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On October 14 2012 23:42 Dandel Ion wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2012 23:38 Artok wrote:
Just watched the games, can any seasoned lol players tell me in what way is orianna balanced? ;O I think Riot sets champions around Rengar/Jayce levels of balance nowadays. In all seriousness, Orianna used to be balanced. But then Riot decided "hey, it's time to BUFF her", which didn't work out too well. I sure hope the s3 patches will fix that. They just need to revert the changes back to old Ori. Can't be that hard.
If you're referring to old Orianna who had the 900 range ball, lol no. She's in a much better state now, than she was a few months ago when it was not worth playing her for the higher skill cap but low returns compared to mages that did the job better with damage. (It still kinda is that way now if her team doesn't complement her utility) Toyz and the other AP mids that got to play her showcased how great Orianna is now. She only lost I think 1 game (CLG.eu/Azubu semi-final) out of the many games where she wasn't banned and ended up winning due to good synergy with team.
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On October 14 2012 21:08 Kavas wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2012 21:01 Yttrasil wrote:On October 14 2012 20:55 thezanursic wrote:On October 14 2012 17:01 wei2coolman wrote:On October 14 2012 16:59 fishinguy wrote:On October 14 2012 16:46 thezanursic wrote:
How many playeres were watching (peak) yesterday? I want to know this too, missed the games because they are so damn early for most Europeans... janook said 900k on the streams combined, not including china, or korean tv. Bullshit I don't believe it. If I were to make an educated guess it would be 400k not 900k. Can somebody actually tell me how much there were without spreading rumors. Eh? There were quite a bit above 500k on twitch and quite a bit above 250k on own3d or something like that from what I could see with my own eyes, also there was a chinese streaming site that shows numbers which had above 100k I think so 800k+ without that chinese stream, with 900k, with other streams with unknown viewer count surely 1000k, plus whatever tv etc. Sounds about right. Of course you never know how many of those 500k are from China. Now that I think about it, is own3d.tv and twitch.tv blocked in China like youtube as well?
Chinese have the QQ stream plus other restreams through PLU and GTV.
I ran a count of all the streams I could (twitch, own3d, Chinese flash streams listed on fengyunzhibo) between games 2 and 3 and got a total of ~830k. Including OGN and non-flash Chinese streams, the total count easily broke 1 million.
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Can someone give me a quick recap on what Stanley built on his Nidalee? Have not been able to find out.
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On October 15 2012 01:46 Leonite7 wrote:
Can someone give me a quick recap on what Stanley built on his Nidalee? Have not been able to find out.
the final build was chalice+spirit visage+wriggles+boots+GA+rageblade.
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Hi, here is a TPA fan from Taiwan. I've been following this thread since TPA started their games from the quarterfinals. I'd like to share some things about them to you guys.
First of all, there are two regions here in SEA (basically it's two LoL playing servers here). One includes Taiwan/HongKong/Macau, server host at Taiwan, and the other includes Singapore/Vietnam/Thailand/Malaysia/Philippine and other SEA countries. The two servers run by the company Garena (countries mentioned above have a branch company except the main is at Singapore). And there are 6 teams from these countries to participate in the Garena Premier League season 1. Hence it's 2 regions, there are TWO S2 qualifiers and TPA and SAJ advanced the championship series from each of their regionals. The fun fact is that TPA won their matchup against SAJ in one GPL match after both their regionals, and that match result (TPA won) actually decided the #1 seed for SEA region (we even didn't know what this #1 seed can get then).
About team captain MisTakE, sometimes we would see him making mechanical errors, although its not usually, but its more often than his teammates. About this, he's explained it that because of he's the main shotcaller for his team probably 90% of the time, so he doesn't do it good enough with handle both his champ and the whole map. The other thing about the quarterfinal, his played as Blitzcrank, but he always hooked Maknoon's Jax instead of his main target Maokai with an Oracle. In order they managed to advanced, so it's looked like a beautiful mistake for me though. 
About Lilballz, he used to be a more Snoopeh-type jungler. That is, mostly falling behind the enemy jungle in both levels and gold in even games. But from matches TPA showed in this tournament, they well improved their farm balance between jungler and Top/Mid lane carries. Also Ballz provided lots of lane pressures to the enemies and good countergank timing, way more better than he did in the previous online games. These really impressed me a lot. In the post game interview, he mentioned that he has been blamed by TPA fans in 6 months for those his stupid dives or didn't control map well enough etc. I really like his games in the championships. I personally give him most credits through the entire tournament.
