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Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
July 26 2013 00:17 GMT
#721
On July 26 2013 09:16 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2013 09:14 Numy wrote:
On July 26 2013 09:13 Neverhood wrote:
On July 26 2013 09:11 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On July 26 2013 09:10 Neverhood wrote:
On July 26 2013 09:05 Jamial wrote:
On July 26 2013 09:03 Neverhood wrote:
Good play by cop, CLG too in love with passive farming and split pushing so I dunno why they picked gragas. CRS doing such a good job to force fights and catching CLG with their pants down.


Vayne splitting, Gragas waveclear+disengage. Makes perfect sense.

Gragas has decent waveclear but his disengage is so unreliable I wouldn't exactly pick him specifically for that. He's better at roaming and catching people which CLG didn't do.

If they wanted to roam they should've just gone with ahri who's actually pretty strong against Orianna and can pick off twitch/Orianna in team fights. Terrible picks, terrible plays, terrible decision making. Velocity decision making >>>>>> CLG

Yep, gragas feels useless as hell when all you do is sit and farm zzz


Did noone watch Pain vs CNB? Gragas was all over the game doing so much map pressure. It was truly fun since Gragas isn't limited by ultimate cooldown like Ahri to roam he can just keep running around like the fat man he is. Feels like those Brazillian teams might do fine in NA LCS.

Lanephase so long in Brazil. I don't think they could adapt to fast push meta.


Ah that's true. I guess they could just beat CLG then and then try scrape a win somewhere else
Lysteria
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
France2280 Posts
July 26 2013 00:17 GMT
#722
On July 26 2013 09:16 Nitan wrote:
Ahahahahahahaha...Voyboy going "EYYYYYYYYYY!"


Curse battle cry. <3
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
July 26 2013 00:17 GMT
#723
going back to VES v c9 earlier
i was super proud of how well we played the early game. i personally don't believe that picks were a problem. these guys had a comp in mind, understood the enemy comp, and were playing to their own strengths for about... 13 minutes or so. and then they just had a huge derp and made a terrible call to do dragon. unfortunately in their comp, getting behind spells death, at least until varus had time to get very far ahead of ashe. i'm still super pumped that we were able to control the early game against the most smotheringly strong laners in NA. hoping to keep up our strong play from the last 3 games and finish 2-1 this week. playoff hopes are still alive as long as no one in the middle of the pack decides to stay consistent and pull ahead. just need someone to start dropping now (coast/dig/curse i'm looking at you x) )
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
Jamial
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark1289 Posts
July 26 2013 00:17 GMT
#724
On July 26 2013 09:14 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2013 09:11 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On July 26 2013 09:10 Neverhood wrote:
On July 26 2013 09:05 Jamial wrote:
On July 26 2013 09:03 Neverhood wrote:
Good play by cop, CLG too in love with passive farming and split pushing so I dunno why they picked gragas. CRS doing such a good job to force fights and catching CLG with their pants down.


Vayne splitting, Gragas waveclear+disengage. Makes perfect sense.

Gragas has decent waveclear but his disengage is so unreliable I wouldn't exactly pick him specifically for that. He's better at roaming and catching people which CLG didn't do.

If they wanted to roam they should've just gone with ahri who's actually pretty strong against Orianna and can pick off twitch/Orianna in team fights. Terrible picks, terrible plays, terrible decision making. Velocity decision making >>>>>> CLG

Gragas has a lot of roaming capacity; shame it was never used.
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2013 09:13 Jamial wrote:
On July 26 2013 09:11 nojitosunrise wrote:
On July 26 2013 09:10 Nitan wrote:
Being a CLG fan must be suffering huh?

You don't know the half of it.


Explain to me what there is to like about them. - I mean Link/Nien are not too bad, but Doublelift is the most annoyingly arrogant person in the world. Add to that the fact that they only win games via gimmicks/splitpush which is BORING AS SHIT when it's not a backdoor xPeke making sick plays, but rather banking on opponents being indecisive - which won't work against good teams.

I don't understand CLG fans.

Whoa; you talking shit about my doublelift? At least he's got room to talk.
Also; why people think splitpushing is a fucking gimmick? When Koreans do it; it's brilliant; but when CLG does it it's a gimmick? get da fuq outta here.


