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On August 27 2012 07:47 Node wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2012 07:42 Feartheguru wrote:
I don't KNOW there aren't aliens listening to my thoughts and using it to plot an invasion, that doesn't mean I'm gonna wear a tin foil hat. The way Dig played during the ARAM makes it obvious enough to ME that the money is getting split. So in my mind I KNOW they're splitting it. Obvious I don't have proof of it and don't care if other people believe otherwise. What a silly comparison. "I don't believe in conspiracy theories, so I believe in a conspiracy theory!"
ITT: I can't show him to be wrong so let's say a random one liner. That always wins arguments for me!
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On August 27 2012 07:44 SimulatedAnneal wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2012 07:40 snow2.0 wrote:On August 27 2012 07:35 Mementoss wrote:
What happened game 1 that everyone is talking about? Can someone give me a quick run down?
Also thanks for the other stream link works great. Rule 1 of this series: don't talk about game 1. Seriously though, it was funny how everybody loved the aram, including the viewers on the spot. Then they commented on how cool it was. Then they stopped talking about it in any specific terms. And finally they went all "that was not cool" in sort of emotionless voices. Jatt pretty clearly wanted no part of it while it was going on but didn't want to go all Joe Buck and bring down the energy of the stream.
Before i overcommit on "Jatt likes playing to the rules" statements: what has actually become of "Scumbag Jatt" and his Maphacks? Is he cleared?
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I dunno about the money spit thing mostly because in the grand scheme of things, 1.6K is just not that much money.
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Awesome play by West there. DUNKED.
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O god this crumbz top.
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He insisted on playing rumble for half the tournament, hitting probably 5% of his ults, lastgame singed he was just derping around zoning all the wrong people or teleporting in at 400hp (lololol), now this...
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On August 27 2012 07:49 beefhamburger wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2012 07:44 Feartheguru wrote:On August 27 2012 07:31 Aurdon wrote:On August 27 2012 07:28 Feartheguru wrote:
These games feel too much like a sham for me to enjoy, knowing the money is getting split kinda gives me a subconscious feeling the games don't mean anything, even though logically they are probably playing their best and as a viewer there's no real difference/. I don't think it was ever said they agreed to split the money. In fact, I do not think MLG would allow that if they found out that was the case. Did watch the game? It was so obvious they were joking around that the casters even said it, not as analysis but observation. If you're playing a tryhard match in ARAM setting for 1.6k I personally wouldn't suicide into the nexus rather than kill free nexus turrets, not sure about you. That's perfectly fine but don't think 1.6k means as much to them as it does for you. It's really not very much for them and I could very well see them throwing it away for fun if they wanted to. Top teams pass on smaller online tournaments ALL the time that have a 5k 1st place prize (1.6k each like here) just because it's not worth it to them when they can easily make comparably similar from streaming or prepping for a larger tournament. e.g. top EU teams consistently do this
Do you really think progamers are wealthy and they can afford to throw money away? Most of them make a fairly meager living, I'm not sure what gave people the impressions that progamers are swimming in cash and just don't care about 1600 bucks. Btw there aren't small online tournaments ALL the time with 5k first prizes. Can you name a couple for me?
On August 27 2012 07:53 AUGcodon wrote:
I dunno about the money spit thing mostly because in the grand scheme of things, 1.6K is just not that much money.
Totally true but most people I know when they have the choice to get 1.6k or not get 1.6k would opt to take it, it is that little you'd rather have a little more fun for a couple league games than get 1.6k?
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Watching Westrice on Darius is such good entertainment.
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Impress how good Westrice got since getting kicked off Epik.