The other 3 lane carries perform consistantly well as usual, once you can provide good jungle control and team communications, they can always carry you. Especially Stanley, he's the man can destroy the whole enemy team when he joins teamfights, undoubtiblely #1 top laner in our region. By the way, I really like Toyz' AP Ezreal in his solo queue games, really entertaining.
In the end, I'd like to let you know GarenaTW is forming another pro team (not officially anounced). Hope they can do well in the upcoming Season 3 LoL pro scene.
I forgot one thing. Bebe used to level his W first on his Vayne, but recently he likes to level his Q first even though he build PD as the first item. It seems more legit since competitive plays needs more movement in my opinion. And, his ingame name on NA server bebeisadog comes from his dog Bebe.
PS. my English is not that good, but I really want to share some points to you guys, hope you'll like it. and sorry for not telling all things I want to share, that's A LOT.
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Are there any highlight reels or top plays for the tourny?
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actually, your english is very good.
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On October 15 2012 02:00 xennitee wrote:Hi, here is a TPA fan from Taiwan. I've been following this thread since TPA started their games from the quarterfinals. I'd like to share some things about them to you guys. First of all, there are two regions here in SEA (basically it's two LoL playing servers here). One includes Taiwan/HongKong/Macau, server host at Taiwan, and the other includes Singapore/Vietnam/Thailand/Malaysia/Philippine and other SEA countries. The two servers run by the company Garena (countries mentioned above have a branch company except the main is at Singapore). And there are 6 teams from these countries to participate in the Garena Premier League season 1. Hence it's 2 regions, there are TWO S2 qualifiers and TPA and SAJ advanced the championship series from each of their regionals. The fun fact is that TPA won their matchup against SAJ in one GPL match after both their regionals, and that match result (TPA won) actually decided the #1 seed for SEA region (we even didn't know what this #1 seed can get then). About team captain MisTakE, sometimes we would see him making mechanical errors, although its not usually, but its more often than his teammates. About this, he's explained it that because of he's the main shotcaller for his team probably 90% of the time, so he doesn't do it good enough with handle both his champ and the whole map. The other thing about the quarterfinal, his played as Blitzcrank, but he always hooked Maknoon's Jax instead of his main target Maokai with an Oracle. In order they managed to advanced, so it's looked like a beautiful mistake for me though. About Lilballz, he used to be a more Snoopeh-type jungler. That is, mostly falling behind the enemy jungle in both levels and gold in even games. But from matches TPA showed in this tournament, they well improved their farm balance between jungler and Top/Mid lane carries. Also Ballz provided lots of lane pressures to the enemies and good countergank timing, way more better than he did in the previous online games. These really impressed me a lot. In the post game interview, he mentioned that he has been blamed by TPA fans in 6 months for those his stupid dives or didn't control map well enough etc. I really like his games in the championships. I personally give him most credits through the entire tournament. The other 3 lane carries perform consistantly well as usual, once you can provide good jungle control and team communications, they can always carry you. Especially Stanley, he's the man can destroy the whole enemy team when he joins teamfights, undoubtiblely #1 top laner in our region. By the way, I really like Toyz' AP Ezreal in his solo queue games, really entertaining. In the end, I'd like to let you know GarenaTW is forming another pro team (not officially anounced). Hope they can do well in the upcoming Season 3 LoL pro scene. I forgot one thing. Bebe used to level his W first on his Vayne, but recently he likes to level his Q first even though he build PD as the first item. It seems more legit since competitive plays needs more movement in my opinion. And, his ingame name on NA server bebeisadog comes from his dog Bebe. PS. my English is not that good, but I really want to share some points to you guys, hope you'll like it. and sorry for not telling all things I want to share, that's A LOT.
Your english is flawless.
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On October 15 2012 02:00 xennitee wrote:
About Lilballz, he used to be a more Snoopeh-type jungler. That is, mostly falling behind the enemy jungle in both levels and gold in even games. But from matches TPA showed in this tournament, they well improved their farm balance between jungler and Top/Mid lane carries. Also Ballz provided lots of lane pressures to the enemies and good countergank timing, way more better than he did in the previous online games. These really impressed me a lot. In the post game interview, he mentioned that he has been blamed by TPA fans in 6 months for those his stupid dives or didn't control map well enough etc. I really like his games in the championships. I personally give him most credits through the entire tournament.
