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Alaric
France45622 Posts
 And they "tried" by having Froggen catch someone who flashed the wall (or died, happened every time) or Snoopeh walk up to them. It certainly didn't help that Krepo wasn't in his best day (his Leona is downright scary) but with Olaf's ult, Cho's range and cc, Anivia's wall and Leona's initiation, it's not something that can be disengaged from (especially with Anivia's wall to completely shut down Acceleration gate, Bear stance and shurelya's). | ||
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daemir
Finland8662 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On November 23 2012 02:12 Alaric wrote: Na, it's CLG EU's play. Every time I see them take 25 minutes to end a team they have a more than commanding lead against, I ask myself "do they lack confidence in their abilities that much that they don't feel capable of ending it now?". They could have dived Acer anytime since around 30 minutes, forced them off the tower, then taken it, but they never even tried. Thats not really always the problem, the question is. Is their lead relatively bigger in the stalled late game, vs their lead early on? Usually it is, but sometimes it diminishes and it bites them in the ass. | ||
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Zergneedsfood
United States10671 Posts
On November 23 2012 02:18 Alaric wrote: Well they have 1h30 for each Bo1, even CLG.eu would have trouble delaying them. And they "tried" by having Froggen catch someone who flashed the wall (or died, happened every time) or Snoopeh walk up to them. It certainly didn't help that Krepo wasn't in his best day (his Leona is downright scary) but with Olaf's ult, Cho's range and cc, Anivia's wall and Leona's initiation, it's not something that can be disengaged from (especially with Anivia's wall to completely shut down Acceleration gate, Bear stance and shurelya's). Snoopeh was pretty inaccurate with his ruptures. Krepo was whiffing ults left and right. Froggen is not going to be frontline because he tanked so many shots even with his warmogs. Olaf didn't have shurelias until after his warmogs/force of nature (and maybe even after randuins) and the other team had a shurelias a lot earlier + acceleration gate. The range on Zyra's snare/root + Acer's poke is enough to dodge all of those things unless they need to defend a tower, and even then they had Zyra's ult to fall back on to give them time to run away. The risks of turret diving that is immense when you consider how easy it is to root a massive chogath, or just plant an ult under the tower and throw all of your team into the air. So clg.eu was trying a lot. They just failed a lot, in part because they weren't necessarily on top of their skill shots, but also because the other team's comp was really really lame. | ||
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misirlou
Portugal3245 Posts
Caught in a landslide | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
If CLG.eu was to play against a team mechanically sound enough to get ahead early on, then react well enough that CLG has to do something immediatly (like forcing fights on objectives rather than the "slowly drive them out" style or their "slow suffocation" when they're ahead), I'm not sure if they would be able to adapt to that. Granted, we don't really get to see those situations occur in CLG.eu's games, but since they don't play that style often it makes me wonder if they wouldn't end up the same as most inferior teams confronted to CLG.na's splitpush teleport comp, where in the lategame CLG.na wins from sheer experience of the situation leading to their opponent making more mistakes that they can exploit. Edit: I'm pretty biaised since I consider Anivia one of the lamest champs in the game so I guess we won't reach an agreement, with me saying that CLG's comp was as lame as Acer's. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
On November 23 2012 02:26 Alaric wrote: I've come to see it as a weakness, compared to, say, Korean teams who, due to their aggressive playstyle, tend to know better the relative strengths of both team at any point, and know both when to close out the game, and how to do it. If CLG.eu was to play against a team mechanically sound enough to get ahead early on, then react well enough that CLG has to do something immediatly (like forcing fights on objectives rather than the "slowly drive them out" style or their "slow suffocation" when they're ahead), I'm not sure if they would be able to adapt to that. Granted, we don't really get to see those situations occur in CLG.eu's games, but since they don't play that style often it makes me wonder if they wouldn't end up the same as most inferior teams confronted to CLG.na's splitpush teleport comp, where in the lategame CLG.na wins from sheer experience of the situation leading to their opponent making more mistakes that they can exploit. Edit: I'm pretty biaised since I consider Anivia one of the lamest champs in the game so I guess we won't reach an agreement, with me saying that CLG's comp was as lame as Acer's. Both team comps equally lame to play against honestly :D. | ||
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Samson1te
Germany140 Posts
So i think they are on their way to adapt to play more different styles then their old usual play like this game. But u could somehow see from their picks, that they would fall back to this in this game. It mostly depends on what Froggen wants to play i think and Anivia just fits pretty perfect in this slow playstyle. | ||
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
On November 23 2012 02:33 Samson1te wrote: Well at MLG and LSC CLG.eu showed a more aggressive early-game style and they got more comfortable with it since S2 Finals. So i think they are on their way to adapt to play more different styles then their old usual play like this game. But u could somehow see from their picks, that they would fall back to this in this game. It mostly depends on what Froggen wants to play i think and Anivia just fits pretty perfect in this slow playstyle. Indeed. At MLG and LSC CLG.eu had in nearly every game they won the worse late game comp than their opponents. This game their slow and tanky style was just the right answer to what Acer was doing. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
I know clg.eu got their xmg laptops for the last dreamhack. | ||
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
On November 23 2012 02:47 AsnSensation wrote: is BYOC just the flashy name of their qualifier or do peopple actually have to bring their own computers? I know clg.eu got their xmg laptops for the last dreamhack. So you kinda answered your own question.  Yes, Dreamhack still is a classic LAN where you bring your own computers. | ||
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kongoline
6318 Posts
On November 23 2012 02:26 Alaric wrote: I've come to see it as a weakness, compared to, say, Korean teams who, due to their aggressive playstyle, tend to know better the relative strengths of both team at any point, and know both when to close out the game, and how to do it. If CLG.eu was to play against a team mechanically sound enough to get ahead early on, then react well enough that CLG has to do something immediatly (like forcing fights on objectives rather than the "slowly drive them out" style or their "slow suffocation" when they're ahead), I'm not sure if they would be able to adapt to that. Granted, we don't really get to see those situations occur in CLG.eu's games, but since they don't play that style often it makes me wonder if they wouldn't end up the same as most inferior teams confronted to CLG.na's splitpush teleport comp, where in the lategame CLG.na wins from sheer experience of the situation leading to their opponent making more mistakes that they can exploit. Edit: I'm pretty biaised since I consider Anivia one of the lamest champs in the game so I guess we won't reach an agreement, with me saying that CLG's comp was as lame as Acer's. lol thought only I hate anivia with her kit, u just cant do much vs her lame stalling potential and the base dmg on skills is just plain stupid | ||
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Dan HH
Romania9173 Posts
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misirlou
Portugal3245 Posts
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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misirlou
Portugal3245 Posts
On November 23 2012 02:58 Alaric wrote: The sound often stops for awhile for me, and is choppy when it's on because of the lag. The volume is also pretty low (I only understood the questions from the hostess during interviews, not a single answer). yeah, its not a volume problem, just goes out for a long long time. image fine though lowering from 720p+ to 720 fixed it | ||
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Kuja900
United States3564 Posts
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misirlou
Portugal3245 Posts
On November 23 2012 03:01 Kuja900 wrote: I see some team forgot why you ban anivia vs clg every once in a while a team doesnt ban it in the hopes that froggen has forgotten how to play it because of all the bans :p | ||
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