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Vancouver14381 Posts
16:00 GMT (+00:00) – BYOC Qualification: Round Of 64
17:30 GMT (+00:00) – BYOC Qualification: Round Of 32
18:30 GMT (+00:00) – BYOC Qualification: Round Of 16
19:30 GMT (+00:00) – BYOC Qualification: Round Of 8
20:30 GMT (+00:00) – BYOC Qualification: Round Of 4
BYOC Top 2
+ Show Spoiler +Sju Sjösjuka Sjömän
Copenhagen Wolves
Group A:
+ Show Spoiler +1. Counter Logic Gaming.EU
2. Ozone GIANTS
3. Team Acer
4. Sju Sjösjuka Sjömän
Group B:
+ Show Spoiler +1. Curse.EU Gaming
2. Fnatic.RaidCall
3. The Mighty Midgets (former. TrudniejJuzNieBedzie)
4. Copenhagen Wolves
14:30 GMT (+00:00) - Group A - 1
+ Show Spoiler [Bans and Picks] +CLG.eu vs. GIANTS
Bans:
Rengar Anivia
Cho'Gath Irelia
Kassadin Lee Sin
Picks:
Blitzcrank Amumu / Ezreal
Maokai / Corki Lulu / Olaf
Shen / Lux Orianna
16:00 GMT (+00:00) - Group A - 2
+ Show Spoiler [Bans and Picks] +CLG.eu vs. Acer
Bans:
Nunu Blitzcrank
Gragas Lee Sin
Xin Zhao Irelia
Picks:
Ezreal Zyra / Jayce
Leona / Olaf Graves / Udyr
Anivia / Cho'Gath Lux
17:30 GMT (+00:00) - Group A - 3
+ Show Spoiler [Bans and Picks] +GIANTS vs. Acer
Bans:
Xin Zhao Kassadin
Irelia Twisted Fate
Gragas Olaf
Picks:
Nunu Taric / Ezreal
Vayne / Shen Skarner / Jax
Cho'Gath / Anivia Karthus
19:00 GMT (+00:00) - Group B - 1
+ Show Spoiler [Bans and Picks] +Curse.eu vs. Fnatic
Bans:
Lee Sin Jax
Olaf Sona
Zyra Diana
Picks:
Xin Zhao Orianna / Jayce
Lulu / Corki Cho'Gath / Vayne
Shen / Evelynn Blitzcrank
20:30 GMT (+00:00) - Group B - 2
+ Show Spoiler [Bans and Picks] +Curse.eu vs. Midgets
Bans:
Lee Sin Jax
Olaf Diana
Zyra Katarina
Picks:
Xin Zhao Orianna / Lulu
Cho'Gath / Ezreal Irelia / Rengar
Lux / Sona Corki
22:00 GMT (+00:00) - Group B - 3
+ Show Spoiler [Bans and Picks] +Fnatic vs. Midgets
Bans:
Jax Orianna
Rengar Cho'Gath
Ezreal Katarina
Picks:
Zyra Lee Sin / Diana
Xin Zhao / Vayne Lulu / Ashe
Malphite / Blitzcrank Shen
Results
+ Show Spoiler +Group A + Show Spoiler +CLG.eu - GIANTS
CLG.eu - Acer
Acer - GIANTS
Standings
CLG.eu 2-0
Acer 1-1
GIANTS 0-2
BYOC 0-0 Group B + Show Spoiler +Curse - Fnatic
Curse - Midgets
Fnatic - Midgets
Standings
Fnatic 1-0
Curse 1-1
Midgets 0-1
BYOC 0-0
Friday, Nov 23 9:30am GMT (GMT+00:00)
09:30 GMT (+00:00) - Group A - 4
09:30 GMT (+00:00) - Group B - 4
11:00 GMT (+00:00) - Group A - 5
11:00 GMT (+00:00) - Group B - 5
12:30 GMT (+00:00) - Group A - 6
12:30 GMT (+00:00) - Group B - 6
14:30 GMT (+00:00) - Semifinals #1
+ Show Spoiler [Bans and Picks] +Fnatic vs SSS Game 1Team A vs. Team B+ Show Spoiler +Bans:
Ban Ban
Ban Ban
Ban Ban
Picks:
Pick Pick / Pick
Pick / Pick Pick / Pick
Pick / Pick Pick vs. Team B+ Show Spoiler +Bans:
Ban Ban
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Picks:
Pick Pick / Pick
Pick / Pick Pick / Pick
Pick / Pick Pick vs. Team B+ Show Spoiler +
18:00 GMT (+00:00) - Semifinals #2
+ Show Spoiler [Bans and Picks] +CLG.eu vs Wolves Game 1CLG.eu vs. Wolves+ Show Spoiler +Bans:
Rengar Anivia
Katarina Irelia
Xin Zhao Shen
Picks:
Blitzcrank Ezreal / Zyra
Cho'Gath / Corki Olaf / Maokai
Rumble / Lee Sin Diana vs. CLG.eu+ Show Spoiler +Bans:
Ban Ban
Ban Ban
Ban Ban
Picks:
Pick Pick / Pick
Pick / Pick Pick / Pick
Pick / Pick Pick vs. Wolves+ Show Spoiler +Bans:
Ban Ban
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Ban Ban
Picks:
Pick Pick / Pick
Pick / Pick Pick / Pick
Pick / Pick Pick
21:30 GMT (+00:00) - Finals
+ Show Spoiler [Bans and Picks] +Fnatic vs CLG.eu Game 1Fnatic vs. CLG.eu+ Show Spoiler +Bans:
Ban Ban
Ban Ban
Ban Ban
Picks:
Pick Pick / Pick
Pick / Pick Pick / Pick
Pick / Pick Pick vs. Fnatic+ Show Spoiler +Bans:
Ban Ban
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Picks:
Pick Pick / Pick
Pick / Pick Pick / Pick
Pick / Pick Pick vs. Team B+ Show Spoiler +Bans:
Ban Ban
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Pick Pick / Pick
Pick / Pick Pick / Pick
Pick / Pick Pick
Results
+ Show Spoiler +Group A + Show Spoiler +CLG.eu - BYOC
Acer - BYOC
GIANTS - BYOC
Standings
CLG.eu 3-0
GIANTS 0-3
Acer 1-2
SSS 2-1 Group B + Show Spoiler +Curse - BYOC
Fnatic - BYOC
Midgets - BYOC
Standings
Fnatic 3-0
Curse 1-2
Midgets 1-2
Wolves 1-2
Wolves advance to the playoffs after a tiebreak round robin. Semifinals #1 + Show Spoiler +Fnatic - SSS
Fnatic - SSS
Fnatic 2:0 SSS Semifinals #2 + Show Spoiler +CLG.eu - Wolves
CLG.eu - Wolves
CLG.eu 2:0 Wolves Finals + Show Spoiler +Fnatic - CLG.eu
Fnatic - CLG.eu
Fnatic - CLG.eu
Fnatic 2:1 CLG.eu
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United States37500 Posts
Jree, the support who subbed for CLG.eu @ LSC2, and his team will be entering the BYOC bracket.
Apparently his team was the #1 ranked 5 teams on EU. :O
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Looking forward to this. All of Dreamhack is going to be full of awesome events.
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United States23745 Posts
On November 21 2012 10:50 NeoIllusions wrote:
Jree, the support who subbed for CLG.eu @ LSC2, and his team will be entering the BYOC bracket.
Apparently his team was the #1 ranked 5 teams on EU. :O
I'm kind of hoping CLG.EU just go and pick up Jree as their season 3 sub, his synergy with them at MLG Dallas was really impressive considering how little time they had to practice before hand.
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Vancouver14381 Posts
The tournament format is really harsh on the BYOC teams. They play 5 rounds on day 1 then play up to a maximum of 9 games on day 2 - 3 bo1 round robin, bo3 semis and finals.
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I'm confused. You've got all the BYOC games happening at the same time as the group stages. What day are the BYOC games and what day are the group stages?
Edit: So I missed that there were group stage games on Friday. I guess they're going to send the poor BYOC teams through the ringer then. Rough schedule indeed.
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United States37500 Posts
Didn't CLG.eu win the last DH through BYOC bracket?
edit: and tbh, it's just a grueling amount of games, that bracket should be stomps 90% of the games anyways. zz
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Vancouver14381 Posts
DreamHack Summer was a 3 day tournament with BYOC day 1, Group play day 2, Playoffs day 3. Don't know why they're only using 2 of the 3 days at DH for LoL.
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On November 21 2012 17:27 NeoIllusions wrote:
Didn't CLG.eu win the last DH through BYOC bracket?
edit: and tbh, it's just a grueling amount of games, that bracket should be stomps 90% of the games anyways. zz
Yea they even did a donate "HELP us to DH" thing at reddit.
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Thursday and Friday, duh. What happens on the weekend, why cant they do it then?
Also, are the casters any good?
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Edit: So I missed that there were group stage games on Friday. I guess they're going to send the poor BYOC teams through the ringer then. Rough schedule indeed.
as someone who played the BYOC last DH. Indeed it IS a rough schedule (we were finished at about 12 with playing the whole day).
Some things about BYOC: it is kinda seeded so it is really unlikely to have several good teams playing each other and most likely the known good teams in the byoc will go through. You also have to play within the masses and have people left and right of you playing (other) games and screaming at each other. In addition to that you dont have good chairs/tables (thats actually kinda a big deal  )
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On November 21 2012 17:35 JBright wrote:
DreamHack Summer was a 3 day tournament with BYOC day 1, Group play day 2, Playoffs day 3. Don't know why they're only using 2 of the 3 days at DH for LoL.
I was thinking it was probably because IEM is also happening, but I just realized that now they completely overlap LOL. Makes no sense to me either.
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gonna start 45 mins time and whats BYOC means?
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Korea (South)11232 Posts
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On November 22 2012 22:17 Chexx wrote:
Bring your own computer
wtf so the qualifiers raelly bring their own comp to compete?
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Korea (South)11232 Posts
On November 22 2012 22:34 justiceknight wrote:wtf so the qualifiers raelly bring their own comp to compete?
yes. This year in spring I believe. CLG.EU faced the same problem and made a vlog if somebody can lend them computers.
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On November 22 2012 22:34 justiceknight wrote:wtf so the qualifiers raelly bring their own comp to compete?
Yep.
We sent a SC2 player to play in the BYOC Bracket there and we had to arrange for him to have a computer to use.
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Dont forget at its core Dreamhack is a giant BYOC event.
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I know this is probably bad to ask, but anyone know of an Own3d restream? Twitch.TV doesn't work here.
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On November 22 2012 23:46 Mensol wrote:
Rachel is hot as usual.
No dress though 
On the looks department, Panky should ditch the horrible golden necklace. So tacky.
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hot damn this video quality is good
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On November 22 2012 23:49 Doctorbeat wrote:No dress though On the looks department, Panky should ditch the horrible golden necklace. So tacky.
Looks very British.
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CLG.eu vs GIANTS game 1:
Bans:
Rengar Anivia Cho'Gath Irelia Kassadin Lee Sin
Picks:
Blitzcrank Amumu Ezreal Maokai Corki Lulu Olaf Shen Lux Orianna
Yay for Froggen Lux!
He also manages to draw out the Lee Sin bans now, freeing up space for his team with picks.