I think this is a vast oversimplification that doesn't do Ballz' control of his own tempo/farming enough justice.
Snoopeh camps lanes. Ballz does not camp lanes. He ganks actively, but he does not camp. I think this is an important, and critical distinction when it comes to looking at jungler play here.
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Sooo.... Bebe is actually a dog.?
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On October 14 2012 20:55 thezanursic wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2012 17:01 wei2coolman wrote:On October 14 2012 16:59 fishinguy wrote:On October 14 2012 16:46 thezanursic wrote:
How many playeres were watching (peak) yesterday? I want to know this too, missed the games because they are so damn early for most Europeans... janook said 900k on the streams combined, not including china, or korean tv. Bullshit I don't believe it. If I were to make an educated guess it would be 400k not 900k. Can somebody actually tell me how much there were without spreading rumors.
I love you so much XD every single post you have regarding LoL is bashing the game.
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what's your taiwan IGN xennitee?
你如果需要翻译我可以帮你 ^^
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On October 15 2012 02:00 xennitee wrote:Hi, here is a TPA fan from Taiwan. I've been following this thread since TPA started their games from the quarterfinals. I'd like to share some things about them to you guys. First of all, there are two regions here in SEA (basically it's two LoL playing servers here). One includes Taiwan/HongKong/Macau, server host at Taiwan, and the other includes Singapore/Vietnam/Thailand/Malaysia/Philippine and other SEA countries. The two servers run by the company Garena (countries mentioned above have a branch company except the main is at Singapore). And there are 6 teams from these countries to participate in the Garena Premier League season 1. Hence it's 2 regions, there are TWO S2 qualifiers and TPA and SAJ advanced the championship series from each of their regionals. The fun fact is that TPA won their matchup against SAJ in one GPL match after both their regionals, and that match result (TPA won) actually decided the #1 seed for SEA region (we even didn't know what this #1 seed can get then). About team captain MisTakE, sometimes we would see him making mechanical errors, although its not usually, but its more often than his teammates. About this, he's explained it that because of he's the main shotcaller for his team probably 90% of the time, so he doesn't do it good enough with handle both his champ and the whole map. The other thing about the quarterfinal, his played as Blitzcrank, but he always hooked Maknoon's Jax instead of his main target Maokai with an Oracle. In order they managed to advanced, so it's looked like a beautiful mistake for me though. About Lilballz, he used to be a more Snoopeh-type jungler. That is, mostly falling behind the enemy jungle in both levels and gold in even games. But from matches TPA showed in this tournament, they well improved their farm balance between jungler and Top/Mid lane carries. Also Ballz provided lots of lane pressures to the enemies and good countergank timing, way more better than he did in the previous online games. These really impressed me a lot. In the post game interview, he mentioned that he has been blamed by TPA fans in 6 months for those his stupid dives or didn't control map well enough etc. I really like his games in the championships. I personally give him most credits through the entire tournament. The other 3 lane carries perform consistantly well as usual, once you can provide good jungle control and team communications, they can always carry you. Especially Stanley, he's the man can destroy the whole enemy team when he joins teamfights, undoubtiblely #1 top laner in our region. By the way, I really like Toyz' AP Ezreal in his solo queue games, really entertaining. In the end, I'd like to let you know GarenaTW is forming another pro team (not officially anounced). Hope they can do well in the upcoming Season 3 LoL pro scene. I forgot one thing. Bebe used to level his W first on his Vayne, but recently he likes to level his Q first even though he build PD as the first item. It seems more legit since competitive plays needs more movement in my opinion. And, his ingame name on NA server bebeisadog comes from his dog Bebe. PS. my English is not that good, but I really want to share some points to you guys, hope you'll like it. and sorry for not telling all things I want to share, that's A LOT.
I really really like Mistake, probably because I play a lot of support.
There was that quite funny moment in TPA vs. M5 (think it was game 2?) when they were doing a team fight on M5's 2nd top tower, in the middle of some intense shot-calling ("focus this, someone on m5 just used this ult") Mistake suddenly realized he was focused down and said "I'm dead", he seemed quite sad, then he found himself and resumed calling plays.
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On October 15 2012 01:51 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2012 01:46 Leonite7 wrote:
Can someone give me a quick recap on what Stanley built on his Nidalee? Have not been able to find out. the final build was chalice+spirit visage+wriggles+boots+GA+rageblade.
