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AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
December 02 2012 02:24 GMT
#5261
On December 02 2012 11:18 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
Alright then TL. While we have some downtime on the streams let's have some fun theorycrafting. If you could draft any team composition (and let's assume we have players who can actually play them right), what team comp and strat would you run? Let's go!


Played perfectly, I think that Diana (jungle), Malphite, Orianna, Zyra, Miss Fortune/Graves/Ezreal (probably Ezreal) would be incredible. Always perfect AoE engage, never die.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
December 02 2012 02:24 GMT
#5262
On December 02 2012 11:08 Irave wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2012 11:05 Serpico wrote:
On December 02 2012 11:03 Fusilero wrote:
On December 02 2012 11:02 onlywonderboy wrote:
On December 02 2012 11:01 TheYango wrote:
On December 02 2012 10:59 Fusilero wrote:
On December 02 2012 10:57 Dan HH wrote:
So when is Lulu becoming permabanned against Lustboy, Cain and Madlife?

When is lulu getting permabanned vs Korea.

When Riot adds more bans, or when teams feel they're important enough to ban over other stuff.

I'm hoping for the former rather than the latter.

Rofl riot are so resistant to additional bans they'll never do it.

If you keep adding more champions would it make more sense to add more bans?

Not really, lets be honest, in tournament play the majority of champions aren't ban worthy. Right now at least, 4 feels like it would be too many.

The fact that we're shifting toward a game not about picking/banning OP champs means that a second banning phase would be sensible.

But Riot somehow believes that counter-bans shut down varied teamcomps harder than counter-picks which is flat out not true. You can alter your pick order to suit counter-bans in the second phase, and you can adjust your second-phase bans to prevent counterpicks. But if you get counterpicked, you can't do anything about it once that pick is on the table.
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ZappaSC
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark215 Posts
December 02 2012 02:24 GMT
#5263
On December 02 2012 11:23 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2012 11:18 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
Alright then TL. While we have some downtime on the streams let's have some fun theorycrafting. If you could draft any team composition (and let's assume we have players who can actually play them right), what team comp and strat would you run? Let's go!

5 lee sins


I so wanna have a game mode, where its 5v5 lee sins , or blitzcranks
Koenig99
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada904 Posts
December 02 2012 02:27 GMT
#5264
On December 02 2012 11:18 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
Alright then TL. While we have some downtime on the streams let's have some fun theorycrafting. If you could draft any team composition (and let's assume we have players who can actually play them right), what team comp and strat would you run? Let's go!

Malphite Jungle
Rumble Top
Orianna Mid
Ezreal/Leona Bot

Can switch out Ez or Twitch.
foxmeep
Profile Joined July 2009
Australia2337 Posts
December 02 2012 02:27 GMT
#5265
If 10 Blitzcranks stand in a circle and grab the guy to their left, WHAT HAPPENS?!
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
December 02 2012 02:28 GMT
#5266
LoL mythbusters tried it, on one of their youtube videos.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
December 02 2012 02:28 GMT
#5267
On December 02 2012 11:27 foxmeep wrote:
If 10 Blitzcranks stand in a circle and grab the guy to their left, WHAT HAPPENS?!

A wild amumu appears.
Glorious SEA doto
Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
December 02 2012 02:28 GMT
#5268
On December 02 2012 11:24 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2012 11:08 Irave wrote:
On December 02 2012 11:05 Serpico wrote:
On December 02 2012 11:03 Fusilero wrote:
On December 02 2012 11:02 onlywonderboy wrote:
On December 02 2012 11:01 TheYango wrote:
On December 02 2012 10:59 Fusilero wrote:
On December 02 2012 10:57 Dan HH wrote:
So when is Lulu becoming permabanned against Lustboy, Cain and Madlife?

When is lulu getting permabanned vs Korea.

When Riot adds more bans, or when teams feel they're important enough to ban over other stuff.

I'm hoping for the former rather than the latter.

Rofl riot are so resistant to additional bans they'll never do it.

If you keep adding more champions would it make more sense to add more bans?

Not really, lets be honest, in tournament play the majority of champions aren't ban worthy. Right now at least, 4 feels like it would be too many.

The fact that we're shifting toward a game not about picking/banning OP champs means that a second banning phase would be sensible.

But Riot somehow believes that counter-bans shut down varied teamcomps harder than counter-picks which is flat out not true. You can alter your pick order to suit counter-bans in the second phase, and you can adjust your second-phase bans to prevent counterpicks. But if you get counterpicked, you can't do anything about it once that pick is on the table.

I think a ban system like the one they have for DotA would be interesting. Not sure what impact it would have on pro LoL but it would make team comps more unique than now.
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-02 02:31:19
December 02 2012 02:29 GMT
#5269
AZB picks a dive team vs Zyra/Sona oh boy

excited to see how Flame deals with Renekton
Administrator@TL_Zess
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Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
December 02 2012 02:29 GMT
#5270
Korean lulu, gg no re M5.
Glorious SEA doto
Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
December 02 2012 02:30 GMT
#5271
wild crocodile appears
WriterFollow me @TL_Chexx
Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9161 Posts
December 02 2012 02:31 GMT
#5272
I don't see M5 surviving this comp.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
December 02 2012 02:31 GMT
#5273
On December 02 2012 11:28 Slow Motion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2012 11:24 TheYango wrote:
On December 02 2012 11:08 Irave wrote:
On December 02 2012 11:05 Serpico wrote:
On December 02 2012 11:03 Fusilero wrote:
On December 02 2012 11:02 onlywonderboy wrote:
On December 02 2012 11:01 TheYango wrote:
On December 02 2012 10:59 Fusilero wrote:
On December 02 2012 10:57 Dan HH wrote:
So when is Lulu becoming permabanned against Lustboy, Cain and Madlife?

