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HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
April 08 2012 23:12 GMT
#5481
I believe you guys should stop and enjoy the kobe interview.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
0123456789
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3216 Posts
April 08 2012 23:14 GMT
#5482
All of Hotshot's top lane picks can be countered. Ranged ad top........
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
April 08 2012 23:14 GMT
#5483
Speaking of hypercarries, TF ulti used to slow everyone globally by 70% while revealing them, his global teleport had a 20 second cooldown, and his Gold Card stunned and damaged in an AoE dealing 280 damage while having a 5 second cooldown
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
beefhamburger
Profile Joined December 2007
United States3962 Posts
April 08 2012 23:15 GMT
#5484
Just take it to the GD thread for it's nth time discussing it. Not here.
emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
April 08 2012 23:15 GMT
#5485
On April 09 2012 08:14 0123456789 wrote:
All of Hotshot's top lane picks can be countered. Ranged ad top........

need trm to play yorick...
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
April 08 2012 23:15 GMT
#5486
On April 09 2012 08:14 Shikyo wrote:
Speaking of hypercarries, TF ulti used to slow everyone globally by 70% while revealing them, his global teleport had a 20 second cooldown, and his Gold Card stunned and damaged in an AoE dealing 280 damage while having a 5 second cooldown

And flash had like 2k range.
liftlift > tsm
Youtakenocandle
Profile Joined February 2012
543 Posts
April 08 2012 23:16 GMT
#5487
As someone that never watched or played LoL I have no idea what's going on. I feel like old people :/
nojitosunrise
Profile Joined August 2011
United States6188 Posts
April 08 2012 23:16 GMT
#5488
On April 09 2012 08:15 emucxg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 08:14 0123456789 wrote:
All of Hotshot's top lane picks can be countered. Ranged ad top........

need trm to play yorick...


Dyrus plays a mean Yorick
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
April 08 2012 23:17 GMT
#5489
On April 09 2012 08:16 nojitosunrise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 08:15 emucxg wrote:
On April 09 2012 08:14 0123456789 wrote:
All of Hotshot's top lane picks can be countered. Ranged ad top........

need trm to play yorick...


Dyrus plays a mean Yorick

Grackis probably plays a mean yorick.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
April 08 2012 23:17 GMT
#5490
On April 09 2012 08:16 Youtakenocandle wrote:
As someone that never watched or played LoL I have no idea what's going on. I feel like old people :/

start play =), and its really easy to get into.
emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
April 08 2012 23:18 GMT
#5491
no phreakkkkkkkkkk omfg
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
April 08 2012 23:18 GMT
#5492
On April 09 2012 08:11 wei2coolman wrote:
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On April 09 2012 08:09 Two_DoWn wrote:
On April 09 2012 08:04 wei2coolman wrote:
On April 09 2012 08:02 Two_DoWn wrote:
I fucking hate "hyper carry" in lol.

There are no "hyper carries" in lol. There are ad carries. The variance between all of them is minute, because their damage comes from items. The flair that their abilities gives is just that: unique flair. But they aren't big enough damage differences to make Kog a "hyper carry" and Ashe not.

Imo the difference between hyper carry, and regular AD, isn't the champion. an Ashe can hypercarry, just liek a kog can hypercarry.

The difference between regular ad carry, and hypercarry is the team comp surrounding them.

Hypercarry is when the other 4 champs mains jobs is simply PEEL AND PROTECT carry, ergo the carry doesn't have to even move an inch, and the carry can do damage 100% the time, rather than waste time kiting.

And equally stupid distinction. No team is built around letting the ad carry die.

As for peel and protect: EVERY TEAMCOMP IS BUILT AROUND THIS.

M5's 3 bruisers? Peel by creating bigger damage threats that force the enemy team away from the ad carry.

Poke comp? Use tower pressure to keep people out of position, carry good disengage.

Digs lulu shenanigans? Keep everyone alive.

Double ap? Kill shit so fast people can't GET to the ad carry.

So no. There is no hyper carry in lol. there is no team comp that makes an ad carry a hyper carry in one comp and not the other. Its just stupid meaningless distinctions people throw out (just like the idea that some champs are "tanks")


I seriously hope you don't believe double AP comp is a "protect the ad carry" comp, and trying to compare poke comp to protect the hypercarry comp.

