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AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-04 10:12:17
November 04 2012 10:08 GMT
#3081
While I think Banshee's was the correct item choice vs Malphite/Sona/Mao I think people already forgot how Snoopeh threw a no scope sapling to pop it right before the final fight like a boss. Also I was half asleep at 4am while watching the games but just realized that Hotshot sold his lategame(lol) hexdrinker for an atmas. n/c really

From Doublelifts twitter:

"I splitpushed correctly" HotShotGg

Also hilarious, Dyrus claims Reginals missed 60cs because their computers only had like 60 fps
reddit investigators were quick to find that he streams with 60fps LoL

NA PLS

edit:btw Never going to pay 15$ premium for a mlg weekend again btw, several good games off stream, tons of lag and delay, still contemplating if I'll demand for a refund after this mess. With a 5$ monthly ipl subscription big lans like ipl5 are included and mlg wants 15 bucks for 3 days
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
November 04 2012 10:16 GMT
#3082
On November 04 2012 19:08 AsnSensation wrote:
While I think Banshee's was the correct item choice vs Malphite/Sona/Mao I think people already forgot how Snoopeh threw a no scope sapling to pop it right before the final fight like a boss. Also I was half asleep at 4am while watching the games but just realized that Hotshot sold his lategame(lol) hexdrinker for an atmas. n/c really

From Doublelifts twitter:

"I splitpushed correctly" HotShotGg

Also hilarious, Dyrus claims Reginals missed 60cs because their computers only had like 60 fps
reddit investigators were quick to find that he streams with 60fps LoL

NA PLS

edit:btw Never going to pay 15$ premium for a mlg weekend again btw, several good games off stream, tons of lag and delay, still contemplating if I'll demand for a refund after this mess. With a 5$ monthly ipl subscription big lans like ipl5 are included and mlg wants 15 bucks for 3 days

Was it 15 bucks for 3 days? O.o. I paid 20 bucks for MLG subscription for an entire year....?!
liftlift > tsm
sharky246
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
1197 Posts
November 04 2012 10:20 GMT
#3083
On November 04 2012 14:32 overt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2012 14:08 sharky246 wrote:
On November 04 2012 13:19 TheYango wrote:
On November 04 2012 13:10 StUfF wrote:
Everyone's on a break after WC, no one cares for the small prize pool at MLG and any hardcore practicing is not very useful with the incoming Season 3 changes.

So let me get this straight:

They don't try new things and generally improve during the season because they need to stick to reliable stuff to win events.

They don't try new things and generally improve during the off-season because they have no motivation at small events.

Seems like grade-A bullshit/procrastination to me.

The whole concept of cramming all your practice before an event rather than treating progaming as a regular full-year-round job is why NA teams suck.


But they are treating it as a full-year-round job. Otherwise, why would they have a gaming house? Also, they put a halt on school or work for this, clearly it's more than just cramming the night before.


They don't treat improving as a full time job. They stream as a full time job. Their problem is that they believe that solo queue plus lots of scrims before tournaments is appropriate practice.

It isn't. Korean teams and Chinese teams are scrimming constantly between events not just a week or two before.


What's wrong with solo queue? Froggen uses it as practice, and he is pretty good. Good as in comparable to the best in the world.
On January 03 2011 13:14 IdrA wrote: being high on the ladder doesnt get you any closer to your goal. Avoiding practice to protect your rating is absurd. If you want to be good go play 40 games a day and stop thinking about becoming a pro.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
November 04 2012 10:23 GMT
#3084
+ Show Spoiler +
On November 04 2012 19:16 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2012 19:08 AsnSensation wrote:
While I think Banshee's was the correct item choice vs Malphite/Sona/Mao I think people already forgot how Snoopeh threw a no scope sapling to pop it right before the final fight like a boss. Also I was half asleep at 4am while watching the games but just realized that Hotshot sold his lategame(lol) hexdrinker for an atmas. n/c really

From Doublelifts twitter:

"I splitpushed correctly" HotShotGg

Also hilarious, Dyrus claims Reginals missed 60cs because their computers only had like 60 fps
reddit investigators were quick to find that he streams with 60fps LoL

NA PLS

edit:btw Never going to pay 15$ premium for a mlg weekend again btw, several good games off stream, tons of lag and delay, still contemplating if I'll demand for a refund after this mess. With a 5$ monthly ipl subscription big lans like ipl5 are included and mlg wants 15 bucks for 3 days

Was it 15 bucks for 3 days? O.o. I paid 20 bucks for MLG subscription for an entire year....?!

