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Curse's Stream on Twitch TVCasters:+ Show Spoiler +Prize Pool+ Show Spoiler +1st Place $5,000
Chance for another $20,000 against Curse Choppa in Da Car + Show Spoiler +As a brand new team to the scene they're looking to gain some status as the underdogs of this tournament. As individuals they all maintain high solo queue Elo's and have some experience playing in the competitive scene but not as a cohesive team. They will need to band together to show these tops teams what they're made of! Counter Logic Gaming + Show Spoiler +As one of the oldest teams in the competitive scene CLG has had their ups and their downs. We've seen CLG steamroll touranments with ease, like their recent victory in the NESL, but will they maintain that status of dominance in this upcoming tournament or will they fall from grace? Come see for yourself! Team SoloMid + Show Spoiler +Known for their aggressive playstyles, TSM is another oldy to the competitive scene being a team for almost as long as CLG has been. These guys have been really stepping their game up lately and have been practicing a lot since they've all moved into their gaming house. They've always been a top team in the NA scene and we're looking forward to seeing how they preform. v8 eSports + Show Spoiler +V8 is a newer team to the scene but they aren't new players by any means. These guys have qualified for many tournaments and have shown other teams that if they don't take them seriously, they will regret it. Epik Gamer + Show Spoiler +EG, being another old team on the scene, has qualified for a number of tournaments and has always put on a great show for us. They've always come to play and are always a feared team to play agaisnt. These guys have great chemistry and we can't wait to watch them duke it out against other teams. Dignitas + Show Spoiler +Dignitas is a team that exploded onto the scene a while ago, dominating everyone with their double assassin team comps and extemely high skilled play. Since then they've made a little change to their roster and haven't been the dominate force they used to be. Let's hope they get that fire back in their bellies for this next tournament as we'd love to see them kick some butt again. RFLX Gaming + Show Spoiler +RFLX is another new team on the scene, but they have slowly become more known as they compete vs top teams and give them a run for their money everytime! These guys will surely be a tough team to beat even though they haven't been together as a team for that long. Their individual skills are high, so let's hope for the best for this new found team! A Picture of a Goose + Show Spoiler +Goose has flown their way onto the scene with some meta-changing strategies and plays, getting them known for being innovative. They've clashed with other top teams, showing they can compete and chances are they have some tricks up their steeves for this tournament. We can't wait to find out what they have in store! Games played on most current patch. Ziggs/Nautilus patches.
Saturday, Feb 11 8:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)
20:00 GMT (+00:00) -- Choppa vs. CLG
+ Show Spoiler [bans/picks] +Game 1 + Show Spoiler +Bans
CLG: Rammus, Ahri, Vladamir
Choppa: Kennen, Ryze, Shyvana
Picks
CLG: Sona, Cassiopeia, Cho'Gath, Gangplank, Vayne
Choppa: Udyr, Taric, Yorick, Ziggs, Urgot Game 2 + Show Spoiler +Bans
Choppa - Rammus, Kennen, Ryze
CLG - Ahri, Vlad, Maokai
Picks
Choppa - Udyr, Sona, Lux, Tristana, Lee Sin
CLG - Gangplank, Janna, Ashe, Anivia, Twisted Fate Game 3 + Show Spoiler ++ Show Spoiler [Results] +Choppa - CLG
Choppa - CLG
Choppa 0:2 CLG
22:00 GMT (+00:00) -- v8 vs. Epik
+ Show Spoiler [bans/picks] +Game 1 + Show Spoiler +Bans
v8 - Rammus, Kennen, Anivia
Epik - Ryze, Morgana, Sona
Picks
v8 - Shyvana, Leona, Sivir, Udyr, Ahri
Epik - Corki, Soraka, Amumu, GP, Orianna Game 2 + Show Spoiler +Bans
v8 - Shyvana, Rammus, Vladamir
Epik - Ryze, Ahri, Skarner
Picks
v8 - Nocturne, Miss Fortune, Leona, Udyr, Kassadin
Epik - Sona, Malphite, Corki, Kennen, Orianna Game 3 + Show Spoiler +Bans
v8 - Rammus, Kennen, Vladamir
Epik - Shyvana, Ryze, Leona
Picks
v8 - Sona, Udyr, Tristana, Nocturne, Ahri
Epik - Corki, Soraka, Orianna, Malphite, Rumble v8 - Epik
v8 - Epik (Must watch!!)
