EPTOn March 10 2012 04:17 Shikyo wrote:
Huh? They weren't behind at any point of the game I think?
Huh? They weren't behind at any point of the game I think?
In the second game, yes they were early on
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At any point of IEM Season 6 Championship, if you think of an interesting byline, please drop a sentence in the Pro Scene thread. At the end of the month, I'll catalogue the results of Hannover but also any interesting facts or events that happen over the course of the tournament. Thanks. Neo, 06.03.2012 | ||
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Woony
Germany6657 Posts
In the second game, yes they were early on | ||
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SpiritoftheTunA
United States20903 Posts
On March 10 2012 04:17 Shikyo wrote: Huh? They weren't behind at any point of the game I think? game 2? brolaf is strong btw idk why you thought he was a weak pick, saint just tried to throw really hard | ||
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NoobieOne
United States1183 Posts
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Woony
Germany6657 Posts
On March 10 2012 04:32 NoobieOne wrote: maybe he was talking early game 2 where they were behind ye | ||
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CeriseCherries
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koreasilver
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
On March 10 2012 02:52 MooMooMugi wrote: CLG not happy about getting 3rd I think they expected to beat M5 to play Dig. in the finals I think they seriously underestimated m5 if they expected to beat them. | ||
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nyxnyxnyx
Indonesia2978 Posts
We've seen M5 dominate Kiev and really put on a show at Hannover, but what exactly makes them tick? Many have described / observed M5 as being: -super aggressive -partial to counterjungling -excellent at executing teamfights I don't disagree with the above, but I feel that at the core of their play is the pre-game decisions that they make as team, with respect to picks/bans and itemization. M5 bans M5 typically bans champions that punish over-aggression (Karthus, Shen, Rammus) and in one specific example, champions that heavily influence teamfights (Cassiopeia). This allows them to play the way they are comfortable with. M5 picks M5 typically picks champions with a strong late-game / heavy teamfight capabilities. This is perhaps THE best way to draft in League of Legends, as unlike the other game *cough* DotA*cough*, champions with strong late-game in LoL do not get a weak early-game as a counterbalance (think Ryze, Shyvanna). In addition, drafting champions with good teamfight prowess allows for comebacks in the event that the laning phase does not go too well in their favor. M5's play M5 as a team applies high pressure throughout the whole map, not unlike the optimal Dominion strategy. What this means is M5 typically pushes out all three lanes, if possible, freeing up time for extra movement around the enemy jungle / recalling to buy. This also restricts the enemies' movements in addition to lowering their CS when the turret inevitably steals some last hits. While this might sound dangerous, when executed as a team it really puts a lot of stress on the lanes which a lone jungler is unable to relieve. The opposing jungler is torn between helping multiple lanes out and protecting his own creeps from invasion. M5's itemization What I found highly interesting / enlightening was M5's itemization, something which I think is instrumental to their success in most teamfights. M5's jungler, Diamondez almost always gets Aegis, which is obviously a super efficient item during teamfights where everyone stands to benefit from the aura. GoSu Pepper typically starts Faerie Charm into Heart of Gold, forgoing Philo Stone's sustain for the additional health buffer which is typically useful only for teamfights. In addition, GoSu Pepper goes for Zeke's Herald in a lot of games, even ones where M5 goes double AP. Where most teams spend their support gold on Philo Stone -> Shurelya's, M5's support gold is spent on Zeke's Herald which provides actual combat benefits. An extreme example of M5's itemizing for teamfights/lategame is Dar1en, who often forgoes WARDS and makes up for his lack of vision by playing push-out+recall/invade (the need for wards to counter lane ganks is significantly lowered when you aren't in lane). EDIT: Changelog: Changed title from Breaking down M5's play to Dissecting M5's play because dissecting is a cool word. | ||
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little fancy
Germany2504 Posts
On March 10 2012 05:24 Slayer91 wrote: I think they seriously underestimated m5 if they expected to beat them. I was under the impression that CLG was the first team really troubling M5, especially SV's early oracles were crucial. In the interview after g2 Alex Ich looked kinda happy & released as if he was glad everything went so well for them. The typical "see hero kill hero" M5 attitude of unshakable confidence was gone IMO. However, they played it safe and deserved to win in the end, but CLG was the closest of all teams yet to end M5's impressive winning streak and they could have won g2 if they hadn't made those 2-3 gamebreaking mistakes. | ||
