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While I think Banshee's was the correct item choice vs Malphite/Sona/Mao I think people already forgot how Snoopeh threw a no scope sapling to pop it right before the final fight like a boss. Also I was half asleep at 4am while watching the games but just realized that Hotshot sold his lategame(lol) hexdrinker for an atmas. n/c really
From Doublelifts twitter:
"I splitpushed correctly" HotShotGg
Also hilarious, Dyrus claims Reginals missed 60cs because their computers only had like 60 fps
reddit investigators were quick to find that he streams with 60fps LoL
NA PLS
edit:btw Never going to pay 15$ premium for a mlg weekend again btw, several good games off stream, tons of lag and delay, still contemplating if I'll demand for a refund after this mess. With a 5$ monthly ipl subscription big lans like ipl5 are included and mlg wants 15 bucks for 3 days
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On November 04 2012 19:08 AsnSensation wrote:
While I think Banshee's was the correct item choice vs Malphite/Sona/Mao I think people already forgot how Snoopeh threw a no scope sapling to pop it right before the final fight like a boss. Also I was half asleep at 4am while watching the games but just realized that Hotshot sold his lategame(lol) hexdrinker for an atmas. n/c really
From Doublelifts twitter:
"I splitpushed correctly" HotShotGg
Also hilarious, Dyrus claims Reginals missed 60cs because their computers only had like 60 fps
reddit investigators were quick to find that he streams with 60fps LoL
NA PLS
edit:btw Never going to pay 15$ premium for a mlg weekend again btw, several good games off stream, tons of lag and delay, still contemplating if I'll demand for a refund after this mess. With a 5$ monthly ipl subscription big lans like ipl5 are included and mlg wants 15 bucks for 3 days
Was it 15 bucks for 3 days? O.o. I paid 20 bucks for MLG subscription for an entire year....?!
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On November 04 2012 14:32 overt wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2012 14:08 sharky246 wrote:On November 04 2012 13:19 TheYango wrote:On November 04 2012 13:10 StUfF wrote:
Everyone's on a break after WC, no one cares for the small prize pool at MLG and any hardcore practicing is not very useful with the incoming Season 3 changes. So let me get this straight: They don't try new things and generally improve during the season because they need to stick to reliable stuff to win events. They don't try new things and generally improve during the off-season because they have no motivation at small events. Seems like grade-A bullshit/procrastination to me. The whole concept of cramming all your practice before an event rather than treating progaming as a regular full-year-round job is why NA teams suck. But they are treating it as a full-year-round job. Otherwise, why would they have a gaming house? Also, they put a halt on school or work for this, clearly it's more than just cramming the night before. They don't treat improving as a full time job. They stream as a full time job. Their problem is that they believe that solo queue plus lots of scrims before tournaments is appropriate practice. It isn't. Korean teams and Chinese teams are scrimming constantly between events not just a week or two before.
What's wrong with solo queue? Froggen uses it as practice, and he is pretty good. Good as in comparable to the best in the world.
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+ Show Spoiler +On November 04 2012 19:16 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2012 19:08 AsnSensation wrote:
While I think Banshee's was the correct item choice vs Malphite/Sona/Mao I think people already forgot how Snoopeh threw a no scope sapling to pop it right before the final fight like a boss. Also I was half asleep at 4am while watching the games but just realized that Hotshot sold his lategame(lol) hexdrinker for an atmas. n/c really
From Doublelifts twitter:
"I splitpushed correctly" HotShotGg
Also hilarious, Dyrus claims Reginals missed 60cs because their computers only had like 60 fps
reddit investigators were quick to find that he streams with 60fps LoL
NA PLS
edit:btw Never going to pay 15$ premium for a mlg weekend again btw, several good games off stream, tons of lag and delay, still contemplating if I'll demand for a refund after this mess. With a 5$ monthly ipl subscription big lans like ipl5 are included and mlg wants 15 bucks for 3 days
Was it 15 bucks for 3 days? O.o. I paid 20 bucks for MLG subscription for an entire year....?!