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That commentator = Matt Damon from certain angles lol
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Oh damn. Lux ult still bugging out at bot turret dive from Froggen. Lulu+Ez take no damage when the ult was right in their face.
Dayummmmm. CLG.eu playing pretty damn well this game.
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On November 22 2012 23:46 Mensol wrote:
Rachel is hot as usual.
Sorry, the new Rachel is the hot french girl from TotL.
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I think CLG.EU vs Acer is the defining match of this group....depending on who comes out of the BYOC
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OMG FROGGEN ANIVIA, how long has it been. I think the last time it was not banned is OGN Finals Blindpick lol,
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CLG.eu vs ACER game 1:
Bans: Nunu Blitzcrank Gragas Lee Sin Xin Zhao Irelia
Picks: Ezreal Zyra Jayce Leona Olaf Graves Udyr Anivia Cho'Gath Lux
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On November 22 2012 03:56 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2012 17:35 JBright wrote:
DreamHack Summer was a 3 day tournament with BYOC day 1, Group play day 2, Playoffs day 3. Don't know why they're only using 2 of the 3 days at DH for LoL. I was thinking it was probably because IEM is also happening, but I just realized that now they completely overlap LOL. Makes no sense to me either.
The stage used for LoL is DreamArena Extreme, and during day 3 all other games will have their finals there (except SC2), so they are giving LoL the biggest stage they have for two days (except Kinnarps Arena, the nearby hockey arena, used for the SC2 Finals day 3).
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Laneswap going way better for Clg.eu Wickd lvl 5 while Jayce was lvl 2 for a looong time and just leveld up to 3
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Froggen builds so weird.
WotA Chalice Tear.
Tear doesn't even build with R on Anivia :/
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Too bad Acer didn't notice froggen backed, they could have taken the drake.
Edit: actually, both putting R on and off procs tear for Anivia. Q double-procs it too. It's stupidly fast to charge tear on her, and she's currently the only one on whom it works that way.
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Citizen juking Krepo so good.
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krepo really playing a terrible leona today
On November 23 2012 01:33 Doctorbeat wrote:
Froggen builds so weird.
WotA Chalice Tear.
Tear doesn't even build with R on Anivia :/
what u talking about whenever he uses his ult he gets 2 stacks on tear
Froggen cs so sick, also his Warmogs is ready :D
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I'm not sure about Jayce/Udyr taking the farm bot when Graves almost has IE...
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On November 23 2012 01:38 AsnSensation wrote:krepo really playing a terrible leona today Show nested quote +On November 23 2012 01:33 Doctorbeat wrote:
Froggen builds so weird.
WotA Chalice Tear.
Tear doesn't even build with R on Anivia :/ what u talking about whenever he uses his ult he gets 2 stacks on tear
Really? I always thought it didn't work with channeled spells (Anivia R, Singed Q, etc).
I'm a noob, looked it up on Wiki. Anivia gets 1 stack for starting R, 1 for ending R.
Also, Froggen warmogs finished huehue
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Froggen's gonna have blue while Citizen couldn't get his... next 4 minutes after drake are gonna be harsh for Acer.
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On November 23 2012 01:40 Doctorbeat wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2012 01:38 AsnSensation wrote:krepo really playing a terrible leona today On November 23 2012 01:33 Doctorbeat wrote:
Froggen builds so weird.
WotA Chalice Tear.
Tear doesn't even build with R on Anivia :/ what u talking about whenever he uses his ult he gets 2 stacks on tear Really? I always thought it didn't work with channeled spells (Anivia R, Singed Q, etc). I'm a noob, looked it up on Wiki. Anivia gets 1 stack for starting R, 1 for ending R. Also, Froggen warmogs finished huehue
well for starters never doubt Froggen yeah 7-8 months ago when clg.eu first rose in popularity I also didnt know that and went wtf at Froggen's builds but tear stacks extremely fast on Anivia
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The farm on Froggen is just unbelievible
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warmogs froggen
krepo missing so many ults
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Small score/goldcount plz for me in the train with no video
tnx on advance
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On November 23 2012 01:46 AsnSensation wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2012 01:40 Doctorbeat wrote:On November 23 2012 01:38 AsnSensation wrote:krepo really playing a terrible leona today On November 23 2012 01:33 Doctorbeat wrote:
Froggen builds so weird.
WotA Chalice Tear.
Tear doesn't even build with R on Anivia :/ what u talking about whenever he uses his ult he gets 2 stacks on tear Really? I always thought it didn't work with channeled spells (Anivia R, Singed Q, etc). I'm a noob, looked it up on Wiki. Anivia gets 1 stack for starting R, 1 for ending R. Also, Froggen warmogs finished huehue well for starters never doubt Froggen yeah 7-8 months ago when clg.eu first rose in popularity I also didnt know that and went wtf at Froggen's builds but tear stacks extremely fast on Anivia
might i add that this also applies to anivia Q
you launch it and get 1 stack, detonate for another
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There goes flashless Udyr. Acer still got CLG to use 3 flashes on that, but with Anivia on CLG's side Acer's flashes are much morre important.
30 minutes, 3-2 for CLG, 43k to 36k and 3-2 in towers.
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3:2 kills in favour of clg.eu
42k gold to 36k
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On November 23 2012 01:47 ihasaKAROT wrote:
Small score/goldcount plz for me in the train with no video
tnx on advance
3 2, 42k vs 35 for clg
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It's what you'd expect from a CLG eu game, 5 kills total, over 30 mins game, they're ahead bout 7k gold.
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On November 23 2012 01:47 Frolossus wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2012 01:46 AsnSensation wrote:On November 23 2012 01:40 Doctorbeat wrote:On November 23 2012 01:38 AsnSensation wrote:krepo really playing a terrible leona today On November 23 2012 01:33 Doctorbeat wrote:
Froggen builds so weird.
WotA Chalice Tear.
Tear doesn't even build with R on Anivia :/ what u talking about whenever he uses his ult he gets 2 stacks on tear Really? I always thought it didn't work with channeled spells (Anivia R, Singed Q, etc). I'm a noob, looked it up on Wiki. Anivia gets 1 stack for starting R, 1 for ending R. Also, Froggen warmogs finished huehue well for starters never doubt Froggen yeah 7-8 months ago when clg.eu first rose in popularity I also didnt know that and went wtf at Froggen's builds but tear stacks extremely fast on Anivia might i add that this also applies to anivia Q you launch it and get 1 stack, detonate for another
And with S3 patch it will also work for channeling spells, so even moar mana for anivia
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Just tuned in, and I see the score at 3-2, told myself oh I didn't miss too much untill I see the game time at 33 mins. Lol it can only be CLG.eu 5 kills in 33 mins game.
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What is Citizen buying? Rylai, WotA? Got a tome and blasting wand in his inv. maybe DFG?
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every Froggen wall is forcing at least 1 flash lol...
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The game's slowly getting boring, though. Acer doesn't manage to poke CLG aggressively, and CLG are way too tanky to mind anyway (Olaf even picked up FoN now) unless yellowpete gets caught, and CLG was ahead in gold, so they simply instaclear waves with Anivia and send someone push top and/or bot every now and then when the wave comes back, while Froggen holds the enemy team at bay.
We know Acer won't play aggressive enough (and simply don't have the initiating power to do so, Udyr, Jayce vs Anivia/Cho? No chance at all) and CLG will simply wait for full builds before pushing against a team that'll cower when they can simply fight them, kill them then push and win.
Typical playstyle, if only they'd learn to push their advantages harder against lower teams, we wouldn't waste so much time. :/
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Stream quality is awesome, the movement feels somehow really fluid and nice. And it's free <3 DH
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I cant decide whether CLG's no risk strategy is brilliant or terrible
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On November 23 2012 01:54 Amethyst21 wrote:
I cant decide whether CLG's no risk strategy is brilliant or terrible
Brilliant strategy, terrible for watching.
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Zzzz Acer gets kited around so easily. CLG just move into the jungle when they need to run away and they have so many abilities to control the pathways in the jungle.
Also I really don't like jungle Udyr in combination with the poke comp.
Wow Citizen got balls, going for Lich Bane on Lux. Hitting dem autos is going to get him exposed.
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Acer does no damage to nashor, even with CLG basing they can't take it and get forced off.
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On November 23 2012 01:54 daemir wrote:
Stream quality is awesome, the movement feels somehow really fluid and nice. And it's free <3 DH
y I think ipl3 was the first to stream 60fps and It took a few hours to get used to it but nowadays <3 60fps <3 thats why i love dreamhack, also they don't charge 15 bucks for one weekend like MLG LOL.
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usual clg 40 mins 7 kills game
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Who is Acer's AD carry? He was running around outside the base doing nothing while CLG.eu was taking down the inh...
EDIT: Cool baron steal though
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On November 23 2012 01:55 Doctorbeat wrote:
Also I really don't like jungle Udyr in combination with the poke comp.
Udyr is supposed to help disengage with his short range Bear mobility and multi stuns, Turtle to shrug off CLG's poke, and a shurelya on top of it.
Too bad there's Cho and Anivia on the other team.
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Wickd is so farmed, mogs randuins fon shurelia and a giants belt
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Anivia blue+chalice, Acer with Baron buff, under CLG's inhib tower... we all know Anivia will win all day long till Nash has ended. Acer leaves.
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On November 23 2012 01:55 Xacez wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2012 01:54 Amethyst21 wrote:
I cant decide whether CLG's no risk strategy is brilliant or terrible Brilliant strategy, terrible for watching.
I think the problem is that take it so far as to almost lose advantages. It would be brilliant if they pushed their advantages more I feel. Like that baron was really bad. They can just fight and own acer but instead they do nothing and lose baron.
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Wow... why didn't Lux target Wickd there? He'd probably have lived, but still.
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Wickd is pretty much inkillable..
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On November 23 2012 02:02 Alaric wrote:
Wow... why didn't Lux target Wickd there? He'd probably have lived, but still.
I think they could take someone down on CLG if they had DFG. Need moar burst!
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On November 23 2012 02:02 Alaric wrote:
Wow... why didn't Lux target Wickd there? He'd probably have lived, but still.
yeah very bad ulti there, hit noone in CLG.eu I think. If Lux hit that ulti CLG.eu would have backed out.
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Does anivia lose the oracle when she gets egged?
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Lol Wickd. Double Warmog op
@Argoth: No. You lose the oracle when you die.
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Wickd gonna end with bout 5.5k hp after that 2nd mogs fills up? crazy
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At least he'll have damage when he'll press W.
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:---O froggen, brave flash going solo, gets a kill npnp
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Acer's team is sooooooo annoying.
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solution to poke comp : get shit ton of regen, lifesteal, spellvamp.
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On November 23 2012 02:09 RouaF wrote:
solution to poke comp : get shit ton of regen, lifesteal, spellvamp.
And stall and farm.
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CLG eu solution to everything, stall and farm.
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haha snoopeh best "the cameraman suggested those bans before game, so just went with it"
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On November 23 2012 02:10 daemir wrote:
CLG eu solution to everything, stall and farm.
I mean they tried to engage. The other team just had really good disengage with Zyra and Lux.
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On November 23 2012 02:08 Zergneedsfood wrote:
Acer's team is sooooooo annoying.
Na, it's CLG EU's play. Every time I see them take 25 minutes to end a team they have a more than commanding lead against, I ask myself "do they lack confidence in their abilities that much that they don't feel capable of ending it now?".