What did you buy? wasnt gold membership alone like 30 bucks monthly but yeah HD and no ads for this event is 15 bucks
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
November 04 2012 10:28 GMT
#3085
On November 04 2012 19:23 AsnSensation wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On November 04 2012 19:16 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2012 19:08 AsnSensation wrote:
While I think Banshee's was the correct item choice vs Malphite/Sona/Mao I think people already forgot how Snoopeh threw a no scope sapling to pop it right before the final fight like a boss. Also I was half asleep at 4am while watching the games but just realized that Hotshot sold his lategame(lol) hexdrinker for an atmas. n/c really

From Doublelifts twitter:

"I splitpushed correctly" HotShotGg

Also hilarious, Dyrus claims Reginals missed 60cs because their computers only had like 60 fps
reddit investigators were quick to find that he streams with 60fps LoL

NA PLS

edit:btw Never going to pay 15$ premium for a mlg weekend again btw, several good games off stream, tons of lag and delay, still contemplating if I'll demand for a refund after this mess. With a 5$ monthly ipl subscription big lans like ipl5 are included and mlg wants 15 bucks for 3 days

Was it 15 bucks for 3 days? O.o. I paid 20 bucks for MLG subscription for an entire year....?!

What did you buy? wasnt gold membership alone like 30 bucks monthly but yeah HD and no ads for this event is 15 bucks

It was the gold member ship, i purchased it last december, it was like 20-25 bucks? I don't remember exactly.
liftlift > tsm
Feartheguru
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1334 Posts
November 04 2012 10:47 GMT
#3086
On November 04 2012 14:32 overt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2012 14:08 sharky246 wrote:
On November 04 2012 13:19 TheYango wrote:
On November 04 2012 13:10 StUfF wrote:
Everyone's on a break after WC, no one cares for the small prize pool at MLG and any hardcore practicing is not very useful with the incoming Season 3 changes.

So let me get this straight:

They don't try new things and generally improve during the season because they need to stick to reliable stuff to win events.

They don't try new things and generally improve during the off-season because they have no motivation at small events.

Seems like grade-A bullshit/procrastination to me.

The whole concept of cramming all your practice before an event rather than treating progaming as a regular full-year-round job is why NA teams suck.


But they are treating it as a full-year-round job. Otherwise, why would they have a gaming house? Also, they put a halt on school or work for this, clearly it's more than just cramming the night before.


They don't treat improving as a full time job. They stream as a full time job. Their problem is that they believe that solo queue plus lots of scrims before tournaments is appropriate practice.

It isn't. Korean teams and Chinese teams are scrimming constantly between events not just a week or two before.


The purpose of a job is ultimately to make money. If their net return from a smaller amount of tournament wins + stream revenue is greater than what they can get from more tournament wins then it's the right strategy for them.
Don't sweat the petty stuff, don't pet the sweaty stuff.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
November 04 2012 10:50 GMT
#3087
On November 04 2012 19:47 Feartheguru wrote:
The purpose of a job is ultimately to make money. If their net return from a smaller amount of tournament wins + stream revenue is greater than what they can get from more tournament wins then it's the right strategy for them.

That's fine, but it should also mean that people need to stop justifying them and making excuses.

They're not good because it's not the most financially practical option for them, simple as that. No need for any other excuses.
Moderator
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
November 04 2012 10:50 GMT
#3088
Guys, I really need to know, is there going to be like a rebroadcast and/or VoDs that one could watch for free?
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
November 04 2012 10:52 GMT
#3089
On November 04 2012 19:50 Scip wrote:
Guys, I really need to know, is there going to be like a rebroadcast and/or VoDs that one could watch for free?

There generally is a rebroadcast for MLG IIRC. Not sure when they'll air it.
Moderator
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
November 04 2012 11:35 GMT
#3090
On November 04 2012 19:50 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2012 19:47 Feartheguru wrote:
The purpose of a job is ultimately to make money. If their net return from a smaller amount of tournament wins + stream revenue is greater than what they can get from more tournament wins then it's the right strategy for them.

That's fine, but it should also mean that people need to stop justifying them and making excuses.

They're not good because it's not the most financially practical option for them, simple as that. No need for any other excuses.


They're still good, just not Korean level goodness.

Better than you, you might say.
Hey! How you doin'?
ArcticFox
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1092 Posts
November 04 2012 11:57 GMT
#3091
On November 04 2012 20:35 Zdrastochye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2012 19:50 TheYango wrote:
On November 04 2012 19:47 Feartheguru wrote:
The purpose of a job is ultimately to make money. If their net return from a smaller amount of tournament wins + stream revenue is greater than what they can get from more tournament wins then it's the right strategy for them.

That's fine, but it should also mean that people need to stop justifying them and making excuses.

They're not good because it's not the most financially practical option for them, simple as that. No need for any other excuses.


They're still good, just not Korean level goodness.

Better than you, you might say.

By all rights, every member of the Charlotte Bobcats is better than me at basketball, but they're still an awful team compared to everyone else getting paid to play.

Perspective, please. Until they have some real results again, they deserve the criticism they're getting.
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-04 12:18:01
November 04 2012 12:17 GMT
#3092
On November 04 2012 19:50 Scip wrote:
Guys, I really need to know, is there going to be like a rebroadcast and/or VoDs that one could watch for free?


own3d has VoDs up on the mlg channel
Celial
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
2602 Posts
November 04 2012 12:18 GMT
#3093
On November 04 2012 19:50 Scip wrote:
Guys, I really need to know, is there going to be like a rebroadcast and/or VoDs that one could watch for free?