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On August 27 2012 07:54 Feartheguru wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2012 07:49 beefhamburger wrote:On August 27 2012 07:44 Feartheguru wrote:On August 27 2012 07:31 Aurdon wrote:On August 27 2012 07:28 Feartheguru wrote:
These games feel too much like a sham for me to enjoy, knowing the money is getting split kinda gives me a subconscious feeling the games don't mean anything, even though logically they are probably playing their best and as a viewer there's no real difference/. I don't think it was ever said they agreed to split the money. In fact, I do not think MLG would allow that if they found out that was the case. Did watch the game? It was so obvious they were joking around that the casters even said it, not as analysis but observation. If you're playing a tryhard match in ARAM setting for 1.6k I personally wouldn't suicide into the nexus rather than kill free nexus turrets, not sure about you. That's perfectly fine but don't think 1.6k means as much to them as it does for you. It's really not very much for them and I could very well see them throwing it away for fun if they wanted to. Top teams pass on smaller online tournaments ALL the time that have a 5k 1st place prize (1.6k each like here) just because it's not worth it to them when they can easily make comparably similar from streaming or prepping for a larger tournament. e.g. top EU teams consistently do this Do you really think progamers are wealthy and they can afford to throw money away? Most of them make a fairly meager living, I'm not sure what gave people the impressions that progamers are swimming in cash and just don't care about 1600 bucks. Btw there aren't small online tournaments ALL the time with 5k first prizes. Can you name a couple for me?
You should just go make a thread about conspiracy theories in professional LoL.
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On August 27 2012 07:56 overt wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2012 07:54 Feartheguru wrote:On August 27 2012 07:49 beefhamburger wrote:On August 27 2012 07:44 Feartheguru wrote:On August 27 2012 07:31 Aurdon wrote:On August 27 2012 07:28 Feartheguru wrote:
These games feel too much like a sham for me to enjoy, knowing the money is getting split kinda gives me a subconscious feeling the games don't mean anything, even though logically they are probably playing their best and as a viewer there's no real difference/. I don't think it was ever said they agreed to split the money. In fact, I do not think MLG would allow that if they found out that was the case. Did watch the game? It was so obvious they were joking around that the casters even said it, not as analysis but observation. If you're playing a tryhard match in ARAM setting for 1.6k I personally wouldn't suicide into the nexus rather than kill free nexus turrets, not sure about you. That's perfectly fine but don't think 1.6k means as much to them as it does for you. It's really not very much for them and I could very well see them throwing it away for fun if they wanted to. Top teams pass on smaller online tournaments ALL the time that have a 5k 1st place prize (1.6k each like here) just because it's not worth it to them when they can easily make comparably similar from streaming or prepping for a larger tournament. e.g. top EU teams consistently do this Do you really think progamers are wealthy and they can afford to throw money away? Most of them make a fairly meager living, I'm not sure what gave people the impressions that progamers are swimming in cash and just don't care about 1600 bucks. Btw there aren't small online tournaments ALL the time with 5k first prizes. Can you name a couple for me? You should just go make a thread about conspiracy theories in professional LoL.
You should just go make a thread about... nvm don't make the forums worse.
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On August 27 2012 07:54 Feartheguru wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2012 07:49 beefhamburger wrote:On August 27 2012 07:44 Feartheguru wrote:On August 27 2012 07:31 Aurdon wrote:On August 27 2012 07:28 Feartheguru wrote:
These games feel too much like a sham for me to enjoy, knowing the money is getting split kinda gives me a subconscious feeling the games don't mean anything, even though logically they are probably playing their best and as a viewer there's no real difference/. I don't think it was ever said they agreed to split the money. In fact, I do not think MLG would allow that if they found out that was the case. Did watch the game? It was so obvious they were joking around that the casters even said it, not as analysis but observation. If you're playing a tryhard match in ARAM setting for 1.6k I personally wouldn't suicide into the nexus rather than kill free nexus turrets, not sure about you. That's perfectly fine but don't think 1.6k means as much to them as it does for you. It's really not very much for them and I could very well see them throwing it away for fun if they wanted to. Top teams pass on smaller online tournaments ALL the time that have a 5k 1st place prize (1.6k each like here) just because it's not worth it to them when they can easily make comparably similar from streaming or prepping for a larger tournament. e.g. top EU teams consistently do this Do you really think progamers are wealthy and they can afford to throw money away? Most of them make a fairly meager living, I'm not sure what gave people the impressions that progamers are swimming in cash and just don't care about 1600 bucks. Btw there aren't small online tournaments ALL the time with 5k first prizes. Can you name a couple for me?
I mean most of these guys are not making 6 figures(except saint probably). But you would figure they should make >40000 right? I mean 1600 is not a trivial chunk of change but it's not like these guys "need" it to surive it or anything. If someone really needed that 1600 would they not have just go tryhard in the first place?