When is lulu getting permabanned vs Korea.

When Riot adds more bans, or when teams feel they're important enough to ban over other stuff.

I'm hoping for the former rather than the latter.

Rofl riot are so resistant to additional bans they'll never do it.

If you keep adding more champions would it make more sense to add more bans?

Not really, lets be honest, in tournament play the majority of champions aren't ban worthy. Right now at least, 4 feels like it would be too many.

The fact that we're shifting toward a game not about picking/banning OP champs means that a second banning phase would be sensible.

But Riot somehow believes that counter-bans shut down varied teamcomps harder than counter-picks which is flat out not true. You can alter your pick order to suit counter-bans in the second phase, and you can adjust your second-phase bans to prevent counterpicks. But if you get counterpicked, you can't do anything about it once that pick is on the table.

I think a ban system like the one they have for DotA would be interesting. Not sure what impact it would have on pro LoL but it would make team comps more unique than now.

They've pretty much said they feel it's too complicated and will just confuse non-hardcore players. It's less straight forward, but after one explanation it makes sense. I think they are just making excuses zzz.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
December 02 2012 02:32 GMT
#5274
On December 02 2012 11:31 Dan HH wrote:
I don't see M5 surviving this comp.

If Renekton can shut down Irelia hard enough in lane (assuming no swaps) and Zyra on Diana then M5 is in a good spot.

Last time Renek got played vs Irelia, Irelia got pooped on super hard
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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35166 Posts
December 02 2012 02:33 GMT
#5275
On December 02 2012 11:18 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
Alright then TL. While we have some downtime on the streams let's have some fun theorycrafting. If you could draft any team composition (and let's assume we have players who can actually play them right), what team comp and strat would you run? Let's go!

5 Teemos, fungal fortress everywhere, zoom zoom around while they are slow as all hell, and split up enough to global taunt just has them running around in circles chasing hallucinations.
Chrispy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada5878 Posts
December 02 2012 02:33 GMT
#5276
Giant crocodile! Woo.
Retvrn to Forvms
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
December 02 2012 02:33 GMT
#5277
On December 02 2012 11:31 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2012 11:28 Slow Motion wrote:
On December 02 2012 11:24 TheYango wrote:
On December 02 2012 11:08 Irave wrote:
On December 02 2012 11:05 Serpico wrote:
On December 02 2012 11:03 Fusilero wrote:
On December 02 2012 11:02 onlywonderboy wrote:
On December 02 2012 11:01 TheYango wrote:
On December 02 2012 10:59 Fusilero wrote:
On December 02 2012 10:57 Dan HH wrote:
So when is Lulu becoming permabanned against Lustboy, Cain and Madlife?

When is lulu getting permabanned vs Korea.

When Riot adds more bans, or when teams feel they're important enough to ban over other stuff.

I'm hoping for the former rather than the latter.

Rofl riot are so resistant to additional bans they'll never do it.

If you keep adding more champions would it make more sense to add more bans?

Not really, lets be honest, in tournament play the majority of champions aren't ban worthy. Right now at least, 4 feels like it would be too many.

The fact that we're shifting toward a game not about picking/banning OP champs means that a second banning phase would be sensible.

But Riot somehow believes that counter-bans shut down varied teamcomps harder than counter-picks which is flat out not true. You can alter your pick order to suit counter-bans in the second phase, and you can adjust your second-phase bans to prevent counterpicks. But if you get counterpicked, you can't do anything about it once that pick is on the table.

I think a ban system like the one they have for DotA would be interesting. Not sure what impact it would have on pro LoL but it would make team comps more unique than now.

They've pretty much said they feel it's too complicated and will just confuse non-hardcore players. It's less straight forward, but after one explanation it makes sense. I think they are just making excuses zzz.

Well the variety of picked champions is quite good atm, so in that regard Riots strategy seems do be doing ok.
Off-season = best season
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
December 02 2012 02:34 GMT
#5278
Not a fan of Hotrod Corki from Cpt Jack, really like Red Baron Corki!
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
December 02 2012 02:34 GMT
#5279
Meh. Lee+Renek? I don't like that comp. :/
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
1ntrigue
Profile Joined May 2012
Australia948 Posts
December 02 2012 02:34 GMT
#5280
On December 02 2012 11:10 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2012 11:10 GARO wrote:
On December 02 2012 11:09 Navi wrote:
On December 02 2012 10:01 Azarkon wrote:
Well, now we know AZB wasn't losing just because of tilting. This is around their level.


zzzz

Azarkon, the one who champions CIS teams in both League and DotA.

He's the guy that bashes iG literally in every thread in the dota 2 forums right?

He was bashing WE, iG and TPA and previously Korean teams in the LoL forums too iirc. I remember him saying something like WE, iG and TPA being worse than TSM just a month ago.

-__-

Blaze still the strongest team in the tournament along with WE. My prediction of Blaze > TPA in LB finals and a very close WE, Blaze finals still likely imoimo/
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