Same as yesterday mang. http://www.own3d.tv/MLGLoL has all the VoDs.
Do not regret. Always forward, never back.
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
November 04 2012 13:41 GMT
#3094
On November 04 2012 20:57 ArcticFox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2012 20:35 Zdrastochye wrote:
On November 04 2012 19:50 TheYango wrote:
On November 04 2012 19:47 Feartheguru wrote:
The purpose of a job is ultimately to make money. If their net return from a smaller amount of tournament wins + stream revenue is greater than what they can get from more tournament wins then it's the right strategy for them.

That's fine, but it should also mean that people need to stop justifying them and making excuses.

They're not good because it's not the most financially practical option for them, simple as that. No need for any other excuses.


They're still good, just not Korean level goodness.

Better than you, you might say.

By all rights, every member of the Charlotte Bobcats is better than me at basketball, but they're still an awful team compared to everyone else getting paid to play.

Perspective, please. Until they have some real results again, they deserve the criticism they're getting.


Bad is a relative term, was all I was getting at. I have no problems with the NA teams getting rolled, they're still living in mansions for the time being.
Hey! How you doin'?
gyth
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
657 Posts
November 04 2012 14:17 GMT
#3095
What does the one team per region mean for frost/blaze?
Will it hurt asian practice enough to level the playing field? (was that the point??)
The plural of anecdote is not data.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
November 04 2012 14:20 GMT
#3096
championship series will only happen in europe and NA so far, korea will keep running OGn so the azubu/Najin/Mvp teams dont have to drop their teams
Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9251 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-04 15:48:47
November 04 2012 15:48 GMT
#3097
lol @ every NA team complaining about not having who to scrim against. As if Korean teams were all the same level from the get-go. They don't seem to get the memo that you don't necessarily need a scrim partner that is better than you from the start to get better yourself. If TSM were to grind against Curse 5 hours every day you can bet they would build each other up eventually.
snowbird
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Germany2044 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-04 16:13:25
November 04 2012 16:12 GMT
#3098
anyone know when the next matches are going to start?

edit: nvm, info is in op
@riotsnowbird
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
November 04 2012 16:14 GMT
#3099
On November 04 2012 20:57 ArcticFox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2012 20:35 Zdrastochye wrote:
On November 04 2012 19:50 TheYango wrote:
On November 04 2012 19:47 Feartheguru wrote:
The purpose of a job is ultimately to make money. If their net return from a smaller amount of tournament wins + stream revenue is greater than what they can get from more tournament wins then it's the right strategy for them.

That's fine, but it should also mean that people need to stop justifying them and making excuses.

They're not good because it's not the most financially practical option for them, simple as that. No need for any other excuses.


They're still good, just not Korean level goodness.

Better than you, you might say.

By all rights, every member of the Charlotte Bobcats is better than me at basketball, but they're still an awful team compared to everyone else getting paid to play.

Perspective, please. Until they have some real results again, they deserve the criticism they're getting.

Somebody has to be the worst professional team, that's just the way it works. Sometimes these tiers happen to be structured by region. Look at the US when it comes to soccer, we just don't have the talent to keep up with most of the European teams that take soccer much more seriously. Lack of practice plays a role, but there's also a lack of raw talent. Same thing with LoL. They have more time and a better sense for the game than we do. Still, the pro players are still pro for a reason because in NA they are better than most people.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
November 04 2012 16:21 GMT
#3100
On November 05 2012 01:14 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2012 20:57 ArcticFox wrote:
On November 04 2012 20:35 Zdrastochye wrote:
On November 04 2012 19:50 TheYango wrote:
On November 04 2012 19:47 Feartheguru wrote:
The purpose of a job is ultimately to make money. If their net return from a smaller amount of tournament wins + stream revenue is greater than what they can get from more tournament wins then it's the right strategy for them.

That's fine, but it should also mean that people need to stop justifying them and making excuses.

They're not good because it's not the most financially practical option for them, simple as that. No need for any other excuses.


They're still good, just not Korean level goodness.

Better than you, you might say.

By all rights, every member of the Charlotte Bobcats is better than me at basketball, but they're still an awful team compared to everyone else getting paid to play.

Perspective, please. Until they have some real results again, they deserve the criticism they're getting.

Somebody has to be the worst professional team, that's just the way it works. Sometimes these tiers happen to be structured by region. Look at the US when it comes to soccer, we just don't have the talent to keep up with most of the European teams that take soccer much more seriously. Lack of practice plays a role, but there's also a lack of raw talent. Same thing with LoL. They have more time and a better sense for the game than we do. Still, the pro players are still pro for a reason because in NA they are better than most people.

Well, it's not always because they're strictly better. You can see more than a handful of people who solo queue, stream, or even post here on these forums that are skilled enough to beat the pro players they beat rather consistently. However, going pro is a decision in and of itself, one that not every great player will make. Be it time, obligations, or just not wanting to deal with the pressure, the life isn't for everyone.

But yes, better than most people, but it's not always "pros are the most skilled in a region".
It's your boy Guzma!
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