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kidd
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
United States2848 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-11 23:05:16
February 11 2012 23:03 GMT
#61
Choppa CLG game spoiled on stream, could've looked at match history either way, but yeah.

+ Show Spoiler +
CLG wins 2nd game, 2-0. I expected it, but still want to see it.
Hi
Haasts
Profile Joined October 2011
New Zealand4445 Posts
February 11 2012 23:21 GMT
#62
Nice flash+Bear stun by TreeEskimo top to prevent Dyrus' TP!
PaniaoftheReef in Path of Exile TotA SSF SC // Lovelin fanclub // GreenTea #1
Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-11 23:28:56
February 11 2012 23:24 GMT
#63
v8 invading early and stealing blue, getting first blood and a kill bottom and pretty much snowballing from there. Dan too aggressive too early, I really don't get his obsession with Amumu. (and GP/10 Quints on him, lol.) I think he's way too prone to early invades and v8 had such a strong lvl 1. Udyr stun, Ahri taunt, Leona... I don't know, why pick Mummy when they already have Shyvana, Sivir, Leona locked in?

Edit: he also builds Philo HoG into WotA. What the actual fuck.
Edit 2: INTO A FUCKING ABYSSAL. DAN'S A MADMAN.
currently rooting for myself.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
February 11 2012 23:25 GMT
#64
Dan Dinh is completely. and utterly. insane.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
February 11 2012 23:25 GMT
#65
On February 12 2012 08:25 Two_DoWn wrote:
Dan Dinh is completely. and utterly. insane.

But not exactly in a good way :/
currently rooting for myself.
Dgiese
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2687 Posts
February 11 2012 23:27 GMT
#66
This game is awesome. Also got TreeEskimo's stream going to hear V8 vent. They have pretty awesome teamwork, kinda sound like CLG eu
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
February 11 2012 23:31 GMT
#67
Yeah... EpiK...
This is what happens to talent but no practice.

V8, looking almost Goose's level. Definitely near to top of A Tier for NA.
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Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
February 11 2012 23:35 GMT
#68
On February 12 2012 08:31 NeoIllusions wrote:
Yeah... EpiK...
This is what happens to talent but no practice.

V8, looking almost Goose's level. Definitely near to top of A Tier for NA.

No, thats what happens when dan gets to do stupid shit.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Haasts
Profile Joined October 2011
New Zealand4445 Posts
February 11 2012 23:36 GMT
#69
Yeah, was watching TreeEskimo's stream - V8 had a lot of offensive summoners (3 Ignites and either Exhaust or Heal) while EG had stuff like CV/TP/Cleanse, which let them invade blue with impunity (after warding the entrance to their own so it wasn't a blue trade); Dan kept falling further and further behind. He once came up top vaguely thinking about ganking TreeEskimo's Udyr, who was SEVEN levels above him and had TriForce. He looked even sadder than Amumu usually does :/
PaniaoftheReef in Path of Exile TotA SSF SC // Lovelin fanclub // GreenTea #1
Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
February 11 2012 23:36 GMT
#70
On February 12 2012 08:31 NeoIllusions wrote:
Yeah... EpiK...
This is what happens to talent but no practice.

V8, looking almost Goose's level. Definitely near to top of A Tier for NA.

Speaking of talent, how did you guiys like Salce's Orianna? I think he played the game pretty well. I would have loved to see a Chalice against Ahri, but I guess he decided not to get it because of her true damage. I think that was a mistake because if I'm not completely mistaken, TakashiX took a page out of Froggen & co's books and maxed W. Anyways, there was this fight where he chased Sivir and Colby and Elementz where going on about how he should have used his W to speed up. He had a blue buff, but I think in that situation he wasn't aware Sivir was already so far away and counted on catching her either in the tribrush with a QW or after she was heading south towards her tower. In either situation, I think his W would have been on cooldown if he had used it to speed up. He was simply misjudging Sivir's advantage in distance and thus misplayed the situation.

Anyway, what I'm trying to say is: I think he played the game pretty well and Salce's mad good and should get more appreciation.
currently rooting for myself.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
February 11 2012 23:39 GMT
#71
On February 12 2012 08:36 Shiv. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2012 08:31 NeoIllusions wrote:
Yeah... EpiK...
This is what happens to talent but no practice.

V8, looking almost Goose's level. Definitely near to top of A Tier for NA.

Speaking of talent, how did you guiys like Salce's Orianna? I think he played the game pretty well. I would have loved to see a Chalice against Ahri, but I guess he decided not to get it because of her true damage. I think that was a mistake because if I'm not completely mistaken, TakashiX took a page out of Froggen & co's books and maxed W. Anyways, there was this fight where he chased Sivir and Colby and Elementz where going on about how he should have used his W to speed up. He had a blue buff, but I think in that situation he wasn't aware Sivir was already so far away and counted on catching her either in the tribrush with a QW or after she was heading south towards her tower. In either situation, I think his W would have been on cooldown if he had used it to speed up. He was simply misjudging Sivir's advantage in distance and thus misplayed the situation.