What did you buy? wasnt gold membership alone like 30 bucks monthly but yeah HD and no ads for this event is 15 bucks
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On November 04 2012 19:23 AsnSensation wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On November 04 2012 19:16 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2012 19:08 AsnSensation wrote:
While I think Banshee's was the correct item choice vs Malphite/Sona/Mao I think people already forgot how Snoopeh threw a no scope sapling to pop it right before the final fight like a boss. Also I was half asleep at 4am while watching the games but just realized that Hotshot sold his lategame(lol) hexdrinker for an atmas. n/c really
From Doublelifts twitter:
"I splitpushed correctly" HotShotGg
Also hilarious, Dyrus claims Reginals missed 60cs because their computers only had like 60 fps
reddit investigators were quick to find that he streams with 60fps LoL
NA PLS
edit:btw Never going to pay 15$ premium for a mlg weekend again btw, several good games off stream, tons of lag and delay, still contemplating if I'll demand for a refund after this mess. With a 5$ monthly ipl subscription big lans like ipl5 are included and mlg wants 15 bucks for 3 days Was it 15 bucks for 3 days? O.o. I paid 20 bucks for MLG subscription for an entire year....?! What did you buy? wasnt gold membership alone like 30 bucks monthly but yeah HD and no ads for this event is 15 bucks
It was the gold member ship, i purchased it last december, it was like 20-25 bucks? I don't remember exactly.
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On November 04 2012 14:32 overt wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2012 14:08 sharky246 wrote:On November 04 2012 13:19 TheYango wrote:On November 04 2012 13:10 StUfF wrote:
Everyone's on a break after WC, no one cares for the small prize pool at MLG and any hardcore practicing is not very useful with the incoming Season 3 changes. So let me get this straight: They don't try new things and generally improve during the season because they need to stick to reliable stuff to win events. They don't try new things and generally improve during the off-season because they have no motivation at small events. Seems like grade-A bullshit/procrastination to me. The whole concept of cramming all your practice before an event rather than treating progaming as a regular full-year-round job is why NA teams suck. But they are treating it as a full-year-round job. Otherwise, why would they have a gaming house? Also, they put a halt on school or work for this, clearly it's more than just cramming the night before. They don't treat improving as a full time job. They stream as a full time job. Their problem is that they believe that solo queue plus lots of scrims before tournaments is appropriate practice. It isn't. Korean teams and Chinese teams are scrimming constantly between events not just a week or two before.
The purpose of a job is ultimately to make money. If their net return from a smaller amount of tournament wins + stream revenue is greater than what they can get from more tournament wins then it's the right strategy for them.
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On November 04 2012 19:47 Feartheguru wrote:
The purpose of a job is ultimately to make money. If their net return from a smaller amount of tournament wins + stream revenue is greater than what they can get from more tournament wins then it's the right strategy for them.
That's fine, but it should also mean that people need to stop justifying them and making excuses.
They're not good because it's not the most financially practical option for them, simple as that. No need for any other excuses.
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Guys, I really need to know, is there going to be like a rebroadcast and/or VoDs that one could watch for free?
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United States47024 Posts
On November 04 2012 19:50 Scip wrote:
Guys, I really need to know, is there going to be like a rebroadcast and/or VoDs that one could watch for free?
There generally is a rebroadcast for MLG IIRC. Not sure when they'll air it.
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On November 04 2012 19:50 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2012 19:47 Feartheguru wrote:
The purpose of a job is ultimately to make money. If their net return from a smaller amount of tournament wins + stream revenue is greater than what they can get from more tournament wins then it's the right strategy for them.
That's fine, but it should also mean that people need to stop justifying them and making excuses. They're not good because it's not the most financially practical option for them, simple as that. No need for any other excuses.
They're still good, just not Korean level goodness.
Better than you, you might say.
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On November 04 2012 20:35 Zdrastochye wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2012 19:50 TheYango wrote:On November 04 2012 19:47 Feartheguru wrote:
The purpose of a job is ultimately to make money. If their net return from a smaller amount of tournament wins + stream revenue is greater than what they can get from more tournament wins then it's the right strategy for them.
That's fine, but it should also mean that people need to stop justifying them and making excuses. They're not good because it's not the most financially practical option for them, simple as that. No need for any other excuses. They're still good, just not Korean level goodness. Better than you, you might say.
By all rights, every member of the Charlotte Bobcats is better than me at basketball, but they're still an awful team compared to everyone else getting paid to play.
Perspective, please. Until they have some real results again, they deserve the criticism they're getting.
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On November 04 2012 19:50 Scip wrote:
Guys, I really need to know, is there going to be like a rebroadcast and/or VoDs that one could watch for free?
own3d has VoDs up on the mlg channel
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On November 04 2012 19:50 Scip wrote:
Guys, I really need to know, is there going to be like a rebroadcast and/or VoDs that one could watch for free?
