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Yes, these games won't be OGN level. Watch how you express yourself when these players make poor plays.

~Neo 11.01.13 13:05PST
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-12 19:58:11
January 12 2013 19:57 GMT
#1421
Wow that Karthus ult and...Malphite has Karthus in front of him but try to ult kog instead and missed both
Terran
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-12 19:58:35
January 12 2013 19:57 GMT
#1422
Great fight by MP. Arthelon and Balls are playing pretty damn well. Good to see that Balls managed to pick up the AD role that fast, I never thought he was that great of a top anyway.

Lol Karth Kog OP against Baron.
- TEAM LIQUID - doctorbeat on LoL
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
January 12 2013 19:57 GMT
#1423
lol hazzards ulti miss was too lulz.
liftlift > tsm
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-12 19:58:29
January 12 2013 19:58 GMT
#1424
Bulwark is also huge because they rely a lot on Ezreal's ult, Elise's combo and Malph's base damage to kill the important targets fast. The 30 MR aura cuts down the MPen builds by more than half (20 reduction, 30 penetration).

Cho is really too squishy for a frontliner though, and Olaf gets destroyed by Arthelon. :/
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-12 19:59:29
January 12 2013 19:58 GMT
#1425
On January 13 2013 04:53 DragoonTT wrote:
Yeah, it's pretty funny how Phreak explained Locket vs. Bulwark for the teams when the items would probably be better for the other.

Locket's actually so much more cost-efficient than Aegis that it's better first regardless.

That said, it's more an issue of teams not prioritizing support items enough to have both quickly. Neither item should be built by the support.
Moderator
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
January 12 2013 19:59 GMT
#1426
On January 13 2013 04:57 Doctorbeat wrote:
Great fight by MP. Arthelon and Balls are playing pretty damn well. Good to see that Balls managed to pick up the AD role that fast, I never thought he was that great of a top anyway.

Lol Karth Kog OP against Baron.

He was an AD main longer than he was a top laner afaik.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
January 12 2013 20:02 GMT
#1427
On January 13 2013 04:58 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2013 04:53 DragoonTT wrote:
Yeah, it's pretty funny how Phreak explained Locket vs. Bulwark for the teams when the items would probably be better for the other.

Locket's actually so much more cost-efficient than Aegis that it's better first regardless.

That said, it's more an issue of teams not prioritizing support items enough to have both quickly. Neither item should be built by the support.


Which items should be built by the support then?

I mean, sightstone is a given. But after that? You have only three items building out of your gp/10 (noone builds Morello or Eleisa). Shard/Twin Shadows/Shurelia are your choices. What would be your choices to build?
- TEAM LIQUID - doctorbeat on LoL
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
January 12 2013 20:02 GMT
#1428
WTF was that from Elise.
The legend of Darien lives on
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-12 20:04:07
January 12 2013 20:03 GMT
#1429
Wow, requiem was used for Arthelon but Ez still lost half his HP (almost).

Randuin's Lulu inc. Wut.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
DragoonTT
Profile Joined April 2012
3398 Posts
January 12 2013 20:03 GMT
#1430
On January 13 2013 04:58 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2013 04:53 DragoonTT wrote:
Yeah, it's pretty funny how Phreak explained Locket vs. Bulwark for the teams when the items would probably be better for the other.

Locket's actually so much more cost-efficient than Aegis that it's better first regardless.

That said, it's more an issue of teams not prioritizing support items enough to have both quickly. Neither item should be built by the support.


I know Locket is better than Aegis in almost any situation, but it was bulwark vs. Locket, and I was only referring to Phreak's explanation which kinda mixed up the teams.
Jamial
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark1289 Posts
January 12 2013 20:05 GMT
#1431
MP just dont have the dmg lol.
Flaf?
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-12 20:07:40
January 12 2013 20:05 GMT
#1432
On January 13 2013 05:02 Doctorbeat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2013 04:58 TheYango wrote:
On January 13 2013 04:53 DragoonTT wrote:
Yeah, it's pretty funny how Phreak explained Locket vs. Bulwark for the teams when the items would probably be better for the other.

Locket's actually so much more cost-efficient than Aegis that it's better first regardless.

That said, it's more an issue of teams not prioritizing support items enough to have both quickly. Neither item should be built by the support.


Which items should be built by the support then?

I mean, sightstone is a given. But after that? You have only three items building out of your gp/10 (noone builds Morello or Eleisa). Shard/Twin Shadows/Shurelia are your choices. What would be your choices to build?

Sorry, I should correct myself. Support should still get Locket, but their Locket shouldn't be the first one. Particularly vs. Karthus a 2nd/3rd locket is necessary.

The biggest issue for me is top laner itemization being so selfish--you basically don't sacrifice survivability getting team items over self-only defensive items.
Moderator
XenOmega
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2822 Posts
January 12 2013 20:05 GMT
#1433
That "comeback"?
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
January 12 2013 20:05 GMT
#1434
Haha, good ol' Zuna screaming. God I love that guy.

Balls really should stop suiciding though.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
January 12 2013 20:06 GMT
#1435
Lulu didn't use Locket during the fight. Oo
I can understand not using it for Requiem as the GA would have been popped anyway, nor after the resurrection since it wouldn't have saved Ezreal, but come on... not even after the Karthus flash in?
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
January 12 2013 20:06 GMT
#1436
Wtf was Ez doing? Got GA and alot of health but run away while Kog turned on him. If Ez just stay since and attack Kog since he was gonna die anyway. MP may have won that team fight.
Terran
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
January 12 2013 20:06 GMT
#1437
YOURBOYSDONE
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
January 12 2013 20:07 GMT
#1438
On January 13 2013 05:05 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2013 05:02 Doctorbeat wrote:
On January 13 2013 04:58 TheYango wrote:
On January 13 2013 04:53 DragoonTT wrote:
Yeah, it's pretty funny how Phreak explained Locket vs. Bulwark for the teams when the items would probably be better for the other.

Locket's actually so much more cost-efficient than Aegis that it's better first regardless.

That said, it's more an issue of teams not prioritizing support items enough to have both quickly. Neither item should be built by the support.


Which items should be built by the support then?

I mean, sightstone is a given. But after that? You have only three items building out of your gp/10 (noone builds Morello or Eleisa). Shard/Twin Shadows/Shurelia are your choices. What would be your choices to build?

Sorry, I should correct myself. Support should still get Locket, but their Locket shouldn't be the first one. Particularly vs. Karthus a 2nd/3rd locket is necessary.


Ah, thanks for the info.

That voicechat was great from FeaR, haha. Zuna going HAM.
- TEAM LIQUID - doctorbeat on LoL
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
January 12 2013 20:07 GMT
#1439
Haha Zuna's scream. They talk a lot less than teams like CLG.eu during teamfight apparently. They were really calm too.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
January 12 2013 20:08 GMT
#1440
Late game Kog too strong, I think FeaR's got this.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
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