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Two things as public notice: 1. + Show Spoiler [Quarterfinals 1 spoiler] + Congrats to Fnatic, they played superbly and glgl to them in the Semis! No one is saying that Fnatic only won because of the level 1 in Game 3. Please keep the nationalistic statements out of our subforum. 2. Riot's Worlds format is atrocious. Let's not beat a dead horse here. I will certainly be talking to Riot's eSports dept about it in the near future. I simply ask everyone to be civil. Humble in victory, graceful in defeat. Enjoy the games~ -Neo, Sept 23rd, 3:20 PM PDT, page 120 | ||
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
On September 26 2013 05:19 xes wrote: Chinese bot lanes have always been known to be top tier I remember wexaio being the one that figured out the W max ezreal in season two and is one of primary people responsible for trinity. | ||
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Badboyrune
Sweden2247 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On September 26 2013 05:18 Fusilero wrote: Nah the wexaio hypetrain originates back to when World Elite owned China so hard that they were already qualified for worlds in season 2 before anyone thought it was possible, when that IEM where WE beat CLG and dlift spoke incredibly highly of wexaio the hype train pretty much never stopped until now when WE failed to make the playoffs. What are you talking about, Doublelift wasn't even on CLG yet at IEM Guangzhou. I'm pretty sure he didnt even play AD carry yet, lol. | ||
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Alzadar
Canada5009 Posts
Lulu looked really lame, never saw a big Wild Growth. | ||
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iKill[ShocK]
Vietnam3530 Posts
FNC 1 < 3 RYL Feel like RYL has have enough time to figure out Fnatic and they should do ok. | ||
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kainzero
United States5211 Posts
On September 26 2013 06:41 Alzadar wrote: I don't really think Uzi was even that amazing this series except for the super clutch missile dodge in G1 (possibly game winning), G2 it was Lucky impressing me with the sniper Cocoons shutting down Ahri in every teamfight. Lulu looked really lame, never saw a big Wild Growth. Bigpomelo's Wild Growths were actually detrimental to the team, he used them in really poor places that allowed Royal to initiate without repercussions. To be honest I think OMG still looked like the better overall team in these matches, but Royal clutched it out and exposed the weaknesses of OMG perfectly (cool's tendency to get picked off in mid-late game teamfights, san's zuna-esque decision making, bigpomelo's averageness) and outplayed them when it counted. | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
also about uzi, he's always played pretty well. the difference between royal in the past and now is that white is carrying harder and they are making better decisions as a team. they play this dota-inspired 4 protect 1 strat and that means uzi will get farmed every game. when you are the focal point of the team it's easier to get flashy moments of carryness. but he's still an ADC, which isn't the main playmaking position until midgame. | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
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1ntrigue
Australia948 Posts
On September 26 2013 06:07 TheYango wrote: What are you talking about, Doublelift wasn't even on CLG yet at IEM Guangzhou. I'm pretty sure he didnt even play AD carry yet, lol. Yeah, I thought that quote was hilarious. Chauster talked more about Weixiao than Doublelift back when the NA pros first mentioned Weixiao due to their similarities. Weixiao, unfortunately, as good as he is, does not have the initiative on WE to put his team on his back the way Uzi does. They are both amazingly gifted but WE revolves around Misaya as a shotcaller and often the initiator, while Weixiao is a far more passive player than Uzi. Royal just has this amazing understanding that they will always go in and because of their multiple threat styles, Uzi generally has the room to maneuver and carry harder than Weixiao does. | ||
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red_
United States8474 Posts
On September 26 2013 06:41 Alzadar wrote: I don't really think Uzi was even that amazing this series except for the super clutch missile dodge in G1 (possibly game winning), G2 it was Lucky impressing me with the sniper Cocoons shutting down Ahri in every teamfight. Lulu looked really lame, never saw a big Wild Growth. I mean, if immaculate fight positioning and cleanse timing don't impress you, I'm not sure what you're looking for. Also, Godlike is well... a god, as sad as I am that LoveLin can play no more, I am happy that he(and Uzi) get to show more games. | ||
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Dan HH
Romania9246 Posts
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
On September 26 2013 04:00 cLutZ wrote: Froggen was the original faker. They know how to shut down 1 guy. Making the assumption that faker is the only star player on SKT would be a terrible assumption to make and could cost you the game. There haven't been many better players than bengi or impact in their roles this entire tournament. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On September 26 2013 09:29 Itsmedudeman wrote: Making the assumption that faker is the only star player on SKT would be a terrible assumption to make and could cost you the game. There haven't been many better players than bengi or impact in their roles this entire tournament. That is not the point. Also, I think that there is no team less balanced than the old CLG.EU/EG when it comes to having 1 player. | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
