• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 08:57
CEST 14:57
KST 21:57
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Team Liquid Map Contest #21 - Presented by Monster Energy6uThermal's 2v2 Tour: $15,000 Main Event14Serral wins EWC 202549Tournament Spotlight: FEL Cracow 202510Power Rank - Esports World Cup 202580
Community News
Weekly Cups (Aug 4-10): MaxPax wins a triple6SC2's Safe House 2 - October 18 & 195Weekly Cups (Jul 28-Aug 3): herO doubles up6LiuLi Cup - August 2025 Tournaments5[BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder10
StarCraft 2
General
RSL Revival patreon money discussion thread #1: Maru - Greatest Players of All Time Rogue Talks: "Koreans could dominate again" Weekly Cups (Aug 4-10): MaxPax wins a triple Team Liquid Map Contest #21 - Presented by Monster Energy
Tourneys
RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series Enki Epic Series #5 - TaeJa vs Classic (SC Evo) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament SEL Masters #5 - Korea vs Russia (SC Evo) ByuN vs TaeJa Bo7 SC Evo Showmatch
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 486 Watch the Skies Mutation # 485 Death from Below Mutation # 484 Magnetic Pull Mutation #239 Bad Weather
Brood War
General
New season has just come in ladder StarCraft player reflex TE scores BW General Discussion BSL Polish World Championship 2025 20-21 September BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
KCM 2025 Season 3 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0 [ASL20] Online Qualifiers Day 2
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Mineral Boosting Muta micro map competition
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Total Annihilation Server - TAForever Nintendo Switch Thread Beyond All Reason [MMORPG] Tree of Savior (Successor of Ragnarok)
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
The year 2050 Russo-Ukrainian War Thread The Games Industry And ATVI Bitcoin discussion thread US Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Korean Music Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Gtx660 graphics card replacement Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment" Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Gaming After Dark: Poor Slee…
TrAiDoS
[Girl blog} My fema…
artosisisthebest
Sharpening the Filtration…
frozenclaw
ASL S20 English Commentary…
namkraft
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 618 users

[IPL] IPL5 Discussion - Page 264

Forum Index > LoL Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 262 263 264 265 266 398 Next
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
December 02 2012 02:24 GMT
#5261
On December 02 2012 11:18 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
Alright then TL. While we have some downtime on the streams let's have some fun theorycrafting. If you could draft any team composition (and let's assume we have players who can actually play them right), what team comp and strat would you run? Let's go!


Played perfectly, I think that Diana (jungle), Malphite, Orianna, Zyra, Miss Fortune/Graves/Ezreal (probably Ezreal) would be incredible. Always perfect AoE engage, never die.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
December 02 2012 02:24 GMT
#5262
On December 02 2012 11:08 Irave wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2012 11:05 Serpico wrote:
On December 02 2012 11:03 Fusilero wrote:
On December 02 2012 11:02 onlywonderboy wrote:
On December 02 2012 11:01 TheYango wrote:
On December 02 2012 10:59 Fusilero wrote:
On December 02 2012 10:57 Dan HH wrote:
So when is Lulu becoming permabanned against Lustboy, Cain and Madlife?

When is lulu getting permabanned vs Korea.

When Riot adds more bans, or when teams feel they're important enough to ban over other stuff.

I'm hoping for the former rather than the latter.

Rofl riot are so resistant to additional bans they'll never do it.

If you keep adding more champions would it make more sense to add more bans?

Not really, lets be honest, in tournament play the majority of champions aren't ban worthy. Right now at least, 4 feels like it would be too many.

The fact that we're shifting toward a game not about picking/banning OP champs means that a second banning phase would be sensible.

But Riot somehow believes that counter-bans shut down varied teamcomps harder than counter-picks which is flat out not true. You can alter your pick order to suit counter-bans in the second phase, and you can adjust your second-phase bans to prevent counterpicks. But if you get counterpicked, you can't do anything about it once that pick is on the table.
Moderator
ZappaSC
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark215 Posts
December 02 2012 02:24 GMT
#5263
On December 02 2012 11:23 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2012 11:18 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
Alright then TL. While we have some downtime on the streams let's have some fun theorycrafting. If you could draft any team composition (and let's assume we have players who can actually play them right), what team comp and strat would you run? Let's go!