Same as yesterday mang. http://www.own3d.tv/MLGLoL has all the VoDs.
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On November 04 2012 20:57 ArcticFox wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2012 20:35 Zdrastochye wrote:On November 04 2012 19:50 TheYango wrote:On November 04 2012 19:47 Feartheguru wrote:
The purpose of a job is ultimately to make money. If their net return from a smaller amount of tournament wins + stream revenue is greater than what they can get from more tournament wins then it's the right strategy for them.
That's fine, but it should also mean that people need to stop justifying them and making excuses. They're not good because it's not the most financially practical option for them, simple as that. No need for any other excuses. They're still good, just not Korean level goodness. Better than you, you might say. By all rights, every member of the Charlotte Bobcats is better than me at basketball, but they're still an awful team compared to everyone else getting paid to play. Perspective, please. Until they have some real results again, they deserve the criticism they're getting.
Bad is a relative term, was all I was getting at. I have no problems with the NA teams getting rolled, they're still living in mansions for the time being.
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What does the one team per region mean for frost/blaze?
Will it hurt asian practice enough to level the playing field? (was that the point??)
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championship series will only happen in europe and NA so far, korea will keep running OGn so the azubu/Najin/Mvp teams dont have to drop their teams
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lol @ every NA team complaining about not having who to scrim against. As if Korean teams were all the same level from the get-go. They don't seem to get the memo that you don't necessarily need a scrim partner that is better than you from the start to get better yourself. If TSM were to grind against Curse 5 hours every day you can bet they would build each other up eventually.
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anyone know when the next matches are going to start?
edit: nvm, info is in op
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United States23745 Posts
On November 04 2012 20:57 ArcticFox wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2012 20:35 Zdrastochye wrote:On November 04 2012 19:50 TheYango wrote:On November 04 2012 19:47 Feartheguru wrote:
The purpose of a job is ultimately to make money. If their net return from a smaller amount of tournament wins + stream revenue is greater than what they can get from more tournament wins then it's the right strategy for them.
That's fine, but it should also mean that people need to stop justifying them and making excuses. They're not good because it's not the most financially practical option for them, simple as that. No need for any other excuses. They're still good, just not Korean level goodness. Better than you, you might say. By all rights, every member of the Charlotte Bobcats is better than me at basketball, but they're still an awful team compared to everyone else getting paid to play. Perspective, please. Until they have some real results again, they deserve the criticism they're getting.
Somebody has to be the worst professional team, that's just the way it works. Sometimes these tiers happen to be structured by region. Look at the US when it comes to soccer, we just don't have the talent to keep up with most of the European teams that take soccer much more seriously. Lack of practice plays a role, but there's also a lack of raw talent. Same thing with LoL. They have more time and a better sense for the game than we do. Still, the pro players are still pro for a reason because in NA they are better than most people.
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On November 05 2012 01:14 onlywonderboy wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2012 20:57 ArcticFox wrote:On November 04 2012 20:35 Zdrastochye wrote:On November 04 2012 19:50 TheYango wrote:On November 04 2012 19:47 Feartheguru wrote:
The purpose of a job is ultimately to make money. If their net return from a smaller amount of tournament wins + stream revenue is greater than what they can get from more tournament wins then it's the right strategy for them.
That's fine, but it should also mean that people need to stop justifying them and making excuses. They're not good because it's not the most financially practical option for them, simple as that. No need for any other excuses. They're still good, just not Korean level goodness. Better than you, you might say. By all rights, every member of the Charlotte Bobcats is better than me at basketball, but they're still an awful team compared to everyone else getting paid to play. Perspective, please. Until they have some real results again, they deserve the criticism they're getting. Somebody has to be the worst professional team, that's just the way it works. Sometimes these tiers happen to be structured by region. Look at the US when it comes to soccer, we just don't have the talent to keep up with most of the European teams that take soccer much more seriously. Lack of practice plays a role, but there's also a lack of raw talent. Same thing with LoL. They have more time and a better sense for the game than we do. Still, the pro players are still pro for a reason because in NA they are better than most people.
Well, it's not always because they're strictly better. You can see more than a handful of people who solo queue, stream, or even post here on these forums that are skilled enough to beat the pro players they beat rather consistently. However, going pro is a decision in and of itself, one that not every great player will make. Be it time, obligations, or just not wanting to deal with the pressure, the life isn't for everyone.
But yes, better than most people, but it's not always "pros are the most skilled in a region".
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