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Alzadar
Canada5009 Posts
On September 26 2013 08:12 red_ wrote: I mean, if immaculate fight positioning and cleanse timing don't impress you, I'm not sure what you're looking for. Also, Godlike is well... a god, as sad as I am that LoveLin can play no more, I am happy that he(and Uzi) get to show more games. Re-watch the pivotal G1 fight (at OMG's t2 mid), Uzi actually cleanses absolutely nothing. What actually happens: -Caitlyn plays absolutely standard for the first bit, hitting Lee cause he's the only person in range and Uzi is completely safe. -Lee flashes to safety at low HP, Uzi flashes after him for the kill, losing half his health in the process (he flashed into a rocket and Orb of Deception) -Jax goes HAM as fuck and flash leaps onto Uzi, he -Uzi walks right into an Ahri charm. Luckily Lucky has jumped Ahri and she didn't aim her Q with her E or he would have died right here. -He's charmed for the full duration, but now Corki is on him so he uses Cleanse at 26:15. So he saved himself from 2/5ths of the Ignite damage and nothing else (no CC at all). -He then dodges the Corki missile that would have killed him, which is honestly his only interesting play of this whole fight The Cleanse in this fight was actually terrible. Honestly this fight is all about Jax going HAM and his team not really being on the same page, nothing Uzi did was significant. I have no idea why San used Valkyrie like that either, even if he did kill Caitlyn with the missile, it made no sense, cost him an auto-attack for no gain. On a side-note, does anyone else wish there was a lot more super-slow-motion analysis of teamfights? They've got that cool touchboard thing but they don't really go into that much detail. | ||
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
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Alzadar
Canada5009 Posts
On September 26 2013 10:42 Roffles wrote: Damn Uzi really is a god if he has two flashes. Ah good catch, the jump away from Jax is off screen but obviously it has to be a Net and not a flash. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On September 26 2013 10:32 Alzadar wrote: Re-watch the pivotal G1 fight (at OMG's t2 mid), Uzi actually cleanses absolutely nothing. What actually happens: -Caitlyn plays absolutely standard for the first bit, hitting Lee cause he's the only person in range and Uzi is completely safe. -Lee flashes to safety at low HP, Uzi flashes after him for the kill, losing half his health in the process (he flashed into a rocket and Orb of Deception) -Jax goes HAM as fuck and flash leaps onto Uzi, he -Uzi walks right into an Ahri charm. Luckily Lucky has jumped Ahri and she didn't aim her Q with her E or he would have died right here. -He's charmed for the full duration, but now Corki is on him so he uses Cleanse at 26:15. So he saved himself from 2/5ths of the Ignite damage and nothing else (no CC at all). -He then dodges the Corki missile that would have killed him, which is honestly his only interesting play of this whole fight The Cleanse in this fight was actually terrible. Honestly this fight is all about Jax going HAM and his team not really being on the same page, nothing Uzi did was significant. I have no idea why San used Valkyrie like that either, even if he did kill Caitlyn with the missile, it made no sense, cost him an auto-attack for no gain. On a side-note, does anyone else wish there was a lot more super-slow-motion analysis of teamfights? They've got that cool touchboard thing but they don't really go into that much detail. That fight (maybe the game?) is on San deciding to go for vlad. | ||
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On September 26 2013 10:32 Alzadar wrote: Re-watch the pivotal G1 fight (at OMG's t2 mid), Uzi actually cleanses absolutely nothing. What actually happens: -Caitlyn plays absolutely standard for the first bit, hitting Lee cause he's the only person in range and Uzi is completely safe. -Lee flashes to safety at low HP, Uzi flashes after him for the kill, losing half his health in the process (he flashed into a rocket and Orb of Deception) -Jax goes HAM as fuck and flash leaps onto Uzi, he -Uzi walks right into an Ahri charm. Luckily Lucky has jumped Ahri and she didn't aim her Q with her E or he would have died right here. -He's charmed for the full duration, but now Corki is on him so he uses Cleanse at 26:15. So he saved himself from 2/5ths of the Ignite damage and nothing else (no CC at all). -He then dodges the Corki missile that would have killed him, which is honestly his only interesting play of this whole fight The Cleanse in this fight was actually terrible. Honestly this fight is all about Jax going HAM and his team not really being on the same page, nothing Uzi did was significant. I have no idea why San used Valkyrie like that either, even if he did kill Caitlyn with the missile, it made no sense, cost him an auto-attack for no gain. On a side-note, does anyone else wish there was a lot more super-slow-motion analysis of teamfights? They've got that cool touchboard thing but they don't really go into that much detail. I'll have to check but that Cleanse removes ignite and very likely saved his life. He was pretty darn low after that. I wouldn't call it "terrible" although Uzi's facecheck into Ahri charm was pretty bad. | ||
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kainzero
United States5211 Posts
On September 26 2013 11:46 cLutZ wrote: That fight (maybe the game?) is on San deciding to go for vlad. To some extent cool missing the orb on Cait was pretty significant, but at least cool didn't die. San just blew it. | ||
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