5 lee sins


I so wanna have a game mode, where its 5v5 lee sins , or blitzcranks
Koenig99
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada904 Posts
December 02 2012 02:27 GMT
#5264
On December 02 2012 11:18 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
Alright then TL. While we have some downtime on the streams let's have some fun theorycrafting. If you could draft any team composition (and let's assume we have players who can actually play them right), what team comp and strat would you run? Let's go!

Malphite Jungle
Rumble Top
Orianna Mid
Ezreal/Leona Bot

Can switch out Ez or Twitch.
foxmeep
Profile Joined July 2009
Australia2333 Posts
December 02 2012 02:27 GMT
#5265
If 10 Blitzcranks stand in a circle and grab the guy to their left, WHAT HAPPENS?!
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
December 02 2012 02:28 GMT
#5266
LoL mythbusters tried it, on one of their youtube videos.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
December 02 2012 02:28 GMT
#5267
On December 02 2012 11:27 foxmeep wrote:
If 10 Blitzcranks stand in a circle and grab the guy to their left, WHAT HAPPENS?!

A wild amumu appears.
Glorious SEA doto
Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
December 02 2012 02:28 GMT
#5268
On December 02 2012 11:24 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2012 11:08 Irave wrote:
On December 02 2012 11:05 Serpico wrote:
On December 02 2012 11:03 Fusilero wrote:
On December 02 2012 11:02 onlywonderboy wrote:
On December 02 2012 11:01 TheYango wrote:
On December 02 2012 10:59 Fusilero wrote:
On December 02 2012 10:57 Dan HH wrote:
So when is Lulu becoming permabanned against Lustboy, Cain and Madlife?

When is lulu getting permabanned vs Korea.

When Riot adds more bans, or when teams feel they're important enough to ban over other stuff.

I'm hoping for the former rather than the latter.

Rofl riot are so resistant to additional bans they'll never do it.

If you keep adding more champions would it make more sense to add more bans?

Not really, lets be honest, in tournament play the majority of champions aren't ban worthy. Right now at least, 4 feels like it would be too many.

The fact that we're shifting toward a game not about picking/banning OP champs means that a second banning phase would be sensible.

But Riot somehow believes that counter-bans shut down varied teamcomps harder than counter-picks which is flat out not true. You can alter your pick order to suit counter-bans in the second phase, and you can adjust your second-phase bans to prevent counterpicks. But if you get counterpicked, you can't do anything about it once that pick is on the table.

I think a ban system like the one they have for DotA would be interesting. Not sure what impact it would have on pro LoL but it would make team comps more unique than now.
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-02 02:31:19
December 02 2012 02:29 GMT
#5269
AZB picks a dive team vs Zyra/Sona oh boy

excited to see how Flame deals with Renekton
Administrator@TL_Zess
| (• ◡•)|八 (❍ᴥ❍ʋ)
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
December 02 2012 02:29 GMT
#5270
Korean lulu, gg no re M5.
Glorious SEA doto
Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
December 02 2012 02:30 GMT
#5271
wild crocodile appears
WriterFollow me @TL_Chexx
Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9122 Posts
December 02 2012 02:31 GMT
#5272
I don't see M5 surviving this comp.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
December 02 2012 02:31 GMT
#5273
On December 02 2012 11:28 Slow Motion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2012 11:24 TheYango wrote:
On December 02 2012 11:08 Irave wrote:
On December 02 2012 11:05 Serpico wrote:
On December 02 2012 11:03 Fusilero wrote:
On December 02 2012 11:02 onlywonderboy wrote:
On December 02 2012 11:01 TheYango wrote:
On December 02 2012 10:59 Fusilero wrote:
On December 02 2012 10:57 Dan HH wrote:
So when is Lulu becoming permabanned against Lustboy, Cain and Madlife?

When is lulu getting permabanned vs Korea.

