EPT[EU LCS] Week 1 - Page 50
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After assessing all the comments from EU Day 1, we've decided to put a warning in regards to any bashing of commentators and cameraman. If you have nothing constructive to contribute, don't post. You are always welcome to mute the stream. Understand that this is just the beginning and production is a work in progress. Thanks, TL LoL Staff 10.02.13 | ||
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Aando
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
On February 11 2013 05:17 karis wrote: quick question anyone have any idea why BOTRK first on ad kennan? Probably to deal with the health stack on darien and diamond. | ||
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RiceAgainst
United States1849 Posts
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On February 11 2013 05:17 karis wrote: quick question anyone have any idea why BOTRK first on ad kennan? going BotRK makes it easy for Kennen to kite/kill GG's bruisers i guess. Giants didnt really need that much damage out of Jimbz against GG's squishies anyways cause Ryze/OIaf was super fat. | ||
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Anakko
France1934 Posts
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DragoonTT
3398 Posts
On February 11 2013 05:16 Lysanias wrote: Gambit played rather poorly but Gaints made great use of Gambit's mistakes. This pretty much. This is where they fell short against fnatic, where SK fell short against fnatic and where Wolves fell short against EG - they all got their advantages, but failed to exploit the mistakes their opponents made while cutting corners. Giants just took the advantage this time and stomped on GG's toes everytime they could. This replay. You can practically see how Diamond goes OH SHIT and turns around, running towards Baron | ||
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SimulatedAnneal
765 Posts
On February 11 2013 05:17 karis wrote: quick question anyone have any idea why BOTRK first on ad kennan? To do baron quickly with just jungle + support. | ||
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Lylat
France8575 Posts
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
On February 11 2013 05:17 karis wrote: quick question anyone have any idea why BOTRK first on ad kennan? because volibear and Renek were going to stack health. (voli scales off health and we've seen Darien Renek enough to know) | ||
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Baffels
United States1486 Posts
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Sponkz
Denmark4564 Posts
On February 11 2013 05:15 Redox wrote: Meh so much hindsight. You say what you "expect" them to do just after they lost 2 games. Btw if they would not play serious they would try out stuff and not pla ythe same thing as the game before that just worked so well. I say that based on the fact that they hardly ever took any season 2 online tournaments serious, they play like shit when they're behind (which is why they "polished" their strategies versus Blaze/Frost and crushed them immensely hard like the usual M5-snowball we saw through-out season 2) and that this game looked like the usual M5 herp-derp when they don't focus on early-game strategies, getting a lead and then working with that lead to finally win the game. M5/GG is all about winning the early-game and then make a snowball of out their lead, and if they don't, they herp derp like a bunch of low-elo scrubs and lose. | ||
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DragoonTT
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Karis Vas Ryaar
United States4396 Posts
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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
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sob3k
United States7572 Posts
The comp was also exponentially weaker with ezreal instead of MF, you need the AOE and range from MF to kill people. I guess they were hoping to land good trueshots but thats far lower percentage than just pressing R in their direction with MF. Also Alex Ich played terribly early which didn't help. | ||
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DragoonTT
3398 Posts
On February 11 2013 05:22 sob3k wrote: That was just a terrible comp choice from Gambit, the Voli renekton comp relies heavily on the incidental damage that they both produce with their ults, which Giants counterpicked with heavily tanky Ryze Mundo Olaf who dont give a fuck, then stacked enough CC to prevent them from getting to their backline or disengaging The comp was also exponentially weaker with ezreal instead of MF, you need the AOE and range from MF to kill people. I guess they were hoping to land good trueshots but thats far lower percentage than just pressing R in their direction with MF. The fnatic comp was similarly tanky - Wukong, Malphite, Olaf - and their teamcomp had similar CC, especially with triple knockups. Giants just played their lineup far, far better and exploited the holes in GG's play, especially by stopping Diamond from getting his ganks started. | ||
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JonGalt
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
On February 11 2013 05:15 Redox wrote: Meh so much hindsight. You say what you "expect" them to do just after they lost 2 games. Btw if they would not play serious they would try out stuff and not pla ythe same thing as the game before that just worked so well. I am only saying this for the sake of being devil's advocate, but I would argue that them playing a fairly identical comp with similar tactics is an indicator that they are "trying out stuff." If they win or lose with it once, it could be a fluke. But if it won twice today then it would be a viable comp. GG, as all teams do, have a LOT of games to play. I think that they know the big money is in 8-10 months and all we have to do is get 4th in the first half of the season. I think they are good enough to spend a lot of these games experimenting. They probably only need to go 16-12 to keep a top 4 position, and I bet they know it. Just my two cents from the good ole devil's advocate. | ||
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Sausafeg
United Kingdom54 Posts
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Slow Motion
United States6960 Posts
On February 11 2013 05:22 sob3k wrote: That was just a terrible comp choice from Gambit, the Voli renekton comp relies heavily on the incidental damage that they both produce with their ults, which Giants counterpicked with heavily tanky Ryze Mundo Olaf who dont give a fuck, then stacked enough CC to prevent them from getting to their backline or disengaging The comp was also exponentially weaker with ezreal instead of MF, you need the AOE and range from MF to kill people. I guess they were hoping to land good trueshots but thats far lower percentage than just pressing R in their direction with MF. Yeah there are some real problems in GG's thought processes during champ select. So many times they straight up let people like Froggen and Misaya get their signature champs and then get destroyed by those champs. Then they give the enemy team Ryze Olaf Mundo which you basically cannot beat in late game. MF would have been good since they needed to win early and had the AOE, but the problem is the enemy team also got Zyra which is so dangerous in lane if you have no escapes. From what I see GG probably derps harder in champ select than even CLG. | ||
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