v8 - Epik
v8 1:2 Epik
00:00 GMT (+00:00) -- Dignitas vs. RFLX
+ Show Spoiler [bans/picks] +Game 1 + Show Spoiler +Bans
Dignitas - LeBlanc, Rumble, Rammus
RFLX - Karthus, Maokai, Lee Sin
Picks
Dignitas - Shyvana, Sona, Cassiopeia, Corki, Irelia
RFLX - Kennen, Annie, Alistar, Graves, Sejuani Game 2 + Show Spoiler +Bans
Dignitas - Rammus, LeBlanc, Vladamir
RFLX - Karthus, Cassiopeia, Sona
Picks
Dignitas - Lee Sin, Shyvana, Nunu, Miss Fortune, Galio
RFLX - Maokai, Soraka, Graves, Morgana, Rumble Game 3 + Show Spoiler ++ Show Spoiler [Results] +Dignitas - RFLX
Dignitas - RFLX
Dignitas 2:0 RFLX
02:00 GMT (+00:00) -- TSM vs. Goose
+ Show Spoiler [bans/picks] +Game 1 + Show Spoiler +Bans
TSM - Morgana, Jarvan IV, Sona
Goose - Sion, Shyvana, Miss Fortune
Picks
TSM - Soraka, Cassiopeia, Maokai, Sivir, Yorick
Goose - Rammus, Ahri, Janna, Rumble, Tristana Game 2 + Show Spoiler +Bans
TSM - Morgana, Jarvan IV, Sona
Goose - Sion, Miss Fortune, Rammus
Picks
TSM - Gangplank, Soraka, Ahri, Graves, Lee Sin
Goose - Cassiopeia, Shyvana, Tristana, Alistar, Maokai Game 3 + Show Spoiler ++ Show Spoiler [Results] +TSM - Goose
TSM - Goose
TSM 2:0 Goose
Results
+ Show Spoiler +Choppa 0:2 CLG
EG 2:1 v8
Dignitas 2:0 RFLX
TSM 2:0 Goose
CLG will play TSM in the semifinals!
EG will play Dignitas in the semifinals!
Saturday, Feb 18 11:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)
23:00 GMT (+00:00) -- Semifinals #1
+ Show Spoiler +CLG vs. TSM + Show Spoiler [bans/picks] +Game 1 + Show Spoiler +Bans
CLG - Maokai, Cassiopeia, Alistar
TSM - Sona, Ryze, Kog'Maw
Picks
CLG - Shen, Caitlyn, Anivia, Galio, Irelia
TSM - Miss Fortune, Janna, Shyvana, Sion, Udyr Game 2 + Show Spoiler +Bans
CLG - Shen, Maokai, Cassiopeia
TSM - Ryze, Kog'Maw, GP
Picks
CLG - Janna, Udyr, Ashe, Irelia, Veigar
TSM - Sona, Miss Fortune, Lee Sin, Ahri, Kennen Game 3 + Show Spoiler +CLG - TSM
CLG - TSM
CLG 2:0 TSM
01:30 GMT (+00:00) -- Semifinals #2
+ Show Spoiler +Epik vs. Dignitas + Show Spoiler [bans/picks] +Game 1 + Show Spoiler +Bans
Epik - Maokai, Lee Sin, Karthus
Dignitas - Malphite, Soraka, Rammus
Picks
Epik - Shen, Graves, Sona, Warwick, Ziggs
Dignitas - Corki, Shyvana, Cassio, Leona, Udyr Game 2 + Show Spoiler +Bans
Epik - Shyvana, Lee Sin, Shen
Dignitas - Malphite, Soraka, Rammus
Picks
Epik - Warwick, Taric, Orianna, Sivir, Akali
Dignitas - Corki, Nunu, Cassiopeia, Maokai, Irelia Game 3 + Show Spoiler +Epik - Dignitas
Epik - Dignitas
Epik 0:2 Dignitas
04:00 GMT (+00:00) -- Online Finals
+ Show Spoiler +CLG vs. Dignitas + Show Spoiler [bans/picks] +Game 1 + Show Spoiler +Bans
CLG - Maokai, Cassiopeia, Shyvana
Dignitas - Rammus, Shen, Galio
Picks
CLG - Ryze, Udyr, Janna, Gangplank, Vayne
Dignitas - Corki, Lee Sin, Karthus, Nunu, Malphite Game 2 + Show Spoiler +Bans
CLG - Maokai, Shen, Cassiopeia
Dignitas - Rammus, Janna, Udyr
Picks
CLG - Gangplank, Galio, Graves, Sona, Kennen
Dignitas - Ryze, Shyvana, Corki, Taric, Lee Sin Game 3 + Show Spoiler +Bans
CLG -
Dignitas -
Picks
CLG - Nocturne, Cho'Gath, Taric, Corki, Cassiopeia
Dignitas - Irelia, Karthus, Shyvana, Janna, Ezreal CLG - Dignitas
CLG - Dignitas
CLG - Dignitas
CLG 1:2 Dignitas
Results
+ Show Spoiler +Semifinals #1
TSM 0:2 CLG
Semifinals #2
Epik 0:2 Dignitas
Online Finals
CLG 1:2 Dignitas
Saturday, Feb 25 7:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)
19:00 GMT (+00:00) -- Prize Finals against Curse
+ Show Spoiler +Curse vs. Dignitas + Show Spoiler [bans/picks] +Game 1 + Show Spoiler +Bans
Curse - Cassiopeia, Shyvana, Maokai
