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lilwisper
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2515 Posts
July 25 2013 23:33 GMT
#561
On July 26 2013 08:32 Numy wrote:
CLG been watching the Brazillians !


Not really, there's no Morde.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
July 25 2013 23:34 GMT
#562
I hope CLG can snowball Link off of that Nyjacky Flash burned. :D
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Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
July 25 2013 23:35 GMT
#563
Never seen Voy play Zac hmmm.
Never Knows Best.
Woony
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany6657 Posts
July 25 2013 23:35 GMT
#564
Faker played Gragas this or last week I think.
Faster69
Profile Joined July 2013
69 Posts
July 25 2013 23:36 GMT
#565
Dlift pooping on Crs botlane as predicted
Keniji
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands2569 Posts
July 25 2013 23:37 GMT
#566
Can anyone explain to me the reason to not smite the first buff when you don't get help to below smite range?
Is it for buff control for the second buff when you might get invaded? Or is it because junglers are too used to not smite the first buff?
nxk
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2291 Posts
July 25 2013 23:39 GMT
#567
On July 26 2013 08:37 Keniji wrote:
Can anyone explain to me the reason to not smite the first buff when you don't get help to below smite range?
Is it for buff control for the second buff when you might get invaded? Or is it because junglers are too used to not smite the first buff?


It is indeed so that you can smite the second buff in case you get invaded.
lilwisper
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2515 Posts
July 25 2013 23:39 GMT
#568
On July 26 2013 08:37 Keniji wrote:
Can anyone explain to me the reason to not smite the first buff when you don't get help to below smite range?
Is it for buff control for the second buff when you might get invaded? Or is it because junglers are too used to not smite the first buff?


The control of the second buff, especially when the wards showed that there was no danger of a quick invade at your first buff.
TheSinisterRed
Profile Joined September 2012
United States1546 Posts
July 25 2013 23:39 GMT
#569
On July 26 2013 08:37 Keniji wrote:
Can anyone explain to me the reason to not smite the first buff when you don't get help to below smite range?
Is it for buff control for the second buff when you might get invaded? Or is it because junglers are too used to not smite the first buff?

It is so they can use it on the second buff and finish it faster for the quick level 3 -> gank, I think, more-so than to guard against an invade.
Faster69
Profile Joined July 2013
69 Posts
July 25 2013 23:40 GMT
#570
How is cop so behind in cs?
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
July 25 2013 23:40 GMT
#571
On July 26 2013 08:39 nxk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2013 08:37 Keniji wrote:
Can anyone explain to me the reason to not smite the first buff when you don't get help to below smite range?
Is it for buff control for the second buff when you might get invaded? Or is it because junglers are too used to not smite the first buff?


It is indeed so that you can smite the second buff in case you get invaded.

To extend on this, you are usually safe at your first buff. At your second buff, you never know if the enemy Jungler has decided to start the same buff as you on his side but decides to invade your second buff.
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lilwisper
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2515 Posts
July 25 2013 23:40 GMT
#572
On July 26 2013 08:39 TheSinisterRed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2013 08:37 Keniji wrote:
Can anyone explain to me the reason to not smite the first buff when you don't get help to below smite range?
Is it for buff control for the second buff when you might get invaded? Or is it because junglers are too used to not smite the first buff?

It is so they can use it on the second buff and finish it faster for the quick level 3 -> gank, I think, more-so than to guard against an invade.


True, especially since it will keep your health high to attempt the gank.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
July 25 2013 23:41 GMT
#573
On July 26 2013 08:40 Faster69 wrote:
How is cop so behind in cs?

Doublelift aura.
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Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
July 25 2013 23:41 GMT
#574
I don't remember the last time I've seen a lane stomped this hard
Neverhood
Profile Joined August 2009
United States5388 Posts
July 25 2013 23:41 GMT
#575
Man crs botlane getting shit on so hard, crs needs to start winning other lanes I think
Jaedong :D
nxk
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2291 Posts
July 25 2013 23:41 GMT
#576
Also, it is more efficient hp-wise to get low on the first buff, use hp pots while running to the second buff and then quickly kill the second buff.
upperbound
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2300 Posts
July 25 2013 23:42 GMT
#577
Why is Crs running the 2v2 lane if they're going to not even stay in lane with offensive summoners? It's not like they even took damage or anything and fell behind like that.
Keniji
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands2569 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-25 23:43:23
July 25 2013 23:42 GMT
#578
On July 26 2013 08:40 lilwisper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2013 08:39 TheSinisterRed wrote:
On July 26 2013 08:37 Keniji wrote:
Can anyone explain to me the reason to not smite the first buff when you don't get help to below smite range?
Is it for buff control for the second buff when you might get invaded? Or is it because junglers are too used to not smite the first buff?

It is so they can use it on the second buff and finish it faster for the quick level 3 -> gank, I think, more-so than to guard against an invade.


True, especially since it will keep your health high to attempt the gank.


Well no, that doesnt make any sense. If you dont get help to below smite range on the first buff, not using smite so you have it for the second buff isn't any faster nor do you have more health.

But yea, buff control makes sense.

edit: well or nvm. didn't thought about health pot duration. that makes sense as well.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-25 23:44:02
July 25 2013 23:42 GMT
#579
Casters are wrong, Edward always maxes W on Nami, it's part of why they are getting rolled in cs
Carrilord has arrived.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
July 25 2013 23:43 GMT
#580
Nautilus can barely get his first buff by himself tho. ;_;
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
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