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Sorry if this is a stupid question, but this is match point right?
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CRS should make t-shirts for Westrice that say "You just got DUNKED!"
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On August 27 2012 07:59 AUGcodon wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2012 07:54 Feartheguru wrote:On August 27 2012 07:49 beefhamburger wrote:On August 27 2012 07:44 Feartheguru wrote:On August 27 2012 07:31 Aurdon wrote:On August 27 2012 07:28 Feartheguru wrote:
These games feel too much like a sham for me to enjoy, knowing the money is getting split kinda gives me a subconscious feeling the games don't mean anything, even though logically they are probably playing their best and as a viewer there's no real difference/. I don't think it was ever said they agreed to split the money. In fact, I do not think MLG would allow that if they found out that was the case. Did watch the game? It was so obvious they were joking around that the casters even said it, not as analysis but observation. If you're playing a tryhard match in ARAM setting for 1.6k I personally wouldn't suicide into the nexus rather than kill free nexus turrets, not sure about you. That's perfectly fine but don't think 1.6k means as much to them as it does for you. It's really not very much for them and I could very well see them throwing it away for fun if they wanted to. Top teams pass on smaller online tournaments ALL the time that have a 5k 1st place prize (1.6k each like here) just because it's not worth it to them when they can easily make comparably similar from streaming or prepping for a larger tournament. e.g. top EU teams consistently do this Do you really think progamers are wealthy and they can afford to throw money away? Most of them make a fairly meager living, I'm not sure what gave people the impressions that progamers are swimming in cash and just don't care about 1600 bucks. Btw there aren't small online tournaments ALL the time with 5k first prizes. Can you name a couple for me? I mean most of these guys are not making 6 figures(except saint probably). But you would figure they should make >40000 right? I mean 1600 is not a trivial chunk of change but it's not like these guys "need" it to surive it or anything. If someone really needed that 1600 would they not have just go tryhard in the first place?
All I'm saying is, tryharding for a couple league games for 1600 dollars is not really hard work. It doesn't take "needing to survive" to push yourself to tryhard in a few games of LoL.
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On August 27 2012 08:00 Djeez wrote:
Sorry if this is a stupid question, but this is match point right?
It is for both yes.
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On August 27 2012 08:00 Feartheguru wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2012 07:59 AUGcodon wrote:On August 27 2012 07:54 Feartheguru wrote:On August 27 2012 07:49 beefhamburger wrote:On August 27 2012 07:44 Feartheguru wrote:On August 27 2012 07:31 Aurdon wrote:On August 27 2012 07:28 Feartheguru wrote:
These games feel too much like a sham for me to enjoy, knowing the money is getting split kinda gives me a subconscious feeling the games don't mean anything, even though logically they are probably playing their best and as a viewer there's no real difference/. I don't think it was ever said they agreed to split the money. In fact, I do not think MLG would allow that if they found out that was the case. Did watch the game? It was so obvious they were joking around that the casters even said it, not as analysis but observation. If you're playing a tryhard match in ARAM setting for 1.6k I personally wouldn't suicide into the nexus rather than kill free nexus turrets, not sure about you. That's perfectly fine but don't think 1.6k means as much to them as it does for you. It's really not very much for them and I could very well see them throwing it away for fun if they wanted to. Top teams pass on smaller online tournaments ALL the time that have a 5k 1st place prize (1.6k each like here) just because it's not worth it to them when they can easily make comparably similar from streaming or prepping for a larger tournament. e.g. top EU teams consistently do this Do you really think progamers are wealthy and they can afford to throw money away? Most of them make a fairly meager living, I'm not sure what gave people the impressions that progamers are swimming in cash and just don't care about 1600 bucks. Btw there aren't small online tournaments ALL the time with 5k first prizes. Can you name a couple for me? I mean most of these guys are not making 6 figures(except saint probably). But you would figure they should make >40000 right? I mean 1600 is not a trivial chunk of change but it's not like these guys "need" it to surive it or anything. If someone really needed that 1600 would they not have just go tryhard in the first place? All I'm saying is, tryharding for a couple league games for 1600 dollars is not really hard work.