They could have dived Acer anytime since around 30 minutes, forced them off the tower, then taken it, but they never even tried.
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Somehow I really like Yellowpetes AD play. It fits so well with CLG's whole playstyle. Totally calm and focused, no real "daily highlight" plays but minding his business and racking kills and CS up on the way.
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On November 23 2012 02:12 Alaric wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2012 02:08 Zergneedsfood wrote:
Acer's team is sooooooo annoying. Na, it's CLG EU's play. Every time I see them take 25 minutes to end a team they have a more than commanding lead against, I ask myself "do they lack confidence in their abilities that much that they don't feel capable of ending it now?". They could have dived Acer anytime since around 30 minutes, forced them off the tower, then taken it, but they never even tried.
wut?
They did this plenty of times, they just got poked down and stunned and rooted every single time before they even could try a dive. Forcing a hard engage against a team with Jayce/Zyra/Lux + shurelias is not that easy.
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A LoL tournament on schedule, is this real life?
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On November 23 2012 02:14 Dan HH wrote:
A LoL tournament on schedule, is this real life?
is this just Fantasy?
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Someone realised CLG was playing and factored in 1 hr per game
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Well they have 1h30 for each Bo1, even CLG.eu would have trouble delaying them.
And they "tried" by having Froggen catch someone who flashed the wall (or died, happened every time) or Snoopeh walk up to them. It certainly didn't help that Krepo wasn't in his best day (his Leona is downright scary) but with Olaf's ult, Cho's range and cc, Anivia's wall and Leona's initiation, it's not something that can be disengaged from (especially with Anivia's wall to completely shut down Acceleration gate, Bear stance and shurelya's).
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On the other hand I don't ever fault CLG.EU for playing for the win smartly. Yea, taking it slow steady and sure might be boring for viewers, but well, a lot of professional work is just that. Taking the slow methodical way that works instead of doing it flashy and failing.
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On November 23 2012 02:12 Alaric wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2012 02:08 Zergneedsfood wrote:
Acer's team is sooooooo annoying. Na, it's CLG EU's play. Every time I see them take 25 minutes to end a team they have a more than commanding lead against, I ask myself "do they lack confidence in their abilities that much that they don't feel capable of ending it now?". They could have dived Acer anytime since around 30 minutes, forced them off the tower, then taken it, but they never even tried.
Thats not really always the problem, the question is. Is their lead relatively bigger in the stalled late game, vs their lead early on? Usually it is, but sometimes it diminishes and it bites them in the ass.
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On November 23 2012 02:18 Alaric wrote:Well they have 1h30 for each Bo1, even CLG.eu would have trouble delaying them. And they "tried" by having Froggen catch someone who flashed the wall (or died, happened every time) or Snoopeh walk up to them. It certainly didn't help that Krepo wasn't in his best day (his Leona is downright scary) but with Olaf's ult, Cho's range and cc, Anivia's wall and Leona's initiation, it's not something that can be disengaged from (especially with Anivia's wall to completely shut down Acceleration gate, Bear stance and shurelya's).
Snoopeh was pretty inaccurate with his ruptures. Krepo was whiffing ults left and right. Froggen is not going to be frontline because he tanked so many shots even with his warmogs. Olaf didn't have shurelias until after his warmogs/force of nature (and maybe even after randuins) and the other team had a shurelias a lot earlier + acceleration gate.
The range on Zyra's snare/root + Acer's poke is enough to dodge all of those things unless they need to defend a tower, and even then they had Zyra's ult to fall back on to give them time to run away. The risks of turret diving that is immense when you consider how easy it is to root a massive chogath, or just plant an ult under the tower and throw all of your team into the air.
So clg.eu was trying a lot. They just failed a lot, in part because they weren't necessarily on top of their skill shots, but also because the other team's comp was really really lame.
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On November 23 2012 02:15 aRyuujin wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2012 02:14 Dan HH wrote:
A LoL tournament on schedule, is this real life? is this just Fantasy?
Caught in a landslide
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I've come to see it as a weakness, compared to, say, Korean teams who, due to their aggressive playstyle, tend to know better the relative strengths of both team at any point, and know both when to close out the game, and how to do it.
If CLG.eu was to play against a team mechanically sound enough to get ahead early on, then react well enough that CLG has to do something immediatly (like forcing fights on objectives rather than the "slowly drive them out" style or their "slow suffocation" when they're ahead), I'm not sure if they would be able to adapt to that. Granted, we don't really get to see those situations occur in CLG.eu's games, but since they don't play that style often it makes me wonder if they wouldn't end up the same as most inferior teams confronted to CLG.na's splitpush teleport comp, where in the lategame CLG.na wins from sheer experience of the situation leading to their opponent making more mistakes that they can exploit.
Edit: I'm pretty biaised since I consider Anivia one of the lamest champs in the game so I guess we won't reach an agreement, with me saying that CLG's comp was as lame as Acer's.
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CLG.eu usually builds their comps for late game as well, so their "relative lead" are usually boosted in the end game just due to champ select, even if their gold lead doesn't expand through stalling.
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On November 23 2012 02:26 Alaric wrote:I've come to see it as a weakness, compared to, say, Korean teams who, due to their aggressive playstyle, tend to know better the relative strengths of both team at any point, and know both when to close out the game, and how to do it. If CLG.eu was to play against a team mechanically sound enough to get ahead early on, then react well enough that CLG has to do something immediatly (like forcing fights on objectives rather than the "slowly drive them out" style or their "slow suffocation" when they're ahead), I'm not sure if they would be able to adapt to that. Granted, we don't really get to see those situations occur in CLG.eu's games, but since they don't play that style often it makes me wonder if they wouldn't end up the same as most inferior teams confronted to CLG.na's splitpush teleport comp, where in the lategame CLG.na wins from sheer experience of the situation leading to their opponent making more mistakes that they can exploit. Edit: I'm pretty biaised since I consider Anivia one of the lamest champs in the game so I guess we won't reach an agreement, with me saying that CLG's comp was as lame as Acer's.
Both team comps equally lame to play against honestly :D.
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Well at MLG and LSC CLG.eu showed a more aggressive early-game style and they got more comfortable with it since S2 Finals.
So i think they are on their way to adapt to play more different styles then their old usual play like this game. But u could somehow see from their picks, that they would fall back to this in this game. It mostly depends on what Froggen wants to play i think and Anivia just fits pretty perfect in this slow playstyle.
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On November 23 2012 02:33 Samson1te wrote:
Well at MLG and LSC CLG.eu showed a more aggressive early-game style and they got more comfortable with it since S2 Finals.
So i think they are on their way to adapt to play more different styles then their old usual play like this game. But u could somehow see from their picks, that they would fall back to this in this game. It mostly depends on what Froggen wants to play i think and Anivia just fits pretty perfect in this slow playstyle.
Indeed. At MLG and LSC CLG.eu had in nearly every game they won the worse late game comp than their opponents. This game their slow and tanky style was just the right answer to what Acer was doing.
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Is the stream lagging for anyone else or is it just me cursed with the "twitch lags from 6PM to 10PM"?
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is BYOC just the flashy name of their qualifier or do peopple actually have to bring their own computers?
I know clg.eu got their xmg laptops for the last dreamhack.
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On November 23 2012 02:47 AsnSensation wrote:is BYOC just the flashy name of their qualifier or do peopple actually have to bring their own computers? I know clg.eu got their xmg laptops for the last dreamhack.
So you kinda answered your own question. 
Yes, Dreamhack still is a classic LAN where you bring your own computers.
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On November 23 2012 02:26 Alaric wrote:I've come to see it as a weakness, compared to, say, Korean teams who, due to their aggressive playstyle, tend to know better the relative strengths of both team at any point, and know both when to close out the game, and how to do it. If CLG.eu was to play against a team mechanically sound enough to get ahead early on, then react well enough that CLG has to do something immediatly (like forcing fights on objectives rather than the "slowly drive them out" style or their "slow suffocation" when they're ahead), I'm not sure if they would be able to adapt to that. Granted, we don't really get to see those situations occur in CLG.eu's games, but since they don't play that style often it makes me wonder if they wouldn't end up the same as most inferior teams confronted to CLG.na's splitpush teleport comp, where in the lategame CLG.na wins from sheer experience of the situation leading to their opponent making more mistakes that they can exploit. Edit: I'm pretty biaised since I consider Anivia one of the lamest champs in the game so I guess we won't reach an agreement, with me saying that CLG's comp was as lame as Acer's.
lol thought only I hate anivia with her kit, u just cant do much vs her lame stalling potential and the base dmg on skills is just plain stupid
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Just realized there are only 2 casters for the whole event, they'll get wrecked tomorrow with the 12 hour schedule.
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im getting almost no sound on the stream
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The sound often stops for awhile for me, and is choppy when it's on because of the lag. The volume is also pretty low (I only understood the questions from the hostess during interviews, not a single answer).
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On November 23 2012 02:58 Alaric wrote:
The sound often stops for awhile for me, and is choppy when it's on because of the lag. The volume is also pretty low (I only understood the questions from the hostess during interviews, not a single answer).
yeah, its not a volume problem, just goes out for a long long time. image fine though
lowering from 720p+ to 720 fixed it
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I see some team forgot why you ban anivia vs clg
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On November 23 2012 03:01 Kuja900 wrote:
I see some team forgot why you ban anivia vs clg
every once in a while a team doesnt ban it in the hopes that froggen has forgotten how to play it because of all the bans :p
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That skarner is so dumb >.> pulls anivia, when everyone on his team is low, and then gets walled and dies.
EDIT: He redeems himself with Baron steal!
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That vayne will kick some ass.
Edit: what a play by acer
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Huge turnaround from Acer. Huge steal into an ace
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How can you steal Baron versus Cho+Nunu+Smite?
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Ah jeez... that was an awful baron fight. Skarner with the hero steal against triple true damage lol
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how does shen die vs a solo karthus? Nothing made sense in that fight :<
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How they stole that is beyond me
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That karthus dishes out some real pain. Scary, with zonyas + passive.
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Acer the king of throws in EU?
lol ez 1v2's vayne + shen. rofl.
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And then Acer throws their baron advantage immediately zzzzzzzz
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Unfortunate for the Vayne, Ez ult just barely clips her.
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FH on ezreal, is this dominion?
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On November 23 2012 03:47 Affenaffe wrote:
FH on ezreal, is this dominion?
Just in case Vayne want to duel with him again.
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Fnatic vs Curse is the one game I have been looking forward to today.
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Nrated is pretty dissapointing already :/
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very well played by both ad carries, nrated a bit too unlucky now
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The lag is almost unbearable, I missed most of the inbetween bits of the countergank bot (still saw everything important, but on a powerpoint).
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totally smooth for me, can't complain at all. Dunno what's wrong for you dude
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hhaahhahaha so bad by that corki
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creaton following without mana/cd?
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nRated's post-laning grabs have been a lot better than his laning ones, heh.
Ditto Rekkles and his Vayne play, v.v.nicely judged.
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Rekkles is pretty damn good.
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For some reason the stream isn't watchable at 720 or 720+p anymore, I started the afternoon at 720, but now it's frozen on a single image and doesn't play, with no sound, if I switch to them. Maybe it's my ISP, but it only happens on twitch/youtube and during those hours...