Anyway, what I'm trying to say is: I think he played the game pretty well and Salce's mad good and should get more appreciation.


Considering TD's raging hardon for Salce, I'm sure he's appreciated enough, huehue.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Niton
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2395 Posts
February 11 2012 23:41 GMT
#72
I just can't believe they'd let Dan rush fucking WotA on Amumu - if you want to go for oddball strats, rush RoA or something to deal with the lack of blue, not go straight AP -_-. Amumu can do some variant Sapphire+2 routes if he knows he can't contest his first blue, so IDK why Dan didn't think of something like that ahead of time.

Then again, Dan's actually kind of a terrible jungler who doesn't really know what to build on any of the current common ones - I saw him do Thornmail-first Rammus recently.
tree.hugger: Coming off of [(T)fantasy v. (T)Really] into [(T)Barracks v. (T)MVP] is like coming out of Manhattan into New Jersey. You just have to speed up and ignore it.
Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-11 23:45:16
February 11 2012 23:42 GMT
#73
P&B in consecutive order.

Bans:

EG: Ryze, Ahri, Skarner
v8: Shyvana, Rammus, Vlad

Picks:

EG: Sona, Corki, Malphite, Kennen, ORISALCEFUCKINGANNA
v8: Nocturne, MF, Leona, Udyr, Kassadin


On February 12 2012 08:41 Niton wrote:
Then again, I saw him do Thornmail-first Rammus recently.


Wat. Dan does really really weird stuff sometimes. I mean, GP 10 Quints on Amumu. AP/lvl Reds on Heimer. Who does that?
currently rooting for myself.
Dgiese
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2687 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-11 23:47:10
February 11 2012 23:46 GMT
#74
Game 2:
EG: bans ryze, ahri, skarner
Picks: Sona, Corki, Malph, Kennen (dyrus), Ori

V8 bans: Shyv, Rammus, Vlad
Picks: Noct, MF, Leona, Udyr, Kass

Lol, I'm too slow Wasn't sure who V8's last pick was cause of Colby's chinese art.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
February 11 2012 23:46 GMT
#75
It can work in lane where building weird shit can be counteracted by working it well, getting lots of gold, and using your skill to outplay people.

It DOES NOT work in jungle because you already have a lower income and need to maximize the efficiency of your gold expenditure. Its why cloth 5 is a bad buy now, and why you need to plan out your build as you go.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
February 11 2012 23:47 GMT
#76
On February 12 2012 08:41 Niton wrote:
I just can't believe they'd let Dan rush fucking WotA on Amumu - if you want to go for oddball strats, rush RoA or something to deal with the lack of blue, not go straight AP -_-. Amumu can do some variant Sapphire+2 routes if he knows he can't contest his first blue, so IDK why Dan didn't think of something like that ahead of time.

Then again, Dan's actually kind of a terrible jungler who doesn't really know what to build on any of the current common ones - I saw him do Thornmail-first Rammus recently.

I would question my own closed-mindedness before I questioned Dan's item selection. Dan's been playing this game since beta--while he has many flaws, game understanding isn't one of them.
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daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
February 11 2012 23:50 GMT
#77
Elementz saying you don't see this early aggression...should have continued, in the US servers.
Dgiese
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2687 Posts
February 11 2012 23:55 GMT
#78
LOL from V8 vent
"Yo, Westrice sucks dick, he didn't even cleanse anything right there"
Niton
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2395 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-11 23:56:59
February 11 2012 23:55 GMT
#79
On February 12 2012 08:47 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2012 08:41 Niton wrote:
I just can't believe they'd let Dan rush fucking WotA on Amumu - if you want to go for oddball strats, rush RoA or something to deal with the lack of blue, not go straight AP -_-. Amumu can do some variant Sapphire+2 routes if he knows he can't contest his first blue, so IDK why Dan didn't think of something like that ahead of time.

Then again, Dan's actually kind of a terrible jungler who doesn't really know what to build on any of the current common ones - I saw him do Thornmail-first Rammus recently.

I would question my own closed-mindedness before I questioned Dan's item selection. Dan's been playing this game since beta--while he has many flaws, game understanding isn't one of them.


I would normally agree, but Dan does some things that are so far removed from the combined understanding of every high level jungler, and invariably those ideas tend to not only not work, but also cause him to end the game as dead weight on his team. I wouldn't ever judge someone who did something weird and did okay with it, but a pattern of shit like Red Pot Nocturne and WotA Amumu really makes me question if Dan does any sort of proper math or testing with his builds before sending them out into the wild.

Variant builds are awesome - I love trying out unorthodox things, and if they work good I might use them in an actual game, but I can't even imagine what was going through Dan's head when he decided what he needed was 20% spellvamp.
tree.hugger: Coming off of [(T)fantasy v. (T)Really] into [(T)Barracks v. (T)MVP] is like coming out of Manhattan into New Jersey. You just have to speed up and ignore it.
HPoirot
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1303 Posts
February 11 2012 23:58 GMT
#80
Malphite ult bug.
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