When Riot adds more bans, or when teams feel they're important enough to ban over other stuff.

I'm hoping for the former rather than the latter.

Rofl riot are so resistant to additional bans they'll never do it.

If you keep adding more champions would it make more sense to add more bans?

Not really, lets be honest, in tournament play the majority of champions aren't ban worthy. Right now at least, 4 feels like it would be too many.

The fact that we're shifting toward a game not about picking/banning OP champs means that a second banning phase would be sensible.

But Riot somehow believes that counter-bans shut down varied teamcomps harder than counter-picks which is flat out not true. You can alter your pick order to suit counter-bans in the second phase, and you can adjust your second-phase bans to prevent counterpicks. But if you get counterpicked, you can't do anything about it once that pick is on the table.

I think a ban system like the one they have for DotA would be interesting. Not sure what impact it would have on pro LoL but it would make team comps more unique than now.

They've pretty much said they feel it's too complicated and will just confuse non-hardcore players. It's less straight forward, but after one explanation it makes sense. I think they are just making excuses zzz.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
December 02 2012 02:32 GMT
#5274
On December 02 2012 11:31 Dan HH wrote:
I don't see M5 surviving this comp.

If Renekton can shut down Irelia hard enough in lane (assuming no swaps) and Zyra on Diana then M5 is in a good spot.

Last time Renek got played vs Irelia, Irelia got pooped on super hard
Administrator@TL_Zess
| (• ◡•)|八 (❍ᴥ❍ʋ)
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35153 Posts
December 02 2012 02:33 GMT
#5275
On December 02 2012 11:18 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
Alright then TL. While we have some downtime on the streams let's have some fun theorycrafting. If you could draft any team composition (and let's assume we have players who can actually play them right), what team comp and strat would you run? Let's go!

5 Teemos, fungal fortress everywhere, zoom zoom around while they are slow as all hell, and split up enough to global taunt just has them running around in circles chasing hallucinations.
Chrispy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada5878 Posts
December 02 2012 02:33 GMT
#5276
Giant crocodile! Woo.
Retvrn to Forvms
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
December 02 2012 02:33 GMT
#5277
On December 02 2012 11:31 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2012 11:28 Slow Motion wrote:
On December 02 2012 11:24 TheYango wrote:
On December 02 2012 11:08 Irave wrote:
On December 02 2012 11:05 Serpico wrote:
On December 02 2012 11:03 Fusilero wrote:
On December 02 2012 11:02 onlywonderboy wrote:
On December 02 2012 11:01 TheYango wrote:
On December 02 2012 10:59 Fusilero wrote:
On December 02 2012 10:57 Dan HH wrote:
So when is Lulu becoming permabanned against Lustboy, Cain and Madlife?

When is lulu getting permabanned vs Korea.

When Riot adds more bans, or when teams feel they're important enough to ban over other stuff.

I'm hoping for the former rather than the latter.

Rofl riot are so resistant to additional bans they'll never do it.

If you keep adding more champions would it make more sense to add more bans?

Not really, lets be honest, in tournament play the majority of champions aren't ban worthy. Right now at least, 4 feels like it would be too many.

The fact that we're shifting toward a game not about picking/banning OP champs means that a second banning phase would be sensible.

But Riot somehow believes that counter-bans shut down varied teamcomps harder than counter-picks which is flat out not true. You can alter your pick order to suit counter-bans in the second phase, and you can adjust your second-phase bans to prevent counterpicks. But if you get counterpicked, you can't do anything about it once that pick is on the table.

I think a ban system like the one they have for DotA would be interesting. Not sure what impact it would have on pro LoL but it would make team comps more unique than now.

They've pretty much said they feel it's too complicated and will just confuse non-hardcore players. It's less straight forward, but after one explanation it makes sense. I think they are just making excuses zzz.