That Vayne though. Beautiful play against Corki from what I could catch.
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Fnatic's random pink wards scattered throughout all the lanes pay off bigtime with an Evelynn spotting leading to a Rocket Grab.
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nrated = krepo fail at supporting, get carried by team today
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Yeah, Blitz/Vayne is a lane that's hard to do a lot with vs Corki/Lulu, esp when you're not landing any grabs, but I like Fnatic's decision to grab dragon/trade towers to get Vayne the gold she needed - let her pull off a bunch of clutch plays from behind, whereas if she'd not had that gold, she would have died before picking up a bunch of kills on people diving her.
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That game was a level above what we have seen so far.
Should be a good semi final with CLG.eu vs Curse.eu.
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quick recaps peeps? :O
Thanksgiving + NA time = gg EU tourney
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Curse vs fanatic was pretty close until curse threw a baron fight and fnatic built their momentum from that on to snowball to victory.
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What game are you guys referring to so I can look up VODs later?
Fnatic v Curse.EU?
I love me dem Eve games; so happy she is viable in tourney play and yet underplayed in solo q.
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Rengar letting Ez take back their own blue...
Edit: Corki missclicked (I assume) and did not take his Ult at level 6.
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And that is why you drink hp pots during fights.
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yeah getting away twice with just a sliver of health 
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Well these mighty midgets don't seem that mighty, are there any interesting BYOC teams? If not I think I might tune out and wait for the semifinals.
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On November 23 2012 06:08 Argoth. wrote:yeah getting away twice with just a sliver of health
I meant the Irelia v Xin fight. Lulu is just lucky. ^^
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Small crowd. @.@
Saw a glimpse after the Crs v Midget game.
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Nexus dead at 21:12, ouch. Oh well, style points to Curse.EU for Lux & Xin.
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On November 23 2012 06:15 NeoIllusions wrote:
Small crowd. @.@
Saw a glimpse after the Crs v Midget game.
its thursday evening
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that steve job parody ad/video or whatever that was, is hilarious haha
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that telia advert is really well done
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On November 23 2012 06:23 AsnSensation wrote:
that steve job parody ad/video or whatever that was, is hilarious haha
+ Show Spoiler +
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Fnatic still plays bad, nothing changed. Meh.
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Ashe lulu lane, not something you see everyday
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Ok, so Vayne is considered strong lategame because of her %hp damage?
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Welp, going to be interesting to see if any of the BYOC teams can compete with Acer in g1 or Curse.EU in g2.
@shinarit: Yes. She's the closest thing to a hypercarry in LoL (along with Kog'Maw and maybe Karthus). Get items and the damage will be ridiculous, it doesn't matter if you build tanky due to true damage.
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On November 23 2012 07:24 shinarit wrote:
Ok, so Vayne is considered strong lategame because of her %hp damage?
Invisible tumbles and Condemn also makes it really hard for bruisers to stick to her.
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On November 23 2012 07:24 shinarit wrote:
Ok, so Vayne is considered strong lategame because of her %hp damage?
That, and she's extremly slippery and hard to kill
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On November 23 2012 06:45 Antyee wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2012 06:23 AsnSensation wrote:
that steve job parody ad/video or whatever that was, is hilarious haha + Show Spoiler +http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njos57IJf-0
Hayek vs. Keynes is better imo.
+ Show Spoiler +
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Day 2 starting up with clg.eu vs Sju Sjösjuka Sjömän (Jree's team).
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Halp plox. Being an 'merican, I'm not home to watch LoL. ;(
Need highlights for games plz.
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When snoopeh is 20 cs ahead of his counterpart, you know someone is getting camped hard (definitely not wickd).
On November 23 2012 19:12 NeoIllusions wrote:
Halp plox. Being an 'merican, I'm not home to watch LoL. ;(
Need highlights for games plz.
clg:
bans:zyra, leesin, something
picks:ezreal/chogath,leona/lux,rumble
sss:
bans:anivia, irelia, blitzcrank
picks:corki,olaf/diana,janna/shen
+ Show Spoiler +Clg invaded blue, got fb for froggen.
Krepo hit a nice ult on jree as snoopeh popped up from the side and yellowpete returned to lane, yellowpete got a kill.
In the meantime, olaf camping wickd,wickd dies once for overextending, once to a towerdive. A towerdive at top on snoopeh gets a 1 for 1.
Froggen laser-steals a blue.
Bit later 4v4 at dragon, clg gets a 3 for 0.
Sss pushing top as 5, they manage to disengage without losing anyone; but as they are at their inner turrets, olaf and janna die to chogath-knockup and froggen, respectively.
Clg starts a sneaky baron, froggen gets on kill on jree, they get baron and mid inner tower+a kill on corki.
Sss start chasing, they get froggen, but lose corki and shen.
Clg pushes, gets the other 3 and bot inhibitor.
And they finish the game at the time of this post, 32.45 game time.
Krepo still being yellowpete.
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Wish Rachel would wear something like yesterday. For I am a nerd.
SSS didnt do all that bad actually, just lacking real teamwork. Individual skill is pretty good.
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@antyee thanks!
Crs.eu is 1-2?! Wtfffff
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On November 23 2012 19:12 NeoIllusions wrote:
Halp plox. Being an 'merican, I'm not home to watch LoL. ;(
Need highlights for games plz.
Wait, YOU are not home when this happens at worktime in Europe?
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On November 23 2012 19:44 shinarit wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2012 19:12 NeoIllusions wrote:
Halp plox. Being an 'merican, I'm not home to watch LoL. ;(
Need highlights for games plz. Wait, YOU are not home when this happens at worktime in Europe?
It's 2:45 and I'm at the mall. Zz
Black Friday shopping. I'm a bag holder and stander-in-line.
Checking TL on the phone lol. So recaps are both entertaining now while I'm bored and will be useful when I do recaps on Monday.
Tyty all you Europeans who can help me.
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damn went to an early workout and missed the only clg.eu game until 10pm tonight, but after reading that Froggen got first blood it's already gg haha
Does Jree play supp for his SSS team as well?
wow did the giants just really fp Kassadin? unless Kassadin is the their mid's signature champion like Anivia to Froggen I dont see any reason to justify that xD
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On November 23 2012 20:14 AsnSensation wrote:
damn went to an early workout and missed the only clg.eu game until 10pm tonight, but after reading that Froggen got first blood it's already gg haha
Does Jree play supp for his SSS team as well?
Yes, he does.
I'm still hoping CLG.eu picks him up as a sub for Season 3.
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Beautiful plays by Jree's team and the God Hand is stronk with this blitz
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Baserace! But Giants is hopelessly behind and have to recall, too late though as SSS pushes through nexus turrets full 5 man and works down the nexus while ignoring the returning Giants. GeeGee
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well that was an anticlimatic ending.
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i love how they call them "the swedish team" because nobody can spell that name :D.
And i'm pretty impressed by their play. Very solid, good team coordination.
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Katarina cleaning up the trash.
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On November 23 2012 22:04 Samson1te wrote:
i love how they call them "the swedish team" because nobody can spell that name :D.
And i'm pretty impressed by their play. Very solid, good team coordination.
They are impossible to cheer for tho. Either you break your mouth, or you say semen... I cant do it. Calling em team S from now on
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why no clg eu, can anyone link bracket please?
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we will have a shortbreak, we will be back at 7 :D 2 hour break ok. Let's go CLG.EU
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Dreamhack breaks are pretty awesome :D.
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So it ened up being decided by win/loss time after even the tie-breaker finished with a 3-way tie.
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Hah this telia advert is ace
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Shame that wickd isn't also yellowpete.
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Froggen getting lee Sin, already excited for this, not fond of Wickd's rumble though.
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Is Heal on Rumble common? I would imagine Ignite being the superior choice due to how he is played.
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How's wickd's rumble? I've almost never seen him off irelia/jayce but I can't remember him looking good off them.
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On November 24 2012 03:16 Xacez wrote:
Is Heal on Rumble common? I would imagine Ignite being the superior choice due to how he is played.
wickd is running heal on all his champs nowadays when he expects/plans a 1v2 lane
his rumble, is ok#ish but somehow ap champs just dont fit him^^
well i guess svenskeren is fucked haha
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On November 24 2012 03:16 Xacez wrote:
Is Heal on Rumble common? I would imagine Ignite being the superior choice due to how he is played.
Heal rumble = 2v1 lane rumble. That's what wickd does but maybe he's learnt it's too obvious a tell.
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On November 24 2012 03:17 Numy wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2012 03:16 Xacez wrote:
Is Heal on Rumble common? I would imagine Ignite being the superior choice due to how he is played. Heal rumble = 2v1 lane rumble. That's what wickd does but maybe he's learnt it's too obvious a tell.
Seems to be that case.
Meanwhile, Blitz hook into FB for Corki. And Maokai is royally screwed.
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On November 24 2012 03:16 Fusilero wrote:
How's wickd's rumble? I've almost never seen him off irelia/jayce but I can't remember him looking good off them.
Rumble is like, the only AP champ that he plays well at all.
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I actually feel sorry for this poor maokai.
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I'm so sad for Maokai. T_T
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flash smite to steal blue :D
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That cc chain on bot lane gank, silence after silence.
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Did Ezreal just E into the hook?
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Yeah, so damn hard to play against. So one sided T_T
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Can I open a support group for that poor maokai, he's just making me cry now.
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Those were good jukes by Maokai, but he's so behind.
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this maokai has to be the saddest jungler ever :D
also lee Sin kicks are the most satisfying kills ever, even better if you kill with the QRQ combo
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So not really surprising, clg just playing with svenskeren.
Btw, these guys are such terrible casters, not rivington level terrible but they really talk about silly things at times.
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Until an ill-fated froggen diving top lane behind the turret turns into wickd + froggen dead for only maokai while diana and olaf trap them and take a turret off the favorable kill trade. Wolves back on the map, though still behind (6-2 killscore, 3k lead for CLG)
Shortly after, in bot lane: Zyra eats a hook and dies, but then a counterdive on yellowpete kills him and follows up taking bot outer turret.
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This diana is really getting work done despite how badly it started.
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aww not again
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But CLG still telling maokai that he isn't allowed to have a jungle.
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9x maokai for feeding pls
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On November 24 2012 03:36 Argoth. wrote:
9x maokai for feeding pls
Eh, Froggen is just farming the jungle. Maokai is a tree, so he's in froggen's farming rotation, right?
I'm really liking Snoopeh's cho. He's not falling too far behind in farm, either.
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noooo again! wtf clg eu has vs svenskeren ><
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The second maokai leaves his spawn he dies, AVENGE HIM DIANA.
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Once mao gets a kill on snoopeh or froggen i'll fist pump for him
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KARMA'S A FUCKING BITCH FROGGEN
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LIIIIVE MAO
YES, REVENGE IS SWEET, kiel that dog froggen
omg not again, this time with oracles too this mao
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Olaf's ghost for a 2-2 exchange... meh, not worth it. :/
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These hooks are so baller.
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2 Abyssals for CLG? O.o I understand its a great item in and of itself for both cho and rumble, but I find it a little weird that they'd both get one.
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All these undecided teamfights. Impressed with wolves to force that fight to BARELY their favor when they're still behind.
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Damn, this game is growing better and better as it draws toward the end.