No, what you are saying is that two teams both decided to deliberately engage in an activity which MLG has shown they are willing to ban teams for and what some people would consider a form of matchfixing.
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On August 27 2012 07:54 Feartheguru wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2012 07:49 beefhamburger wrote:On August 27 2012 07:44 Feartheguru wrote:On August 27 2012 07:31 Aurdon wrote:On August 27 2012 07:28 Feartheguru wrote:
These games feel too much like a sham for me to enjoy, knowing the money is getting split kinda gives me a subconscious feeling the games don't mean anything, even though logically they are probably playing their best and as a viewer there's no real difference/. I don't think it was ever said they agreed to split the money. In fact, I do not think MLG would allow that if they found out that was the case. Did watch the game? It was so obvious they were joking around that the casters even said it, not as analysis but observation. If you're playing a tryhard match in ARAM setting for 1.6k I personally wouldn't suicide into the nexus rather than kill free nexus turrets, not sure about you. That's perfectly fine but don't think 1.6k means as much to them as it does for you. It's really not very much for them and I could very well see them throwing it away for fun if they wanted to. Top teams pass on smaller online tournaments ALL the time that have a 5k 1st place prize (1.6k each like here) just because it's not worth it to them when they can easily make comparably similar from streaming or prepping for a larger tournament. e.g. top EU teams consistently do this Do you really think progamers are wealthy and they can afford to throw money away? Most of them make a fairly meager living, I'm not sure what gave people the impressions that progamers are swimming in cash and just don't care about 1600 bucks. Btw there aren't small online tournaments ALL the time with 5k first prizes. Can you name a couple for me?
CLG.eu have said they've turned down a dozen of tournament invites that have had 5-10k prize money because it's just not worth it for them. They'd rather skip them and prep for bigger tournies even though they were fully able to play and crush for an easy 5k. If I followed the EU scene, I'd be able to name some for you. I guess you win.
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On August 27 2012 08:02 Leonite7 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2012 08:00 Feartheguru wrote:On August 27 2012 07:59 AUGcodon wrote:On August 27 2012 07:54 Feartheguru wrote:On August 27 2012 07:49 beefhamburger wrote:On August 27 2012 07:44 Feartheguru wrote:On August 27 2012 07:31 Aurdon wrote:On August 27 2012 07:28 Feartheguru wrote:
These games feel too much like a sham for me to enjoy, knowing the money is getting split kinda gives me a subconscious feeling the games don't mean anything, even though logically they are probably playing their best and as a viewer there's no real difference/. I don't think it was ever said they agreed to split the money. In fact, I do not think MLG would allow that if they found out that was the case. Did watch the game? It was so obvious they were joking around that the casters even said it, not as analysis but observation. If you're playing a tryhard match in ARAM setting for 1.6k I personally wouldn't suicide into the nexus rather than kill free nexus turrets, not sure about you. That's perfectly fine but don't think 1.6k means as much to them as it does for you. It's really not very much for them and I could very well see them throwing it away for fun if they wanted to. Top teams pass on smaller online tournaments ALL the time that have a 5k 1st place prize (1.6k each like here) just because it's not worth it to them when they can easily make comparably similar from streaming or prepping for a larger tournament. e.g. top EU teams consistently do this Do you really think progamers are wealthy and they can afford to throw money away? Most of them make a fairly meager living, I'm not sure what gave people the impressions that progamers are swimming in cash and just don't care about 1600 bucks. Btw there aren't small online tournaments ALL the time with 5k first prizes. Can you name a couple for me? I mean most of these guys are not making 6 figures(except saint probably). But you would figure they should make >40000 right? I mean 1600 is not a trivial chunk of change but it's not like these guys "need" it to surive it or anything. If someone really needed that 1600 would they not have just go tryhard in the first place? All I'm saying is, tryharding for a couple league games for 1600 dollars is not really hard work. No, what you are saying is that two teams both decided to deliberately engage in an activity which MLG has shown they are willing to ban teams for and what some people would consider a form of matchfixing.
I said I think they did, is this what people refer when they talk about fanboyism? Cause I thought people are allowed to say what they think happened.
Btw "All I'm saying" as in all I'm saying in regards to what's quoted, sorry I didn't clear it up, thought you can use common sense.
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