Well the variety of picked champions is quite good atm, so in that regard Riots strategy seems do be doing ok.
Off-season = best season
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
December 02 2012 02:34 GMT
#5278
Not a fan of Hotrod Corki from Cpt Jack, really like Red Baron Corki!
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
December 02 2012 02:34 GMT
#5279
Meh. Lee+Renek? I don't like that comp. :/
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
1ntrigue
Profile Joined May 2012
Australia948 Posts
December 02 2012 02:34 GMT
#5280
On December 02 2012 11:10 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2012 11:10 GARO wrote:
On December 02 2012 11:09 Navi wrote:
On December 02 2012 10:01 Azarkon wrote:
Well, now we know AZB wasn't losing just because of tilting. This is around their level.


zzzz

Azarkon, the one who champions CIS teams in both League and DotA.

He's the guy that bashes iG literally in every thread in the dota 2 forums right?

He was bashing WE, iG and TPA and previously Korean teams in the LoL forums too iirc. I remember him saying something like WE, iG and TPA being worse than TSM just a month ago.

-__-

Blaze still the strongest team in the tournament along with WE. My prediction of Blaze > TPA in LB finals and a very close WE, Blaze finals still likely imoimo/
Prev 1 262 263 264 265 266 398 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
WardiTV Summer Champion…
11:00
Group Stage 1 - Group C
WardiTV752
TKL 204
IndyStarCraft 144
Rex139
Liquipedia
The PondCast
10:00
Episode 58
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Lowko334
Harstem 263
TKL 196
IndyStarCraft 142
Rex 134
SC2_NightMare 13
ProTech2
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 33501
Sea 3083
EffOrt 1634
Bisu 1107
Larva 518
actioN 468
ggaemo 395
Mini 333
Hyun 230
Soma 213
[ Show more ]
Last 211
Soulkey 173
Rush 166
Zeus 151
Mong 145
ZerO 137
Movie 94
PianO 75
Sharp 63
Hyuk 62
Pusan 53
Sea.KH 49
ToSsGirL 48
Aegong 43
Backho 36
[sc1f]eonzerg 35
JYJ33
soO 26
sas.Sziky 22
HiyA 20
JulyZerg 19
zelot 17
ajuk12(nOOB) 16
sorry 12
SilentControl 9
ivOry 7
Hm[arnc] 5
Terrorterran 5
IntoTheRainbow 5
Dota 2
qojqva2356
Gorgc887
XcaliburYe464
League of Legends
febbydoto8
Counter-Strike
zeus792
x6flipin554
markeloff88
edward30
Other Games
gofns14997
FrodaN2580
singsing1818
B2W.Neo1192
DeMusliM420
crisheroes316
XaKoH 132
Fuzer 122
ArmadaUGS76
Happy71
Mew2King64
QueenE18
ZerO(Twitch)14
Organizations
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 1051
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• davetesta21
• iHatsuTV 5
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV345
League of Legends
• Nemesis2030
• Jankos1304
Upcoming Events
Online Event
1h 3m
Replay Cast
11h 3m
LiuLi Cup
22h 3m
Online Event
1d 2h
BSL Team Wars
1d 6h
Team Hawk vs Team Sziky
Online Event
1d 22h
SC Evo League
1d 23h
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
2 days
CSO Contender
2 days
[BSL 2025] Weekly
2 days
[ Show More ]
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
WardiTV Summer Champion…
2 days
SC Evo League
2 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
3 days
BSL Team Wars
3 days
Team Dewalt vs Team Bonyth
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
Sharp vs Ample
Larva vs Stork
Wardi Open
3 days
RotterdaM Event
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Afreeca Starleague
4 days
JyJ vs TY
Bisu vs Speed
WardiTV Summer Champion…
4 days
PiGosaur Monday
5 days
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
Mini vs TBD
Soma vs sSak
WardiTV Summer Champion…
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
The PondCast
6 days
WardiTV Summer Champion…
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

StarCon 2025 Philadelphia
FEL Cracow 2025
CC Div. A S7

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Qualifiers
WardiTV Summer 2025
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
HCC Europe
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025

Upcoming

CSL Season 18: Qualifier 1
ASL Season 20
CSLAN 3
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
LASL Season 20
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
SEL Season 2 Championship
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
CS Asia Championships 2025
Roobet Cup 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.