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okay I'm starting to really dislike this "delete" and "remove" when talking about kills.
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"Very near full builds", eh.
*Glances at Maokai's double gp5+aegis, or Zyra's sorcs/guise/double gp5.*
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lol wolves soo impatient
well clg ftw haha
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The hell would you initiate like that as Olaf, ult+shurelya to run at.. Cho'Gath. Oo Corki had the ledge to valk over anyway.
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Was there something I didn't see? To me it looked like as if Olaf snapped and charged in at a more or less random moment.
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That's how it looked to me too.
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I guess he got bored of the standoff. CLG eu is like the most patient team ever, they'll happily wait a couple of days before doing anything
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On November 24 2012 03:49 sylverfyre wrote:
All these undecided teamfights. Impressed with wolves to force that fight to BARELY their favor when they're still behind.
Well CLG has Lee Sin. That easily makes up for being 5k gold behind.
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I don't like these casters, already putting the match into CLG's hands, again and again telling us. They had like 10% lead in gold all the time, thats not a huge deal.
Anyways, that tank Olaf melted SOOOO fcking fast :O
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2 random engage from the Wolves, guess they get annoyed by CLG.EU play style.
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Who is better, CLG EU or CLG NA?
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On November 24 2012 04:08 rhs408 wrote:
Who is better, CLG EU or CLG NA?
EU by far.
Wolves looks pretty good especially given that maokai was deadmeat that diana did a good job given the circumstances, more patience and not letting maokai die like that and they could match them
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On November 24 2012 04:07 Caphe wrote:
2 random engage from the Wolves, guess they get annoyed by CLG.EU play style.
Bot was pushing with open inhibitor. Wolves had to engage or concede baron.
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On November 24 2012 04:11 Redox wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2012 04:07 Caphe wrote:
2 random engage from the Wolves, guess they get annoyed by CLG.EU play style. Bot was pushing with open inhibitor. Wolves had to engage or concede baron.
Nah, the first one is total random. The second I can somewhat understand, still they put up a good fight against a better team with so much more LAN experience.
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On November 24 2012 04:12 Caphe wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2012 04:11 Redox wrote:On November 24 2012 04:07 Caphe wrote:
2 random engage from the Wolves, guess they get annoyed by CLG.EU play style. Bot was pushing with open inhibitor. Wolves had to engage or concede baron. Nah, the first one is total random. The second I can somewhat understand, still they put up a good fight against a better team with so much more LAN experience.
Of course I was talking only about the second one. Didnt get the first one either.
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interesting team for wolves. Curious how Katarina top will work out
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lol Froggen
omg dem skillshots
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OMG froggen blind skillshot kill np
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6 gp5 to 1 for CLG, they'll close up any gold gap rather fast but for now that's a lot of "non-combat" stats.
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Aww. Nice try by Corki, but cleanse won't work on Unstoppable Force and he flashed too late.
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Very low farm game. Constant skirmishes, pretty exciting
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Loving the brutal lasering from Froggen.
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On November 24 2012 04:39 Argoth. wrote:
Very low farm game. Constant skirmishes, pretty exciting
Which suits CLG as they have tons of gold items.
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With a Deathcap, that lazor will be insane.
Edit: How the fuck does froggen time his E so incredibly well. Makes me a sad panda to see how much I suck compared to that.
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I just noticed that the Wolves have no exhaust. Once they won't be able to execute people anymore that'll bite them in the ass.
@above low farm game with gp5 on CLG would benefit the Wolves more if they used their superior gold in actual combat stats to force objectives and win fights. But as long as they don't damage to take global gold like drakes/towers, or force and win fights then yeah it's not a low game farm it's just a dragging game, which benefits the gp5 holding (and better scaling) team.
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Can they hear the casters? They all lined up the lvl 1 boots after the casters noticed it
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This is getting ridiculous now, 3 times in around Zyra die with the same style...wtf. Even Merc didn't help her.
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Wolves need an Aegis so badly. Froggen is just killing whoever he wants with his burst off of just one bind.
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Just noticed Lulu goes Q>W>E, is it because she's supposed to be played offensively, so E is only a setup for a sure Q and you don't bother with the shield?
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So, this support is catching a lot of "you are now dead" skillshots, in both game. Game 1 it was grabs, now it's light binding. A - build more than just HOG for hp if you're getting 100-0'd B - stop playing catch?
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That Zyra will have nightmares of bright laser beams...
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On November 24 2012 04:53 Alaric wrote:
Just noticed Lulu goes Q>W>E, is it because she's supposed to be played offensively, so E is only a setup for a sure Q and you don't bother with the shield?
That's the idea. Q is so good for both damage and catch/slow power. W reduced CD lets you use the speedboost/bunny at the beginning of a fight, and again at the end.
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Stream's starting to lag. And thanks for the Lulu bit. Is she a trading (hit EQ -> W the carry and bash him in the head) or rather a poke (Q them to death) champ?
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PEW PEW PEW nerf Froggen pls thx
on the other side of the world, in Seoul South Korea, Rapidstar just wet his pants seeing those lasers
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So fucking good. Froggen OP carrying so hard.
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Fuk Froggen king of skillshot champs.!!!
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Froggens skill shots are just on another level.
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I just realised that Froggen got an Oracle's, seems rather satisfied with his items.
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I always wanted to use this picture lol :d
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oh man Wickd is facetanking 2 turrets and corki and takes no dmg hahaha
GG CLG.EU XD
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WTF was that clip with HotshottGG and SV pls. I don't even.
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This song about Jax, and the previous about Brand was hilarious. Where can i find these (or similar)?
Also, Wolves really good, no wonder that guy from Curse wanted to meet them.
Also, Rachel now looks like one of my coworker (except that she is black), which is a good sign.
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Gotta say dreamhack really knows how to fill their downtime, definitely better than shit like MLG where it's a crowdshot with bad music saying we'll be right back (30-60minutes)
ON a side note, I thought Yellowstar rejoined Fnatic, but Rekkles has been playing for fnatic for quite some time now. I guess he didnt rejoin?
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On November 24 2012 05:09 shinarit wrote:
This song about Jax, and the previous about Brand was hilarious. Where can i find these (or similar)?
Also, Wolves really good, no wonder that guy from Curse wanted to meet them.
Also, Rachel now looks like one of my coworker (except that she is black), which is a good sign.
I believe it's Badministrator on youtube or something? Not really a fan of most of those rapping songs, both the melody and the lyrics, but some are rather good.
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On November 24 2012 05:10 AsnSensation wrote:
Gotta say dreamhack really knows how to fill their downtime, definitely better than shit like MLG where it's a crowdshot with bad music saying we'll be right back (30-60minutes)
ON a side note, I thought Yellowstar rejoined Fnatic, but Rekkles has been playing for fnatic for quite some time now. I guess he didnt rejoin?
Yeah Yellowstar didnt join them. Read something that he wants to focus on studies and doesnt really commit to LoL.
And this Rekkles guy is looking fantastic so far. Might become permanent Fnatic member.
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On November 24 2012 05:28 Redox wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2012 05:10 AsnSensation wrote:
Gotta say dreamhack really knows how to fill their downtime, definitely better than shit like MLG where it's a crowdshot with bad music saying we'll be right back (30-60minutes)
ON a side note, I thought Yellowstar rejoined Fnatic, but Rekkles has been playing for fnatic for quite some time now. I guess he didnt rejoin? Yeah Yellowstar didnt join them. Read something that he wants to focus on studies and doesnt really commit to LoL. And this Rekkles guy is looking fantastic so far. Might become permanent Fnatic member.
Rekkles is too young to play in Riot's Season 3 stuff (he's 16, minimum age is 17) so I doubt any team would pick him up. Really a shame though since he's so crazy good
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On November 24 2012 05:32 LasTLiE wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2012 05:28 Redox wrote:On November 24 2012 05:10 AsnSensation wrote:
Gotta say dreamhack really knows how to fill their downtime, definitely better than shit like MLG where it's a crowdshot with bad music saying we'll be right back (30-60minutes)
ON a side note, I thought Yellowstar rejoined Fnatic, but Rekkles has been playing for fnatic for quite some time now. I guess he didnt rejoin? Yeah Yellowstar didnt join them. Read something that he wants to focus on studies and doesnt really commit to LoL. And this Rekkles guy is looking fantastic so far. Might become permanent Fnatic member. Rekkles is too young to play in Riot's Season 3 stuff (he's 16, minimum age is 17) so I doubt any team would pick him up. Really a shame though since he's so crazy good
Damn thats a bummer.
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yeah rekkles is crazy good, just read somewhere else as well, that he can't play s3 because he's so young but it's probably better for him to finish high school l0l.
looking forward to the finals xpeke vs Froggen should be interesting
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meh i wait for finals but i feel clg.eu will just roll over fnatic(much like ww), they are not even the best eu team they just happened to have better games today and play vs a team which used to beat them every single time they played against each other
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Wow, warwick. That's a surprise.
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Interesting to see the different philosophies of the supports. CLG.eu has a gold lead from the start due to the increased starting gold.
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On November 24 2012 06:51 JBright wrote:
Interesting to see the different philosophies of the supports. CLG.eu has a gold lead from the start due to the increased starting gold.
Esp. since krepo doesn't tend to get it.
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On November 24 2012 06:19 kongoline wrote:
meh i wait for finals but i feel clg.eu will just roll over fnatic(much like ww), they are not even the best eu team they just happened to have better games today and play vs a team which used to beat them every single time they played against each other
I dont agree. I believe if Fnatic gets a good AD carry (and they have one at the moment) they are a contender for being number 3 in Europe.
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Very nice FB for fnatic
Dat triple...... Krepo might need to learn how to count.. lol
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CYANIDE SO SICK HOLY SHIT.
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Krepo has been pretty poor this whole tournament, yikes.
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... wow. That clutch shield, I expected a 1-0 or 1-1, and bam, triple kill.
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On November 24 2012 06:56 Amethyst21 wrote:
Krepo has been pretty poor this whole tournament, yikes.
You missed his godhand.
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On November 24 2012 06:56 Amethyst21 wrote:
Krepo has been pretty poor this whole tournament, yikes.
Thats not true at all. He has had some really good games. Vs Jree's team and the semi finals he played good.
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Leeee Singaaah, Froggen gotta make some tf plays now to get his team back into this. and yeah Krepo had maybe one Blitz game he was good, rest was pretty meh, he's probably drunk haha
actually now that i think about it krepo only had 2 terrible leona games but I guess those terrible ults stuck in my head.
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HOLY SHIT A WW* IN PRO PLAY
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On November 24 2012 06:58 Dusty wrote:
HOLY SHIT A WW* IN PRO PLAY
its lane ww
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I didn't understand how he thought he could get a suicide on the tower though.
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On November 24 2012 06:58 Dusty wrote:
HOLY SHIT A WW* IN PRO PLAY
But what about the secret OP ignite, flash jungle warwick at IEM.
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this is relevant
Mitch Voorspoels @SkumbagKrepo
fnatic harry:" When we win a tournament Cyanide will get twitter." Expect him here early 2015
cyanida beasting his heart out with da lee singah :D
also it's kinda funny to see WW in proplay, his ult is still so sweet.
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Wow, that 1v2 fight was actually pretty close for Corki.
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It feels like for every time clg.eu does something to throw themselves back in fnatic immediately does something to reset their lead.