Because CLG don't do it intelligently. They rely on splitpushing ALONE to win games. Korean teams/Fnatic, and to an extent GG do it more intelligently, and use it as a means to force opponents to do what THEY want them to do. The second CLG can't splitpush, or it's not working as intended, they just don't know what to do. This makes CLG stale and boring.

Doublelift might have some right to be proud about how good he is, but he flames everyone everywhere, and him+his team (it's a teamgame) aren't even top20 in the world, let alone top5 in the US, so really his arrogance is just misplaced.
Flaf?
Neverhood
Profile Joined August 2009
United States5388 Posts
July 26 2013 00:17 GMT
#725
lol wtf voy: "twitch was able to do a number on vayne and come out ahead", did he not watch bot lane for the first 20 mins l0l
Jaedong :D
upperbound
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2300 Posts
July 26 2013 00:17 GMT
#726
Does Voyboy really think that they put a lot of pressure on bot lane?
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
July 26 2013 00:18 GMT
#727
On July 26 2013 09:17 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2013 09:16 wei2coolman wrote:
On July 26 2013 09:14 Numy wrote:
On July 26 2013 09:13 Neverhood wrote:
On July 26 2013 09:11 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On July 26 2013 09:10 Neverhood wrote:
On July 26 2013 09:05 Jamial wrote:
On July 26 2013 09:03 Neverhood wrote:
Good play by cop, CLG too in love with passive farming and split pushing so I dunno why they picked gragas. CRS doing such a good job to force fights and catching CLG with their pants down.


Vayne splitting, Gragas waveclear+disengage. Makes perfect sense.

Gragas has decent waveclear but his disengage is so unreliable I wouldn't exactly pick him specifically for that. He's better at roaming and catching people which CLG didn't do.

If they wanted to roam they should've just gone with ahri who's actually pretty strong against Orianna and can pick off twitch/Orianna in team fights. Terrible picks, terrible plays, terrible decision making. Velocity decision making >>>>>> CLG

Yep, gragas feels useless as hell when all you do is sit and farm zzz


Did noone watch Pain vs CNB? Gragas was all over the game doing so much map pressure. It was truly fun since Gragas isn't limited by ultimate cooldown like Ahri to roam he can just keep running around like the fat man he is. Feels like those Brazillian teams might do fine in NA LCS.

Lanephase so long in Brazil. I don't think they could adapt to fast push meta.


Ah that's true. I guess they could just beat CLG then and then try scrape a win somewhere else

CLG knows how to play fast push; spring split vs TSM; the game they lost (due to massive aphromoo throw) they had perfect lane rotation/lane pushing.
liftlift > tsm
lilwisper
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2515 Posts
July 26 2013 00:20 GMT
#728
On July 26 2013 09:13 Nitan wrote:
Curse played the team fights really well but their decision making was pretty awful. They lost so many free turrets while they ran around unsure whether to push and force a team fight or to recall and defend.


I agree, I count at least 2 times that they could have had mid towers down a lot earlier than when they finally pushed them.
Nitan
Profile Joined September 2008
United States3401 Posts
July 26 2013 00:20 GMT
#729
Voyboy, that was far from a flawless game. That sort of thinking is what got you in the bottom 2 to begin with.
Do I contradict myself? Very well, then I contradict myself. I am large, I contain multitudes.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
July 26 2013 00:20 GMT
#730
On July 26 2013 09:17 Jamial wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2013 09:14 wei2coolman wrote:
On July 26 2013 09:11 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On July 26 2013 09:10 Neverhood wrote:
On July 26 2013 09:05 Jamial wrote:
On July 26 2013 09:03 Neverhood wrote:
Good play by cop, CLG too in love with passive farming and split pushing so I dunno why they picked gragas. CRS doing such a good job to force fights and catching CLG with their pants down.


Vayne splitting, Gragas waveclear+disengage. Makes perfect sense.

Gragas has decent waveclear but his disengage is so unreliable I wouldn't exactly pick him specifically for that. He's better at roaming and catching people which CLG didn't do.

If they wanted to roam they should've just gone with ahri who's actually pretty strong against Orianna and can pick off twitch/Orianna in team fights. Terrible picks, terrible plays, terrible decision making. Velocity decision making >>>>>> CLG

Gragas has a lot of roaming capacity; shame it was never used.
On July 26 2013 09:13 Jamial wrote:
On July 26 2013 09:11 nojitosunrise wrote:
On July 26 2013 09:10 Nitan wrote:
Being a CLG fan must be suffering huh?

