, Forgiven, Candy, Freeze are really good. genja and tabzz. Good. lol. I see some people still cant let go of 2012 myths. Eu has decent adc's genja and tabz just aren't poster boys for um. Yet you would put Candy in there ? Tabzz sure he's been AD 1 season and did decently to soon to call him at the top. But Genja has proven time and time again he is one of the best AD's we have in europe and for sure belongs up there, above maaaany of those mentioned. If genja is one of the best in EU. That says a lot about eu adc's. Also didn't notice candy meant candpanda. He's mediocre. Imo puszu iconic representative of eu adc's. Makes all the right decision. Plays the game out very intelligently, rarely makes glaring mistakes, but simply outclassed by worldclass adc, just due to mechanics. Did you even watch IEM ? Genja played like a beast Genja is... annoying. At random points he will bust out world class mechanics and then switch back to tear varus. For every match where he goes HAM on ezreal or lucian making the plays he goes triple doran > tear > LW varus. Genja is the Jax of pro players. He puts weird restrictions on himself to give other ADCs a fighting chance.
Exactly Serieusly though he carry's when it matters, that's more that can be said about NA's best in DL.
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On December 15 2013 02:20 BrownBear wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2013 02:15 Fusilero wrote:On December 15 2013 02:10 Lylat wrote:On December 15 2013 02:06 wei2coolman wrote:On December 14 2013 19:43 Lysanias wrote:On December 14 2013 10:59 wei2coolman wrote:On December 14 2013 10:31 Redox wrote:On December 14 2013 09:41 wei2coolman wrote:On December 14 2013 09:18 orzeu wrote:On December 14 2013 09:12 onlywonderboy wrote:
Again, Forgiven is a beast. EU keeps this up half of their teams are actually gonna have a good ADC hue. Half? Rekkles, Genja, Tabzz, Creaton, Forgiven, Candy, Freeze are really good. genja and tabzz. Good. lol. I see some people still cant let go of 2012 myths. Eu has decent adc's genja and tabz just aren't poster boys for um. Yet you would put Candy in there ? Tabzz sure he's been AD 1 season and did decently to soon to call him at the top. But Genja has proven time and time again he is one of the best AD's we have in europe and for sure belongs up there, above maaaany of those mentioned. If genja is one of the best in EU. That says a lot about eu adc's. Also didn't notice candy meant candpanda. He's mediocre. Imo puszu iconic representative of eu adc's. Makes all the right decision. Plays the game out very intelligently, rarely makes glaring mistakes, but simply outclassed by worldclass adc, just due to mechanics. Did you even watch IEM ? Genja played like a beast Genja is... annoying. At random points he will bust out world class mechanics and then switch back to tear varus. For every match where he goes HAM on ezreal or lucian making the plays he goes triple doran > tear > LW varus. Genja is the Jax of pro players. He puts weird restrictions on himself to give other ADCs a fighting chance.
Genja once played ADC properly, riot threatened to ban him from league as every match became too one sided.
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