I am merely trying to point out that EVERY comp has a way to protect the ad carry. They are all designed to do that. There is no comp that is designed to protect the carry "more." Its just the way you go about doing it.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
April 08 2012 23:18 GMT
#5493
oh hell yeah great choice in sending out dan dihn
javy_
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1677 Posts
April 08 2012 23:18 GMT
#5494
On April 09 2012 08:11 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 08:08 javy925 wrote:
On April 09 2012 08:04 wei2coolman wrote:
On April 09 2012 08:02 Two_DoWn wrote:
I fucking hate "hyper carry" in lol.

There are no "hyper carries" in lol. There are ad carries. The variance between all of them is minute, because their damage comes from items. The flair that their abilities gives is just that: unique flair. But they aren't big enough damage differences to make Kog a "hyper carry" and Ashe not.

Imo the difference between hyper carry, and regular AD, isn't the champion. an Ashe can hypercarry, just liek a kog can hypercarry.

The difference between regular ad carry, and hypercarry is the team comp surrounding them.

Hypercarry is when the other 4 champs mains jobs is simply PEEL AND PROTECT carry, ergo the carry doesn't have to even move an inch, and the carry can do damage 100% the time, rather than waste time kiting.


this does not make any sense and is simply splitting hairs.

On April 09 2012 08:05 BlueSpace wrote:
On April 09 2012 08:02 Two_DoWn wrote:
I fucking hate the term "hyper carry" in lol.

There are no "hyper carries" in lol. There are ad carries. The variance between all of them is minute, because their damage comes from items. The flair that their abilities gives is just that: unique flair. But they aren't big enough damage differences to make Kog a "hyper carry" and Ashe not.

The difference in damage between Urgot and Kog is not minute in late game.


So what? They're still both AD carries. It's just understood that urgot falls of late game compared to other carries but is substantially stronger than kog (as well as other carries) early and mid game.


That is the point?

Hypercarry = http://www.splung.com/units/images/exponential.gif

Regular AD= http://www.splung.com/units/images/straightline.gif


....no, it's not the point. It's a meangingless distinction. There are carries that excel in different phases of the game, but they are all still called "AD carries." They have different strenghts and weaknesses. Hypercarries don't exist in LoL because there are no carries that can solo the other team with sufficient farm, unlike in DotA.
♪~( ̄。 ̄)
dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
April 08 2012 23:19 GMT
#5495
Katarina is the de-facto poster girl for LOL, yet she'll never see the light of day in competitive play
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
April 08 2012 23:19 GMT
#5496
TL'ers love to get the last word in, even when people want them to shut up. Wutdo.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
April 08 2012 23:19 GMT
#5497
Oh yeah, Fizz counters Cho'Gath solo top in my opinion, by trading he can force Chogath back and Cho cannot really properly get close enough to utilize his passive fully
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Sqq
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway2023 Posts
April 08 2012 23:19 GMT
#5498
On April 09 2012 08:16 Youtakenocandle wrote:
As someone that never watched or played LoL I have no idea what's going on. I feel like old people :/


I agree. I had the same problem. Now I've played a lot this easter (level 15 i think) and I can finally call basic play and know what characters can do.
Dead girls don't say no.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
April 08 2012 23:20 GMT
#5499
On April 09 2012 08:19 Shikyo wrote:
Oh yeah, Fizz counters Cho'Gath solo top in my opinion, by trading he can force Chogath back and Cho cannot really properly get close enough to utilize his passive fully

Problem is almost no one plays Fizz at a high level.
GranDim
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Canada1214 Posts
April 08 2012 23:20 GMT
#5500
On April 09 2012 08:15 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 08:14 Shikyo wrote:
Speaking of hypercarries, TF ulti used to slow everyone globally by 70% while revealing them, his global teleport had a 20 second cooldown, and his Gold Card stunned and damaged in an AoE dealing 280 damage while having a 5 second cooldown

And flash had like 2k range.


TF was dominating games by controlling the laning phase and later hunting down stragglers. He was big in teamfights but Twitch and Fiddle at their primes were a lot scarier for the 1v5 potential.
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