You don't know the half of it.


Explain to me what there is to like about them. - I mean Link/Nien are not too bad, but Doublelift is the most annoyingly arrogant person in the world. Add to that the fact that they only win games via gimmicks/splitpush which is BORING AS SHIT when it's not a backdoor xPeke making sick plays, but rather banking on opponents being indecisive - which won't work against good teams.

I don't understand CLG fans.

Whoa; you talking shit about my doublelift? At least he's got room to talk.
Also; why people think splitpushing is a fucking gimmick? When Koreans do it; it's brilliant; but when CLG does it it's a gimmick? get da fuq outta here.


Because CLG don't do it intelligently. They rely on splitpushing ALONE to win games. Korean teams/Fnatic, and to an extent GG do it more intelligently, and use it as a means to force opponents to do what THEY want them to do. The second CLG can't splitpush, or it's not working as intended, they just don't know what to do. This makes CLG stale and boring.

Doublelift might have some right to be proud about how good he is, but he flames everyone everywhere, and him+his team (it's a teamgame) aren't even top20 in the world, let alone top5 in the US, so really his arrogance is just misplaced.

Doublelift rarely flames his own team... I think you just hating on doublelift just to hate on him. It's pretty much an open secret that everyone knows DL only does trash talk as part of his image.
It's no fucking secret NA doesn't execute as well as Korean teams; but that doesn't make their strategy stupid. It was just poorly executed.
liftlift > tsm
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
July 26 2013 00:21 GMT
#731
On July 26 2013 09:17 upperbound wrote:
Does Voyboy really think that they put a lot of pressure on bot lane?


He's probably referring to the Jarvan gank that got Vayne killed and evened up the lane. Wouldn't have been possible with a 1v2.
TheSinisterRed
Profile Joined September 2012
United States1546 Posts
July 26 2013 00:22 GMT
#732
On July 26 2013 09:17 gtrsrs wrote:
going back to VES v c9 earlier
i was super proud of how well we played the early game. i personally don't believe that picks were a problem. these guys had a comp in mind, understood the enemy comp, and were playing to their own strengths for about... 13 minutes or so. and then they just had a huge derp and made a terrible call to do dragon. unfortunately in their comp, getting behind spells death, at least until varus had time to get very far ahead of ashe. i'm still super pumped that we were able to control the early game against the most smotheringly strong laners in NA. hoping to keep up our strong play from the last 3 games and finish 2-1 this week. playoff hopes are still alive as long as no one in the middle of the pack decides to stay consistent and pull ahead. just need someone to start dropping now (coast/dig/curse i'm looking at you x) )

You guys are definitely looking good in the laning phase, against C9 especially is quite the feat. I really hope you can get some help with throws in the Coast/Dig area and make it into the playoffs.
BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
July 26 2013 00:23 GMT
#733
Is it just me or does mancloud look perpetually exhausted? Dude has some huge bags under his eyes.
SUNSFANNED
Volband
Profile Joined March 2011
Hungary6034 Posts
July 26 2013 00:23 GMT
#734
God bless you, Regi.
upperbound
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2300 Posts
July 26 2013 00:24 GMT
#735
Looking forward to some Godwater this game.
Kuja900
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3564 Posts
July 26 2013 00:24 GMT
#736
Zuna looks like a gorilla
OMG you nasty gurl
Koenig99
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada904 Posts
July 26 2013 00:25 GMT
#737
On July 26 2013 09:24 Kuja900 wrote:
Zuna looks like a gorilla


As opposed to Regi?
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
July 26 2013 00:26 GMT
#738
On July 26 2013 09:23 BrownBear wrote:
Is it just me or does mancloud look perpetually exhausted? Dude has some huge bags under his eyes.


i'm under the impression that vulcun as a team have a BIZARRE sleep schedule stemming from watching late-night asian league games as a team and scrimming during the day. i think that all of them are perpetually running on half a tank (which actually makes their performances more impressive imo).
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
July 26 2013 00:28 GMT
#739
Bobby Xpecial "Flays for Days" Flay
lilwisper
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2515 Posts
July 26 2013 00:28 GMT
#740
Such a good Vulcan pick stage. They are too good at this.
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