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On November 24 2012 07:07 Fusilero wrote:
It feels like for every time clg.eu does something to throw themselves back in fnatic immediately does something to reset their lead.
Like that Dragon.
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Saint's smite hand was here.
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On November 24 2012 07:08 Xacez wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2012 07:07 Fusilero wrote:
It feels like for every time clg.eu does something to throw themselves back in fnatic immediately does something to reset their lead. Like that Dragon.
OFC THAT HAPPENS WHEN I FINISH TYPING THAT CURSE YOU YELLOWPETE.
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Snoopeh died because of a popup. Really.
Something like that should never ever happen in a pro tournament, let alone in a final.
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On November 24 2012 07:09 Redox wrote:
Snoopeh died because of a popup. Really.
Something like that should never ever happen in a pro tournament, let alone in a final.
Something popped up on his computer? o_O How?
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Is it me or did the crows only applaud CLG's whatever-they-did (rather than plays) and none of what their opponents did? I only joined for the semi-finals but that's the impression I got.
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That glitterlance... lmfao
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Haha, Scumbagkrepo denies Lee the kill :p
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On November 24 2012 07:11 Zergneedsfood wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2012 07:09 Redox wrote:
Snoopeh died because of a popup. Really.
Something like that should never ever happen in a pro tournament, let alone in a final. Something popped up on his computer? o_O How?
Teamspeak or something like that I guess.
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What a fail.
"Hey we only see half of CLG and they've set up a Maokai ult, let's split up and fight in the middle of it!"
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WTF suddenly clg has the goldlead
also Kreeepo redeming himself with a sick play, outplayed bro
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Step 1: Say someone is playing bad
Step 2: Be proven right in one play
Step 3: Be proven wrong in every other play.
Krepo making the plays on dat Lulu
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On November 24 2012 07:12 Alaric wrote:
What a fail.
"Hey we only see half of CLG and they've set up a Maokai ult, let's split up and fight in the middle of it!"
Could soaz have ulted someone else? Surely there could have been better targets than lulu.
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On November 24 2012 07:13 Fusilero wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2012 07:12 Alaric wrote:
What a fail.
"Hey we only see half of CLG and they've set up a Maokai ult, let's split up and fight in the middle of it!" Could soaz have ulted someone else? Surely there could have been better targets than lulu.
doesnt lulu ult interrupt ww ult?
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On November 24 2012 07:13 Fusilero wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2012 07:12 Alaric wrote:
What a fail.
"Hey we only see half of CLG and they've set up a Maokai ult, let's split up and fight in the middle of it!" Could soaz have ulted someone else? Surely there could have been better targets than lulu.
Lulu-ult fucks his ult up.
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On November 24 2012 07:14 Antyee wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2012 07:13 Fusilero wrote:On November 24 2012 07:12 Alaric wrote:
What a fail.
"Hey we only see half of CLG and they've set up a Maokai ult, let's split up and fight in the middle of it!" Could soaz have ulted someone else? Surely there could have been better targets than lulu. Lulu-ult fucks his ult up.
Did not know that, I haven't encountered a warwick in urm.... god knows how long.
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Can't listen to Quikshot, not sure why but I find his casting extremely irritating.
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CLG shows them they're sitting on a ward. They still stay to get ult'd by Malph.
Ugh. That decision making the last fights has been so bad. x_x
I mean, I don't want to be Fnatic-bashing, but if they keep it like that CLG's just causing to crush them, which makes the 15 minutes snoozefest that'll we be treated with in that case all but appealing. SO I want Fnatic to at least avoid that so we get exciting games. :[
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On November 24 2012 07:15 Dan HH wrote:
Can't listen to Quikshot, not sure why but I find his casting extremely irritating.
Sounds like he tries too hard.
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Not sure if you guys know, but HSGG is commentating on this game on his stream. Just open both streams and mute the DH stream, he has the DH audio as well.
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On November 24 2012 07:16 Zergneedsfood wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2012 07:15 Dan HH wrote:
Can't listen to Quikshot, not sure why but I find his casting extremely irritating. Sounds like he tries too hard.
From a stranger I guess it would sound like that but I used to play Cod with him and that's just how he is. He's just a guy that gets super excited and loud.
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On November 24 2012 07:16 Koenig99 wrote:
Not sure if you guys know, but HSGG is commentating on this game on his stream. Just open both streams and mute the DH stream, he has the DH audio as well.
His commentary is basically "Big malphite gg no re"
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The only thing I like about wickd's malph is that he can perfectly do his job of ulting on the squishies and annoy the hell out of them while froggen and pete have a good time doing their damage.
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On November 24 2012 07:24 Antyee wrote:
The only thing I like about wickd's malph is that he can perfectly do his job of ulting on the squishies and annoy the hell out of them while froggen and pete have a good time doing their damage.
Isn't that all he is supposed to do?
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Wicked is just too good !
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Both CLG tanks on lifesupport after that fight, but they take it and baron.
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On November 24 2012 07:26 scarper65 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2012 07:24 Antyee wrote:
The only thing I like about wickd's malph is that he can perfectly do his job of ulting on the squishies and annoy the hell out of them while froggen and pete have a good time doing their damage. Isn't that all he is supposed to do?
He lanes too recklessly especially earlygame, which sometimes gets him way too behind. Same applies to his Rumble.
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On November 24 2012 07:24 Antyee wrote:
The only thing I like about wickd's malph is that he can perfectly do his job of ulting on the squishies and annoy the hell out of them while froggen and pete have a good time doing their damage.
not sure what you mean by " the only thing" because I can't think of much else a tanky 4k hp malphiteis supposed to do. Wickd's malph is so beast that he even earned the Doublelift stamp of approval.
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Why does nrated have a warmogs O.o
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Lee Sin has been absolutely useless in comparison to Maokai since about 25 minutes into the game. It got fNatic ahead early in the game but it hasn't been able to carry through :/
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GL touching malphite, warmogs, Randuins, FoN sunfire
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froggen making the plays lol
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That crowd is so biaised toward CLG it's starting to tire me.
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Jep, ace a team, that is 13k up and has baron buff with enough health left to push for inhibs... right...
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On November 24 2012 07:36 Alaric wrote:
That crowd is so biaised toward CLG it's starting to tire me.
Whats the problem with that? Audience bias in sport is normal and in my opinion a good thing.
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clg just executes teamfights better.
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very good first game for a grand finals
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Fnatic started with such a huge advantage and CLG.eu managed to win convincingly. I don't have much hope that Fnatic can win game 2...
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Holy shit, Lulu ult saving Yellowpete, and there go Fnatic's hopes.
@Redox: it annoys me because we never hear anything even when Fnatic actually makes a beautiful play, while the singlest, simplest, tiniest thing from CLG ("hey look, there haven't been somebody bot for 30+ seconds, yellowpete walked there with the big wave and took the last 200 hp of the outer tower") is met with cheers and applauds that you'd only hear for big plays in "normal" games.
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On November 24 2012 07:40 AsnSensation wrote:
very good first game for a grand finals
On November 24 2012 07:40 Morfildur wrote:
Fnatic started with such a huge advantage and CLG.eu managed to win convincingly. I don't have much hope that Fnatic can win game 2...
On November 24 2012 07:39 RouaF wrote:
clg just executes teamfights better.
This is nice in this order Also, Fnatic was good, but CLG just outplayed them.
On November 24 2012 07:38 Redox wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2012 07:36 Alaric wrote:
That crowd is so biaised toward CLG it's starting to tire me. Whats the problem with that? Audience bias in sport is normal and in my opinion a good thing.
This is true. If it would be unbiased that would mean no real emotions there, just clapping your hands because its polite. Bias is a natural consequence of these stuff.
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Malphite ban by Fnatic. Good choice, I felt like they couldn't handle the hard engage from Wicked in the last game.
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On November 24 2012 07:52 BlueSpace wrote:
Malphite ban by Fnatic. Good choice, I felt like they couldn't handle the hard engage from Wicked in the last game.
Now it's Wickd on Irelia, i'm not sure Fnatic really thought about what they got themselves into now.
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fnatic's comp looks really scary, but not early game oriented and we know how teams fare when they plan to go lategame vs clg.eu :D
Diana E into amumu+Zyra ult sounds really scary though
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Wow...Froggen suicides, baits Jax's flash as well.
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On November 24 2012 07:51 shinarit wrote:
This is true. If it would be unbiased that would mean no real emotions there, just clapping your hands because its polite. Bias is a natural consequence of these stuff.
There's a difference between cheering for your favorite but recognizing good plays from their opponents too, and getting excited over the most insignificant stuff as long as it's done by your favorite and ignoring everything the other does, even when it's beautiful.
I dunno, as I've seen the crowd acting till now, I wouldn't even be surprised if they stayed silent and apathetic if Fnatic won by crushing CLG with beautiful play (won't happen, but imagine it). That's basic respect to acknowledge when somebody played well. I don't like CLG.eu's playstyle and the borefest they create, but I don't deny them that it's effective, nor do I go all "feh!" when they actually move their asses and do something beautiful.
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firstblood for wickd on irelia, that lane's over
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Silence too strong, no leap for Jax and fb.
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On November 24 2012 07:54 Morfildur wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2012 07:52 BlueSpace wrote:
Malphite ban by Fnatic. Good choice, I felt like they couldn't handle the hard engage from Wicked in the last game. Now it's Wickd on Irelia, i'm not sure Fnatic really thought about what they got themselves into now.
Ok I take it all back... the way this is going, they should have just given Wicked malph again X)
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Uh... not worth it. Diana's flash and assist gold in exchange for a kill.
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That reaction for Diana. Thats my CLG
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On November 24 2012 08:01 Alaric wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2012 07:51 shinarit wrote:
This is true. If it would be unbiased that would mean no real emotions there, just clapping your hands because its polite. Bias is a natural consequence of these stuff. There's a difference between cheering for your favorite but recognizing good plays from their opponents too, and getting excited over the most insignificant stuff as long as it's done by your favorite and ignoring everything the other does, even when it's beautiful. I dunno, as I've seen the crowd acting till now, I wouldn't even be surprised if they stayed silent and apathetic if Fnatic won by crushing CLG with beautiful play (won't happen, but imagine it). That's basic respect to acknowledge when somebody played well. I don't like CLG.eu's playstyle and the borefest they create, but I don't deny them that it's effective, nor do I go all "feh!" when they actually move their asses and do something beautiful.
People have favourites and won't cheer if their favourites get defeated.
It's normal and happens in every sport in the world.
The opponents can be the best team in the world, if they play against the crowd favourite, they are the "villains".
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Tis a good day to be a Snoopeh fan.
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I'm trying to figure out what diana was thinking and I just can't do it
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and yellowpete steals the drake ... again ... against a jungler with smite ...
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On November 24 2012 08:03 BlueSpace wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2012 07:54 Morfildur wrote:On November 24 2012 07:52 BlueSpace wrote:
Malphite ban by Fnatic. Good choice, I felt like they couldn't handle the hard engage from Wicked in the last game. Now it's Wickd on Irelia, i'm not sure Fnatic really thought about what they got themselves into now. Ok I take it all back... the way this is going, they should have just given Wicked malph again X)
Giving Wickd Irelia is like giving Froggen Anivia, you just don't do it. If you make that mistake, you are in a world of pain.
