@Shake: I agree with Yango the majority of the time but we still have our opposing views from time to time.
@LOLItsRyann: Talking about your post, wasn't a personal attack. Don't get why you spammed in caps.

Me neither, I get extremely frustrated with LoL and the people I play with. Been trying to find a way to unbind my enter key so I can't shout at players anymore -_- fml. Apologies TL. <3

ZERG_RUSSIAN

10417 Posts

January 12 2013 22:01 GMT

#1603

LOL MASHME ELBOW DEEP THERE

ZERG_RUSSIAN

10417 Posts

January 12 2013 22:02 GMT

#1604

HAHAHAHAHA THE GREED KEPT KAT OFF RESETS

Alaric

France45622 Posts

January 12 2013 22:03 GMT

#1605

Wow nice kiting by DnG, I really thought Graves and Noc would die without needing the Requiem. Shen just died by the last tick of ignite for GGU tho.

BlueSpace

Germany2182 Posts

January 12 2013 22:03 GMT

#1606

Vayne ahead of graves... this is bad

DragoonTT

3398 Posts

January 12 2013 22:05 GMT

#1607

Wouldn't Olaf be a prime candidate for a rushed Locket? All stats are pretty good for him, anyway, and a Locket is always nice to have against Kat/Karthus

NeoIllusions

United States37500 Posts

January 12 2013 22:06 GMT

#1608

On January 13 2013 07:05 DragoonTT wrote:
Wouldn't Olaf be a prime candidate for a rushed Locket? All stats are pretty good for him, anyway, and a Locket is always nice to have against Kat/Karthus

Yes

wei2coolman

United States60033 Posts

January 12 2013 22:06 GMT

#1609

bulwark would be best buy imo. especially to deal with all that aoe dmg. that mr aura is super strong.

Jamial

Denmark1289 Posts

January 12 2013 22:06 GMT

#1610

On January 13 2013 06:22 NeoIllusions wrote:

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On January 13 2013 06:19 Jamial wrote:

On January 13 2013 06:16 NeoIllusions wrote:

On January 13 2013 06:13 Jamial wrote:

On January 13 2013 06:10 TheYango wrote:

On January 13 2013 05:56 DragoonTT wrote:

On January 13 2013 05:47 TheYango wrote:

On January 13 2013 05:47 DragoonTT wrote:

On January 13 2013 05:44 Woony wrote:
I hope I don't incite something here but I've never seen any of these teams play, except for curse. How's the level of these tier two NA teams on a international scale? I know CLG/Dig/TSM always have been fairly confident against these teams but maybe things have changed.

CLG on a good day is international tier 2. TSM, Dig, Curse international tier 3. A few weeks ago I'd also have sorted FeaR, MP, C9 and GGU in there, but due to all that roster changing and how the games at the Qualifier went up to now, they wouldn't even make international tier 3 for me.

What international teams do you put in tier 1/2? Because Curse is definitively worse than WE.i-Rocks/now PE, and I would consider them a tier 3 team by international standards.

Tier 1, for me: WE, Azubu Frost, KT B, Azubu Blaze
Tier 2 (pretty wide area of skill): most OGN teams plus SKT T1, M5, ex-CLG.EU, CLG.NA on a good day. I'm not too informed about the Chinese teams - PE, iG, Royal Club could probably fit in here as well
Tier 3: Curse, TSM, Dig, lower tier of OGN teams (GSG, MVP Blue, Team OP in current form etc.), second tier of european teams (MYM, Millenium, perhaps SK and alternate on a good day), possibly SGS and SJ

Not sure about TPA/TPS - both teams have incredible potential. Also, I can't (both from lack of knowledge about new AD carry and as a fan) objetively rate fnatic.

I think you're underrating some of the lower tier Korean teams, but other than that, our difference of opinion only comes from me distributing my tiers a bit wider.

How do you justify CLG (I assume NA) being above tsm/dig/curse? - I don't get it. If you mean ex-clg.eu, sure, but CLG.NA is on equal footing with the rest of top NA teams. They are not above them, not below them (for the moment), but saying they're a full tier above seems like a fanboy statement if anything.

You watch CLG in their games in the past month, it shows that they're ahead of their NA peers. I don't think it's fanboyism here. The main issue is that TSM and dig have under performed in the past 2-3 months. Have they improved since?

Noone knows. Which is why placing CLG above them, with nothing but anecdotal CLG scrim results/whatever else you bring up is stupid. I like TSM/Dig/Curse - I dislike CLG. I still rate CLG even with the rest, based on the latest performances from all teams in what they have played. Yes, TSM/Dig are underperforming, but Curse have been playing better and better. By yango's logic they should be the same tier as CLG.

It's an opinion, don't take it so literally then.
And you're not really using Yango's logic. CLG crushed Crs a bunch of times this month as well.

This is all moot, if you will. It's just some opinions made by TL users. If you don't like CLG, kudos to you. Don't get all mad if some pro-CLG fans think they're better. You think they're on par with the rest of NA. We will see in Feb.

I guess you're right.

Amethyst21

Canada7032 Posts

January 12 2013 22:08 GMT

#1611

Prophet what are you doing bro.

Good fight for DNG tho

Chrispy

Canada5878 Posts

January 12 2013 22:08 GMT

#1612

Wow crazy close fight. Nice plays by DMM to survive there but if he were doublelift he might've been able to ace them at the end there.

Kouda

United States2205 Posts

January 12 2013 22:08 GMT

#1613

Katarina such a nonfactor right now

DragoonTT

3398 Posts

January 12 2013 22:09 GMT

#1614

GGU no focus and no one to protect ZionSpartan from Kassadin. Funny how Vayne wrecked everyone who dared chase her, though

Good dragon call for DNG, they knew the most important ults were still down so GGU wouldn't contest

ZERG_RUSSIAN

10417 Posts

January 12 2013 22:11 GMT

#1615

I love that Jatt just totally nerds out while casting once in a while