Dignitas (blue) - Kog'Maw, Rammus, Nocturne
Picks
Curse - Lee Sin, Kennen, Soraka, Miss Fortune, Anivia
Dignitas - Ryze, Corki, Alistar, Dr. Mundo, Irelia Game 2 + Show Spoiler +Bans
Curse (blue) -
Dignitas -
Picks
Curse - Tristana, Maokai, Alistar, Rumble, Veigar
Dignitas - Irelia, Taric, Morgana, Corki, Dr. Mundo Game 3 + Show Spoiler +Curse - Dignitas
Curse - Dignitas
Curse 0:2 Dignitas
VODs
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Glad to finally see EG playing in a tournament again.
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CLG vs Choppa should be starting soon. :O
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They're remaking after draft. I wasn't fast enough to catch all the picks/bans. ;_;
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Game 1:
Bans:
CLG: Rammus Ahri Vlad
Choppa: Kennen Ryze Shy
Picks:
CLG: Sona Cass Cho GP Vayne
Choppa: Udyr Taric Yorick Ziggs Urgot
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Choppa heading down to Dragon river brush and tries to invade blue but CLG sees this.
Choppa retreats.
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CLG GP opens on Wraiths with Cho/Cass assist.
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GP starting Red now after Cho leash.
Udyr doing Wolves Blue Wraiths
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Red GP heads for top gank. Cho with great Rupture placement but Yorcick flahes.
GP heading around for second attempt.
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GP wasting a lot of time it seems.
Yorick dodges the Rupture again but takes some harass.
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Bot lane, Vayne Sona dealing the dmg. Vayne full hp, Urgot at half.
Udyr finishes full run and bases after double golems.
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Cass: Boots [30]
Ziggs: Boots [24]
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GP starting Blue, giving it to Cass (5:00)
n/m, GP takes it by accident it seems.
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Red Udyr ganks bot but Vayne Flashes to safety.
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Udyr ganks mid but Cass slithers away.
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Cho: Boots, Philo [44]
Yorick: Boots [32]
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Choppa Bot stun and aggros CLG. Sona Flashes (unneeded)
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CLG times Choppa's Blue and steals it (7:34)
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Cho with Blue continues to push Yorick to lane. CLG has a River ward at Choppa's Blue ramp.
GP takes his second Red.
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Somewhere off screen (+lag) Choppa gets FB on Sona. Kill goes to Urgot.
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Urgot: Tear, Sword, Sword [56]
Vayne: Zerker, Vamp, Bladex2 [71]
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Urgot ulti initiate, Udyr flank from River to gank. Sona dies a second time. Choppa goes straight for Dragon.
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Choppa takes first Drag of game @ 11:09
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11 min
Kills: CLG 0 - 1 Choppa
Gold: CLG 13.2K - 14.5K Choppa
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I had never heard of Choppa but apparently MashMe and chu8 are on it. They look pretty solid during the early game against CLG.