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On November 24 2012 08:13 scarper65 wrote:
I'm trying to figure out what diana was thinking and I just can't do it
Weaker teams are always desperate to show off rather than play solid. It's like the flash-trade a full hp diana for a near dead corki + assists.
Cyanide has failed 2 smites now this game, should have been able to take Snoopeh's blue earlier as well.
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On November 24 2012 08:14 TheLink wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2012 08:13 scarper65 wrote:
I'm trying to figure out what diana was thinking and I just can't do it Weaker teams are always desperate to show off rather than play solid. It's like the flash-trade a full hp diana for a near dead corki + assists. Cyanide has failed 2 smites now this game, should have been able to take Snoopeh's blue earlier as well.
and last game drake was stolen by ezreal ulti when he was on LEESIN .... Q+smite combo ? :/
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No matter what Fnactic doing, towers, baron, kills, whatever, CLG just farms like a beast. It was the same in game 1. It looked like CLG is a bit stomped, but they never got too far down on gold, and they got up eventually. M5 did this style a while ago, CLG always played from behind. What happened?
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Looks like wickd has stopped going that "damage/attack speed" irelia. Guess the throw vs Nasus was enough :D
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Xpeke diana is such a beast :O.
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Wow, Fnatic straight up beat CLG in even mid-game team fights. Never thought I'd see the day. Diana is doing so much damage. :S
EDIT: awesome.
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Kind of frustrates me watching Zyra and Diana. I personally have a lot of issues with these two champions.
BUT FUCK ALL THAT CAUSE CLG/EU JUST DEFENDED
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... wow, wtf. I was about to say "is it the same Fnatic?" and now that happens.
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This game just got interesting.
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Some terrible decision making by Fnatic, they can actually lose this now.
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Oh yeah Zyra's plants damage gonna be huge with that void staff, as long as she can keep them up, now that she's level 18. ôo
Ah no she's 15. 360p ftw.
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''If these teams make a mistake, it could mean the game'' These commentators are on a roll
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Considering all 5 people on Fnatic use AP why wouldn't Zyra buy WotA if she wanted an AP item? seems better than void staff at least...
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Why is that zyra building void staff? Anyone explain? Is the % mpen better than straight up dcap for damage?
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Her plants deal around 160 damage per attack now. A void staff means she's gonna hurt, even as a support, whoever gets caught by them.
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Someone explain what clg screwed in the teamfights, please.
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On November 24 2012 08:36 Alaric wrote:
Her plants deal around 160 damage per attack now. A void staff means she's gonna hurt, even as a support, whoever gets caught by them.
Plants scale with magic penetration but not AP then? Honest question.
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% MPen is pretty huge when there's 100+ MR on your opponents and void staff costs only 2.2k.
That zhonya on zyra did some real work though.
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Wickd didnt do anything there. Also they were behind quite a bit before that fight.
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On November 24 2012 08:36 shinarit wrote:
Someone explain what clg screwed in the teamfights, please.
wickd died for free (talking about the last one)
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On November 24 2012 08:36 shinarit wrote:
Someone explain what clg screwed in the teamfights, please.
Their team didnt have a ton of teamfight presence - everyone on fnatic except for ezreal was packing some huge aoe CC, compared to TF Irelia blitz mostly being single target, and cho's AOE CC's are nothing compared to Amumu and Zyra ultis. In several fights Amumu and Zyra ultis were CCing 4 or 5 people.
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Zhonya's is pretty dubious but considering nRated got hooked somewhere in the vicinity of a million times that game I suppose that justifies it.
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On November 24 2012 08:37 Serelitz wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2012 08:36 Alaric wrote:
Her plants deal around 160 damage per attack now. A void staff means she's gonna hurt, even as a support, whoever gets caught by them. Plants scale with magic penetration but not AP then? Honest question.
Magic Damage [Plants]: 26 + (6 × level) + (+ 20% AP)
With such high base damage and support gold, penetration is a lot more effective than AP. That's why some go Haunting Guise on Zyra too: penetration to increase her damage, and HP for tankiness.
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On November 24 2012 08:36 shinarit wrote:
Someone explain what clg screwed in the teamfights, please.
Their teamcomp was inferior in straight up 5sv5 teamfights - TF and Blitz versus Amumu/Jax/Zyra/Diana.
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On November 24 2012 08:40 sylverfyre wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2012 08:36 shinarit wrote:
Someone explain what clg screwed in the teamfights, please. Their team didnt have a ton of teamfight presence - everyone on fnatic except for ezreal was packing some huge aoe CC, compared to TF Irelia blitz mostly being single target, and cho's AOE CC's are nothing compared to Amumu and Zyra ultis. In several fights Amumu and Zyra ultis were CCing 4 or 5 people.
I do think squishies in the front line + AoE cc is pretty under-rated in this game (at least at a low level). Once you get past the mentality of "tanks and squishies" and start thinking "front line and back line" you can pull off some pretty cool stuff. Diana got to blow up Froggen every fight purely because everyone was moving around to dodge Zyra/Amumu ults. It's like the insane Morgana + Vayne combo.
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On November 24 2012 08:40 Alaric wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2012 08:37 Serelitz wrote:On November 24 2012 08:36 Alaric wrote:
Her plants deal around 160 damage per attack now. A void staff means she's gonna hurt, even as a support, whoever gets caught by them. Plants scale with magic penetration but not AP then? Honest question. Magic Damage [Plants]: 26 + (6 × level) + (+ 20% AP) With such high base damage and support gold, penetration is a lot more effective than AP. That's why some go Haunting Guise on Zyra too: penetration to increase her damage, and HP for tankiness.
Okay ty! I'll definitely think about it some more. Zyra support is still a bit underexplored for me and I really want to learn her.
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Do it fast, I think she's gonna get a nerf soon
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On November 24 2012 08:37 Serelitz wrote:
Plants scale with magic penetration but not AP then? Honest question.
All magic damage scales with mpen. Lately top level ap mids have been moving away from classical dc build to more of utility build of zhonias, abyssal and other magic pen items.
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On November 24 2012 08:46 OutlaW- wrote:
Do it fast, I think she's gonna get a nerf soon
Yeah I've been thinking the same but what exactly? E mana cost + plant base dmg I guess but unless they destroy her she'll still be pretty viable I think.
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I didn't know what to expect from this tournament but this is developing into an extremely exciting match. These comps are good too, can't wait to see this final game!
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I like the Lee Sin pick against Karthus. Kick is a great counter play to displace Karthus before the passive kicks in.
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From what I got, Zyra's plants are basically 0 AD turrets with a "add AP magic damage to your attacks" as a on-hit, and they have that formulae AP. They also apply Rylai and Spellvamp (diminished effects for both).
I ranted a lot after Zyra's release because the plants alone dealt enough damage to kill a squishy champion in the late game if he stayed more than 3-4s in their range (depending on AS), it got reduced to 50% for each plant after the first attacking the same champion, but it's still high enough to outdamage any support (and most support junglers) once Zyra reaches higher levels, even without AP.
I call Fnatic losing this, they won't be able to acquire a big enough lead, and even if they do they won't be able to exploit it.
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Uh, Xin's knock-up interrupted Lee's knock-back. x)
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Uh oh, with such a mobile team comp Fnatic can probably snowball this pretty hard.
Come on Snoopeh!
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3k at 9 minutes. This is bad
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Krepo absolutely soulreading nRated with these grabs
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Well Soaz that was bad. :[
I was thinking "hm, Lee ult for Amumu ult, good trade", then he died anyway.
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How did Jax killed Amumu after Amumu's ult? Its overlapping animations? The others seemed to be frozen already when Jax made the AA.
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What was CLG doing there? They had a 5 on 4 but somehow managed to give up 2 kills AND dragon.
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On November 24 2012 09:09 shinarit wrote:
How did Jax killed Amumu after Amumu's ult? Its overlapping animations? The others seemed to be frozen already when Jax made the AA.
Amumu ult is only a snare, not a stun, you can still attack inside.
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On November 24 2012 09:09 Jaksiel wrote:
What was CLG doing there? They had a 5 on 4 but somehow managed to give up 2 kills AND dragon.
Froggen decided to leave.
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So... late game CLG's team is going to crush Fnatic.
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It's not a CLG EU final if there are no pauses involved.
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On November 24 2012 09:10 Antyee wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2012 09:09 Jaksiel wrote:
What was CLG doing there? They had a 5 on 4 but somehow managed to give up 2 kills AND dragon. Froggen decided to leave.
Yeah that was so strange. Must have been total miscommunication.
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Regardless if they win or not, I'm excited to see fnatic back as one of the top tier European teams (yes they were always good but they were eclipsed recently by Curse.eu and Eclypsia)
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On November 24 2012 09:10 Chrispy wrote:
So... late game CLG's team is going to crush Fnatic.
Indeed, but I doubt it will get to late game. All 3 outer turrets are down already and a massive gold lead...
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On November 24 2012 09:10 TheLink wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2012 09:09 shinarit wrote:
How did Jax killed Amumu after Amumu's ult? Its overlapping animations? The others seemed to be frozen already when Jax made the AA. Amumu ult is only a snare, not a stun, you can still attack inside.
No you can't. It specifically says so.
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On November 24 2012 09:12 nxk wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2012 09:10 Chrispy wrote:
So... late game CLG's team is going to crush Fnatic. Indeed, but I doubt it will get to late game. All 3 outer turrets are down already and a massive gold lead...
You do realize they are playing vs CLG.eu...
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On November 24 2012 09:12 nxk wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2012 09:10 Chrispy wrote:
So... late game CLG's team is going to crush Fnatic. Indeed, but I doubt it will get to late game. All 3 outer turrets are down already and a massive gold lead...
Do you emember CLG v WE at s2 finals? They come back from 11-1 with no towers.
CLG turtle best turtle.
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Czech Republic11293 Posts
On November 24 2012 09:10 TheLink wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2012 09:09 shinarit wrote:
How did Jax killed Amumu after Amumu's ult? Its overlapping animations? The others seemed to be frozen already when Jax made the AA. Amumu ult is only a snare, not a stun, you can still attack inside.
Amumu ult is a snare and disarm. You can still cast spells, can't autoattack though.
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On November 24 2012 09:12 nxk wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2012 09:10 Chrispy wrote:
So... late game CLG's team is going to crush Fnatic. Indeed, but I doubt it will get to late game. All 3 outer turrets are down already and a massive gold lead...
If there is one thing CLG.EU can do it is stall to late game.
Edit: Oh man, that CC stacking was sick. CLG could barely move.
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Poor Snoopeh's only level 8, that's gonna hurt for him.
Zyra going Abyssal this time? I'm thinking Locket could actually be useful this game against so much AoE damage, but since the others dive while she stays back I'm not sure if she'd ever be able to use it well.
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Snoopeh y u suicide D: you had survived that!
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Snoopeh blowing his ulti when he's dead is rather bad. Even if he comes back now they can't really fight.
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On November 24 2012 09:19 Alaric wrote:
Snoopeh y u suicide D: you had survived that!
No, he was ignited and going to die. He wasn't expecting the heal from teammate but he thought he was going to die so why not do some damage.
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The lack of armour on CLG.EU is rather odd. I get that Jax is mixed and Ez does a fair amount of magic but still
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I still think Fnatic "wander through the jungle alone and see who we find" solo-queue style is going to get them fucked against M5/TSM and the Koreans. Not a fan.
