[DH] DreamHack Winter 2012 Discussion - Page 6

On November 23 2012 02:12 Alaric wrote:

Na, it's CLG EU's play. Every time I see them take 25 minutes to end a team they have a more than commanding lead against, I ask myself "do they lack confidence in their abilities that much that they don't feel capable of ending it now?".
They could have dived Acer anytime since around 30 minutes, forced them off the tower, then taken it, but they never even tried.

On November 23 2012 02:18 Alaric wrote:
Well they have 1h30 for each Bo1, even CLG.eu would have trouble delaying them.

And they "tried" by having Froggen catch someone who flashed the wall (or died, happened every time) or Snoopeh walk up to them. It certainly didn't help that Krepo wasn't in his best day (his Leona is downright scary) but with Olaf's ult, Cho's range and cc, Anivia's wall and Leona's initiation, it's not something that can be disengaged from (especially with Anivia's wall to completely shut down Acceleration gate, Bear stance and shurelya's).

On November 23 2012 02:15 aRyuujin wrote:


is this just Fantasy?

On November 23 2012 02:26 Alaric wrote:
I've come to see it as a weakness, compared to, say, Korean teams who, due to their aggressive playstyle, tend to know better the relative strengths of both team at any point, and know both when to close out the game, and how to do it.
If CLG.eu was to play against a team mechanically sound enough to get ahead early on, then react well enough that CLG has to do something immediatly (like forcing fights on objectives rather than the "slowly drive them out" style or their "slow suffocation" when they're ahead), I'm not sure if they would be able to adapt to that. Granted, we don't really get to see those situations occur in CLG.eu's games, but since they don't play that style often it makes me wonder if they wouldn't end up the same as most inferior teams confronted to CLG.na's splitpush teleport comp, where in the lategame CLG.na wins from sheer experience of the situation leading to their opponent making more mistakes that they can exploit.


Edit: I'm pretty biaised since I consider Anivia one of the lamest champs in the game so I guess we won't reach an agreement, with me saying that CLG's comp was as lame as Acer's.

On November 23 2012 02:33 Samson1te wrote:
Well at MLG and LSC CLG.eu showed a more aggressive early-game style and they got more comfortable with it since S2 Finals.
So i think they are on their way to adapt to play more different styles then their old usual play like this game. But u could somehow see from their picks, that they would fall back to this in this game. It mostly depends on what Froggen wants to play i think and Anivia just fits pretty perfect in this slow playstyle.

On November 23 2012 02:47 AsnSensation wrote:
is BYOC just the flashy name of their qualifier or do peopple actually have to bring their own computers?
I know clg.eu got their xmg laptops for the last dreamhack.

On November 23 2012 02:26 Alaric wrote:
I've come to see it as a weakness, compared to, say, Korean teams who, due to their aggressive playstyle, tend to know better the relative strengths of both team at any point, and know both when to close out the game, and how to do it.
If CLG.eu was to play against a team mechanically sound enough to get ahead early on, then react well enough that CLG has to do something immediatly (like forcing fights on objectives rather than the "slowly drive them out" style or their "slow suffocation" when they're ahead), I'm not sure if they would be able to adapt to that. Granted, we don't really get to see those situations occur in CLG.eu's games, but since they don't play that style often it makes me wonder if they wouldn't end up the same as most inferior teams confronted to CLG.na's splitpush teleport comp, where in the lategame CLG.na wins from sheer experience of the situation leading to their opponent making more mistakes that they can exploit.


Edit: I'm pretty biaised since I consider Anivia one of the lamest champs in the game so I guess we won't reach an agreement, with me saying that CLG's comp was as lame as Acer's.

On November 23 2012 02:58 Alaric wrote:
The sound often stops for awhile for me, and is choppy when it's on because of the lag. The volume is also pretty low (I only understood the questions from the hostess during interviews, not a single answer).

On November 23 2012 03:01 Kuja900 wrote:
I see some team forgot why you ban anivia vs clg