First game went doran's blade - chalice - wriggles - spirit visage - then phage I think?
Second game was chalice - spirit visage - GA - rageblade (there is a Trinity in there somewhere I think. Not sure if it was before or after GA)
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On October 15 2012 02:00 xennitee wrote:Hi, here is a TPA fan from Taiwan. I've been following this thread since TPA started their games from the quarterfinals. I'd like to share some things about them to you guys. First of all, there are two regions here in SEA (basically it's two LoL playing servers here). One includes Taiwan/HongKong/Macau, server host at Taiwan, and the other includes Singapore/Vietnam/Thailand/Malaysia/Philippine and other SEA countries. The two servers run by the company Garena (countries mentioned above have a branch company except the main is at Singapore). And there are 6 teams from these countries to participate in the Garena Premier League season 1. Hence it's 2 regions, there are TWO S2 qualifiers and TPA and SAJ advanced the championship series from each of their regionals. The fun fact is that TPA won their matchup against SAJ in one GPL match after both their regionals, and that match result (TPA won) actually decided the #1 seed for SEA region (we even didn't know what this #1 seed can get then). About team captain MisTakE, sometimes we would see him making mechanical errors, although its not usually, but its more often than his teammates. About this, he's explained it that because of he's the main shotcaller for his team probably 90% of the time, so he doesn't do it good enough with handle both his champ and the whole map. The other thing about the quarterfinal, his played as Blitzcrank, but he always hooked Maknoon's Jax instead of his main target Maokai with an Oracle. In order they managed to advanced, so it's looked like a beautiful mistake for me though. About Lilballz, he used to be a more Snoopeh-type jungler. That is, mostly falling behind the enemy jungle in both levels and gold in even games. But from matches TPA showed in this tournament, they well improved their farm balance between jungler and Top/Mid lane carries. Also Ballz provided lots of lane pressures to the enemies and good countergank timing, way more better than he did in the previous online games. These really impressed me a lot. In the post game interview, he mentioned that he has been blamed by TPA fans in 6 months for those his stupid dives or didn't control map well enough etc. I really like his games in the championships. I personally give him most credits through the entire tournament. The other 3 lane carries perform consistantly well as usual, once you can provide good jungle control and team communications, they can always carry you. Especially Stanley, he's the man can destroy the whole enemy team when he joins teamfights, undoubtiblely #1 top laner in our region. By the way, I really like Toyz' AP Ezreal in his solo queue games, really entertaining. In the end, I'd like to let you know GarenaTW is forming another pro team (not officially anounced). Hope they can do well in the upcoming Season 3 LoL pro scene. I forgot one thing. Bebe used to level his W first on his Vayne, but recently he likes to level his Q first even though he build PD as the first item. It seems more legit since competitive plays needs more movement in my opinion. And, his ingame name on NA server bebeisadog comes from his dog Bebe. PS. my English is not that good, but I really want to share some points to you guys, hope you'll like it. and sorry for not telling all things I want to share, that's A LOT.
Welcome to TL, post more, your English is pretty good and practice makes perfect.
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Among all these dicussions I'd like to say GG to Azubu and TPA.
I am more of a relaxed LoL player and only get on from time to time, but I very much enjoyed watching the finals yesterday.
Congrats to TPA! Also to Azubu, 2nd place is nothing to be ashamed of.
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GG to TPA, amazing games.
Karthus completely flipped game 1 or it would have been a 3-0 imo.
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On October 15 2012 03:35 SHOOG wrote:
Among all these dicussions I'd like to say GG to Azubu and TPA.
I am more of a relaxed LoL player and only get on from time to time, but I very much enjoyed watching the finals yesterday.
Congrats to TPA! Also to Azubu, 2nd place is nothing to be ashamed of.
Exactly, but I still felt really sorry for them when the camera showed how depressed they were sitting in their chairs. I mean, a few minutes later, TPA were announced like real boxers with fireworks and shit, entering the stage and enjoying the cheering croud. They take home double the money and after winning Korea OGN Tournament, going 3-0 in group stage and eliminating CLG.eu, being the champions would have been just the perfect ending of the season all around.
Not saying TPA don't deserve it (they obv. do), but 'hey we got 2nd, that's not too shabby either' is definitely not a final's loser first, second or even third thought after the game.
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so does anyone know where we can download the song from the finals? i wants.
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