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nojitosunrise
United States6188 Posts
On March 10 2012 05:34 nyxnyxnyx wrote: M5's play M5 as a team applies high pressure throughout the whole map, not unlike the optimal Dominion strategy. What this means is M5 typically pushes out all three lanes, if possible, freeing up time for extra movement around the enemy jungle / recalling to buy. This also restricts the enemies' movements in addition to lowering their CS when the turret inevitably steals some last hits. While this might sound dangerous, when executed as a team it really puts a lot of stress on the lanes which a lone jungler is unable to relieve. The opponsing jungler is torn between helping multiple lanes out and protecting his own creeps from invasion. M5's itemization What I found highly interesting / enlightening was M5's itemization, something which I think is instrumental to their success in most teamfights. M5's jungler, Diamondez almost always gets Aegis, which is obviously a super efficient item during teamfights where everyone stands to benefit from the aura. GoSu Pepper typically starts Faerie Charm into Heart of Gold, forgoing Philo Stone's sustain for the additional health buffer which is typically useful only for teamfights. In addition, GoSu Pepper goes for Zeke's Herald in a lot of games, even ones where M5 goes double AP. Where most teams spend their support gold on Philo Stone -> Shurelya's, M5's support gold is spent on Zeke's Herald which provides actual combat benefits. An extreme example of M5's itemizing for teamfights/lategame is Dar1en, who often forgoes WARDS and makes up for his lack of vision by playing push-out+recall/invade (the need for wards to counter lane ganks is significantly lowered when you aren't in lane). What I found the most interesting was that M5's playstyle is almost identical to CLG's playstyle @Cologne/Guangzhou last year. I am sure if you watch the old VODs you will see a ton of similarities between the two teams. Great analysis nyx | ||
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On March 10 2012 05:34 nyxnyxnyx wrote: M5's itemization What I found highly interesting / enlightening was M5's itemization, something which I think is instrumental to their success in most teamfights. M5's jungler, Diamondez almost always gets Aegis, which is obviously a super efficient item during teamfights where everyone stands to benefit from the aura. GoSu Pepper typically starts Faerie Charm into Heart of Gold, forgoing Philo Stone's sustain for the additional health buffer which is typically useful only for teamfights. In addition, GoSu Pepper goes for Zeke's Herald in a lot of games, even ones where M5 goes double AP. Where most teams spend their support gold on Philo Stone -> Shurelya's, M5's support gold is spent on Zeke's Herald which provides actual combat benefits. An extreme example of M5's itemizing for teamfights/lategame is Dar1en, who often forgoes WARDS and makes up for his lack of vision by playing push-out+recall/invade (the need for wards to counter lane ganks is significantly lowered when you aren't in lane). I think this is a key point that a lot of people are overlooking. I've been saying that Stark's was overpowered for a long time. Now that it's been changed to Zeke's and it's much more accessible for supports to grab I'm very surprised it's not core on supports. The benefit of having a Zeke lets your AD carry forgo grabbing lifesteal and attack speed. M5 loves playing their AD carries very tanky (tanky Urgot, triple dorans/wriggles Kennen, etc...) and they still manage to do tons of damage in teamfights because their lifesteal/attack speed itemization is partially covered by the Zeke aura. | ||
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Keniji
Netherlands2569 Posts
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overt
United States9006 Posts
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deathgod6
United States5064 Posts
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JBright
Vancouver14381 Posts
On March 10 2012 08:43 deathgod6 wrote: Does anyone have a link to the VODs for the 3rd place match? http://iemhanover.leagueoflegends.com/galleries/videos/day-4/3rd-place-match-aaa-vs-clg-part-one | ||
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TheTurk
United States732 Posts
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arnath
United States1317 Posts
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Kyo Yuy
United States1286 Posts
On March 10 2012 09:00 TheTurk wrote: Dignitas gonna take this EASY. Can you state why you feel this way? A lot of people (myself included) are expecting M5 to just run Dignitas over. I would be EXTREMELY thrilled if Dignitas won, don't get me wrong. I'm just curious why you feel confident that Dignitas WILL take it. | ||
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Chiharu Harukaze
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My mind says M5 wins 2-1. But my heart says Dignitas wins. I believe in you Scarra! Real qtie~ I also predict Scarra wins "I Carried IEM Big" Hoodie. | ||
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