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Knowing fanatic's state i thought it will be a walkover for clg, but this is turning out to be exciting.
Also, commentator says "i dont think clg can come back" LoL. Dont tempt fate.
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Just get that void staff going on karthus and a bit of armor and clg will roll imo.
edit: nvm, its over more probably.
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On November 24 2012 09:24 TheLink wrote:
I still think Fnatic "wander through the jungle alone and see who we find" solo-queue style is going to get them fucked against M5/TSM and the Koreans. Not a fan.
dude tsm cant even beat average NA teams and they get stomped by clg.eu what makes u think they can beat fnatic LOL
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Why did Rekkles buy IE and not BT after TF? Would have been a clean ace here if he had BT...
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On November 24 2012 09:25 shinarit wrote:
Knowing fanatic's state i thought it will be a walkover for clg, but this is turning out to be exciting.
Also, commentator says "i dont think clg can come back" LoL. Dont tempt fate.
err
fnatic have been pretty strong in the past couple of weeks >_>
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United Kingdom50293 Posts
Yeaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh fnatic <3 soaz and xpeke.
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gg! fnatic is so good right now
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Wow. That was a complete stomp. I really need to learn Lee Sin, the guy seems like a lot of fun and really powerful early/mid game
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United States37500 Posts
Wow, congrats Fnatic.
EU is so unstable, for a lack of a better word.
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wp fantic they have been playing well coming up to dreamhack and then bootcamped aswell
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Well, congrats to Fnatic anyway, I remember them being a cool couple of guys on their streams so props.
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Snoopeh's build lost this game. 3 GP5s and Sorc shoes at 20+ mins? He got melted before every teamfight, too overconfident in his team's ability to stall for lategame.
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well played lee sin im impressed
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Does mid lee sin level his q first? That might explain why his damage is absurd when I try to gank him mid.
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gg fnatic playing really good in g2+3
also snoopeh proving again that he's not flexible at all, insisting on his triple gp/5 build into sorc shoes lol -.- everyone on clg except for Froggen maybe should have gotten tabis and nobody build any armor except for Wickd's early doran's shield until 25minutes into the game when snoopeh grabbed chainwest, but that was too late alrdy
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On November 24 2012 08:54 Alaric wrote:
I call Fnatic losing this, they won't be able to acquire a big enough lead, and even if they do they won't be able to exploit it.
I shall eat my words (And a chocolate bar. I'm hungry.).
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fnatic is cool even as clg.eu fan im happy for them
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Vancouver14381 Posts
gg Fnatic. It's too bad CLG.eu lost, I like them. But then I remind myself that they have the CLG brand and don't feel that bad
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gg Fnatic, really done their homework!
I just love it when team shake up the meta a bit. GG.
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gg fnatic. krepo is a sad panda
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All the soloQ practice for Froggen paid off.
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On November 24 2012 09:29 AsnSensation wrote:
gg fnatic playing really good in g2+3
Yep, impressive play in the last 2 games!
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Wickd and Snoopeh breaking Froggen's back, no idea why they let him play rumble or why snoopeh had no defense at all against triple bruiser lineup for the first 25 minutes. Lee should not be able to 3shot him with just brut and hexdrinker.
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Doesn't Sweden use euro as their currency? I thought so.
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On November 24 2012 09:31 Sufficiency wrote:
All the soloQ practice for Froggen paid off.
Not sure what the hell you are talking about but Froggen was playing beastly like usual all tournament long, even in the grand final.
Snoopeh and Krepo were the inconsistent people for clg.eu this time.
Also XMG giving fnativ gaming laptops in front of clg.eu is kinda hilarious considering that they are a clg sponsor.
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On November 24 2012 09:30 JBright wrote:gg Fnatic. It's too bad CLG.eu lost, I like them. But then I remind myself that they have the CLG brand and don't feel that bad
Also, CLG.eu kinda needs that loss because it shows them that they actually have to practice. They didnt do any real practice sessions since s2 finals.
And it was well deserved by Fnatic. I was holding them in high regard for quite some time.
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I blame it on yellowpete.
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On November 24 2012 09:33 Alaric wrote:
Doesn't Sweden use euro as their currency? I thought so.
Nope
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Happy to see Fnatic playing well.
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Wow, that Mordekaiser song's pretty good. Catchy rythm.
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United States37500 Posts
Recommend me some SSS and Wolves games plz gaiz.
I only watched G2-3 of the Finals for DH. lol
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The semi finals were good. Showed that the wolves definitely have potential as a team.
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United States37500 Posts
On November 24 2012 09:56 Alaric wrote:
The semi finals were good. Showed that the wolves definitely have potential as a team.
More potential than SSS?
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I only saw the second semi-finals and the finals today so I wouldn't be able to tell you, missed all of SSS matches. :<
The one thing I retain is that their name is apparently unpronounceable.
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On November 24 2012 10:00 NeoIllusions wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2012 09:56 Alaric wrote:
The semi finals were good. Showed that the wolves definitely have potential as a team. More potential than SSS?
I don't think SSS is a real team. From what I read on Reddit, their players just banded together for this event because they all live in Sweden.
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SSS games were really one sided iirc.
The second more than the first, but the second was kinda fun due to the pics from SSS. I hope i'm not mistaken with another game tho. I'll quickly check that.
Yeah, semi final game 1 Fnatic vs SSS if you want a "close" game. Game 2 if you want to see some unusual picks.
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United States37500 Posts
On November 24 2012 10:20 Jaksiel wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2012 10:00 NeoIllusions wrote:On November 24 2012 09:56 Alaric wrote:
The semi finals were good. Showed that the wolves definitely have potential as a team. More potential than SSS? I don't think SSS is a real team. From what I read on Reddit, their players just banded together for this event because they all live in Sweden.
lol TIL.
Pretty important if that's the case.
Thanks all for your quick comments. Off to watch some games~
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On November 24 2012 10:27 NeoIllusions wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2012 10:20 Jaksiel wrote:On November 24 2012 10:00 NeoIllusions wrote:On November 24 2012 09:56 Alaric wrote:
The semi finals were good. Showed that the wolves definitely have potential as a team. More potential than SSS? I don't think SSS is a real team. From what I read on Reddit, their players just banded together for this event because they all live in Sweden. lol TIL. Pretty important if that's the case. Thanks all for your quick comments. Off to watch some games~
Yea SSS isn't really a real team. Kottenx is on Alternate. And he also formed a dreamhack only team for the summer one too.
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clg eu 2nd place again T_T, when is the last time they got 1st?
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On November 24 2012 10:57 justiceknight wrote:
clg eu 2nd place again T_T, when is the last time they got 1st?
2 weeks ago?
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United States37500 Posts
On November 24 2012 10:57 justiceknight wrote:
clg eu 2nd place again T_T, when is the last time they got 1st?
lol, earlier this month? Lone Star Clash 2.
If you don't count that, then before that it was DreamHack Summer.
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That game with CLG and Curse in the semis was so weird. Towers going down at 4 minutes and a half and lots of bindings on zyra.
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Korea (South)11232 Posts
I like the new thing that Supports get dmg items instead of only supportitems.
Started a while ago but now its becoming more mainstream.
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If I were asked to rate teams by their lineups I'd say Fnatic would have lost. IMO bruisers hate Karthus because he does so much damage to people who stay in his defile range. Rumble also does well against melees and offers a lot of splash for those bruisers that come in close. Corki offers kiting ability to wear down bruisers if the game goes late.
I was happily surprised by Fnatic's early game coordination. They knew they could do baron at 18 minutes. They knew TF's ult was down.
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Gratulation Fnatic ...
Ps: FNATICCCC 4 EVERRRRRR!!!!
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3 Lions
United States3705 Posts
Looks like fnatic's bootcamp/gaming house paid off, congrats to them :D
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On November 24 2012 14:06 obesechicken13 wrote:
If I were asked to rate teams by their lineups I'd say Fnatic would have lost. IMO bruisers hate Karthus because he does so much damage to people who stay in his defile range. Rumble also does well against melees and offers a lot of splash for those bruisers that come in close. Corki offers kiting ability to wear down bruisers if the game goes late.
I was happily surprised by Fnatic's early game coordination. They knew they could do baron at 18 minutes. They knew TF's ult was down.
Honestly I disagree. By late game bruisers have lots of mr and hp and are able to kill karthus without sustaining a lot of damage. It helps that clg eu had 90% magic dmg as corki literally deals more magic+true dmg than physical lolz (until later i guess)
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On November 24 2012 15:48 3 Lions wrote:
Looks like fnatic's bootcamp/gaming house paid off, congrats to them :D
Peke pretty much said in the post finals interview that they'd practiced this exact scenario and it really showed. I still think CLGeu generally has an edge over Fnatic; but this time, Fnatic spent their practice time focusing on winning a tournament rather than general practice. I like it.
They've improved so much since they figured out that they need to get their practice regiment going. I was sad when Shushei was kicked, but thinking back he would never have done this teamhouse/bootcamp thing. He's like Ocelote with the personality/streamer thing he's got going and I guess Fnatic made the right call to hunker down and get awesome good through practice.
I'm guessing this is also a major reason why Lamia retired, he wanted to other things than LoL and that's just not viable if you want to be a top team.
Again, wp Fnatic.
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On November 24 2012 09:33 AsnSensation wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2012 09:31 Sufficiency wrote:
All the soloQ practice for Froggen paid off. Not sure what the hell you are talking about but Froggen was playing beastly like usual all tournament long, even in the grand final. Snoopeh and Krepo were the inconsistent people for clg.eu this time. Also XMG giving fnativ gaming laptops in front of clg.eu is kinda hilarious considering that they are a clg sponsor.
This time ? CLG.eu is heavily carried by froggen and wickd it's not even funny. Yellowpete doesn't make flashy plays but he never really fails either. Krepo is always bad, he's very consistent.
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On November 24 2012 16:22 OutlaW- wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2012 14:06 obesechicken13 wrote:
If I were asked to rate teams by their lineups I'd say Fnatic would have lost. IMO bruisers hate Karthus because he does so much damage to people who stay in his defile range. Rumble also does well against melees and offers a lot of splash for those bruisers that come in close. Corki offers kiting ability to wear down bruisers if the game goes late.
I was happily surprised by Fnatic's early game coordination. They knew they could do baron at 18 minutes. They knew TF's ult was down. Honestly I disagree. By late game bruisers have lots of mr and hp and are able to kill karthus without sustaining a lot of damage. It helps that clg eu had 90% magic dmg as corki literally deals more magic+true dmg than physical lolz (until later i guess)
I also think that CLG.eu didn't know Fnatic played the trip bruiser strat. Bruiser mid generally will destroy a Karthus. Jax/Lee/Xin can just pop Karthus and survive his damage with good resists. That and CLG.eu haven't fully refined how to play with TF in their squad yet. They made some good plays with TF, but some engages where he ulted in were a bit off, especially the ones where Fnatic's AD+AP get bursted by Froggen diving on them with ult, but their bruiser and jungle survives and mop up.
Very interesting finals though, and Fnatic showing that they are at the top of EU competition again. Good times ahead in EU with Eclypsia, CLG.eu, M5, Crs.EU, Fnatic, etc. Loads of high performing teams atm.
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Jree is already in another team i think its gonna be announced soon.
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