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ketchup
14521 Posts
On July 26 2013 07:59 xes wrote: This is like a CLG win Except it's no where near as exciting due to what lead up to it. A CLG win would be that ZionSpartan killed either TF or Shen(or both), then died. That way that 4v3 fight at baron started, and somehow CLG won that, and are heading to Coast base to win. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On July 26 2013 08:01 Numy wrote: The comp on a different team would have been fine. It's just not what their strengths are so obviously they played it out poorly. There's no reason to pick a comp that is good if you don't have the ability to execute it Then don't blame the comp: blame execution. | ||
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Nitan
United States3401 Posts
On July 26 2013 08:01 RouaF wrote: Yeah well as a competitive top laner you should probably be better at playing elise than playing riven lol. Elise is just a stronger champ. In this game he just died wayyyy too much and needed zhonya, which he didn't even try to build. Also he didn't win his lane, elise is supposed to shit on shen... To be fair, Shen was given the red over and over again while Vulcun was able to secure global objectives, giving him a bit of a gold advantage. Plus, he just barely, and I mean barely, lost the all in Sid did early on. | ||
NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
On July 26 2013 08:00 wei2coolman wrote: I don't know why everyone is saying the drafting was bad from Coast. I think the comp showed a lot of promise; they just played it out really poorly. That ends up being a bad draft. If you can't utilize the team comp that you picked, what good is it on paper? There were a few picks that Coast made but at no point did I think "oh wow, Coast's comp ended up working for them" | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On July 26 2013 08:02 wei2coolman wrote: Then don't blame the comp: blame execution. I'm blaming them for picking a comp they know doesn't fit them? What exactly do you believe I'm talking about? | ||
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lilwisper
United States2515 Posts
On July 26 2013 08:00 wei2coolman wrote: I don't know why everyone is saying the drafting was bad from Coast. I think the comp showed a lot of promise; they just played it out really poorly. Yeah at first it didn't make sense to me, but then I saw the amount of disengage they had. I think someone just noted that a lot of the Coast disengages that happened that weren't good, were only bad by a pixel thin margin. If they played a hair better the game could have been a win actually. | ||
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Slow Motion
United States6960 Posts
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
On July 26 2013 08:02 wei2coolman wrote: Then don't blame the comp: blame execution. That's just so theoretical. No team should ever build a team comp on what it could do. You build a comp based on your team's execution. Bottom line, it was a bad draft by Coast. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On July 26 2013 08:03 Numy wrote: I'm blaming them for picking a comp they know doesn't fit them? What exactly do you believe I'm talking about? I don't know about "didn't fit them". Most of it came down to Zionspartan not being able to hold a lane against Shen; and dying stupidly in teamfights, when he could have avoided a lot of damage with correct E timing. The only mistake was not engaging often enough in midgame. On July 26 2013 08:05 NeoIllusions wrote: That's just so theoretical. No team should ever build a team comp on what it could do. You build a comp based on your team's execution. Bottom line, it was a bad draft by Coast. Probably just so spoiled by OGN. | ||
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Faster69
69 Posts
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Nitan
United States3401 Posts
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TheSinisterRed
United States1546 Posts
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
On July 26 2013 08:07 TheSinisterRed wrote: Lol, other NA teams are starting to learn, it seems. "We just copy C9" hue Could copy the Koreans more. Just sayin' | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On July 26 2013 08:08 NeoIllusions wrote: hue Could copy the Koreans more. Just sayin' Coast's comp was far more Korean than Vulcuns or C9's. Thinking about it; toplane ryze would've been a better pick for zionspartan. | ||
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lilwisper
United States2515 Posts
On July 26 2013 08:08 wei2coolman wrote: I don't like the Ashe pick; It feels pretty cheezy to me imo. >.< Coast's comp was far more Korean than Vulcuns or C9's. I like how Ashe has been quietly stable over the seasons. There's always that feeling that Ashe can fit. | ||
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
Coast comp hinged on the Elise. Zion can't Elise. Nothing more needs to be said. | ||
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
Ashe getting popular again and absolutely nothing's changed about her. Good times. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On July 26 2013 08:10 NeoIllusions wrote: Ashe cheesy? That's a first. Coast comp hinged on the Elise. Zion can't Elise. Nothing more needs to be said. Pretty much. I feel the nature of Ashe's ulti; is more of "are you dumb enough to get caught by this". On July 26 2013 08:11 NeoIllusions wrote: I still recall Ashe being so popular early in S2 simply because of ECA. Ashe getting popular again and absolutely nothing's changed about her. Good times. Everyone else getting nerfed; then Ashe pops up back in radar. Then ECA gets another nerf; and we stop seeing Ashe for a bit; until everyone else gets nerfed. | ||
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triangle
United States3803 Posts
On July 26 2013 08:11 NeoIllusions wrote: I still recall Ashe being so popular early in S2 simply because of ECA. Ashe getting popular again and absolutely nothing's changed about her. Good times. Well, the boost to attackspeed/lvl was nice. | ||
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Kuja900
United States3564 Posts
On July 26 2013 08:11 NeoIllusions wrote: I still recall Ashe being so popular early in S2 simply because of ECA. Ashe getting popular again and absolutely nothing's changed about her. Good times. They buffed her passive and attack speed, | ||
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