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They used to be coL. chu8 is their most recent addition.
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That swap on cass.
Instant lost teamfight there.
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Reidan and Exlynn(Naryt) were never on Complexity. Only MashMe and Patoy are from Col.
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CLG playing pretty sloppy. Bot lane only now got a ward. :/
First tower lost is CLG Bot tower. Doublelift freezes lane.
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Choppa gets dragon for free as it spawns.
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Choppa facechecks brush by river. Hotshot lands his silence to prevent an Urgot swap before he can make line of sight, Jiji makes up for his mistakes with a beautiful Ult follow up, Sona ult piles on and Doublelift cleans up. Free Baron for CLG.
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Udyr and Urgot face check a bush with Yorick just behind them. Cho'Gath silences them and then jiji uses Cass ult to stun all three of them. Right after Cass stun runs out Chauster throws Sona ult on them. CLG kills 3, loses none, and then takes baron.
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That blue buff steal by ziggs was sweet !
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Kinda sad that Choppa lost all their steam when mash dc'd, and then their vent fucked up too. 
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So based only by this one game it looks like Choppa is a lot like v8 or Goose or some of the other up and coming NA teams. Their early game is just as solid as CLG, TSM, or EG but their team fighting and late game objective securing just isn't as on par as the top teams.
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well, they look good for a new team, just need to work on those teamfights.
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I can't decide if it's incredibly professional or incredibly unprofessional to not comment on how disconnects are the largest reason for a game being a loss - on one hand, Riot hates when it's talked about because the features aren't in place yet, but on the other.. disconnects really do lose games :/
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they should have played on tournament realm and then paused... gg clg fairplay
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On February 12 2012 06:31 SirBlackJack wrote:
they should have played on tournament realm and then paused... gg clg fairplay
Not all the teams (Choppa, V8) have tournament client accounts. This had nothing to do with CLG.
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I think they should implement the pause function into custom games. I mean they implemented replays for tournament organizers....the least they could do is also give them a pause function.
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On February 12 2012 06:34 NeoIllusions wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2012 06:31 SirBlackJack wrote:
they should have played on tournament realm and then paused... gg clg fairplay Not all the teams (Choppa, V8) have tournament client accounts. This had nothing to do with CLG.
That's actually a huge black mark against Riot, then - they not only know about the tournament, but they had a big news post in the client talking all about it. There's no excuse for the teams involved to not be able to play somewhere where the pause feature is enabled, especially when they're playing in a $5,000 tournament. I don't think that any Riot-advertised tournament should be played without pause now that it exists.
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On February 12 2012 06:39 Niton wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2012 06:34 NeoIllusions wrote:On February 12 2012 06:31 SirBlackJack wrote:
they should have played on tournament realm and then paused... gg clg fairplay Not all the teams (Choppa, V8) have tournament client accounts. This had nothing to do with CLG. That's actually a huge black mark against Riot, then - they not only know about the tournament, but they had a big news post in the client talking all about it. There's no excuse for the teams involved to not be able to play somewhere where the pause feature is enabled, especially when they're playing in a $5,000 tournament.
It isn't just Riot's job to give teams tournament client access. It's also Curse's responsibility to ensure that all teams have access to tournament client if they're going to use the tourney client.
http://www.lolpro.com/tournaments/176-curse-presents-the-lol-pro-invitational-tournament/rules
Curse's rules for the tournament seem to indicate that D/Cs will basically just be ignored after the first two minutes and that play will continue as normal. Which could mean that the rest of the games will all be on the NA client instead of the tournament client.
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CLG Bans: Rammus, Ahri, Meowkai
Choppa Bans: KenenHyaaa~, Shyvanananana, Ryze
CLG Picks: GPdaPirrrrate, Janananana, Ashe, #1BirdAnivia, Sejuani TRIPLE-FROST-TEAM
Choppa Picks: Sona, Lux, Tristanana, Udyr, Singed
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so much frost and sona half naked, not looking good.
also, another DC zzZZzz
aaaand another DC
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On February 12 2012 06:46 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
CLG Bans: Rammus, Ahri, Meowkai
Choppa Bans: KenenHyaaa~, Shyvanananana, Ryze
CLG Picks: GPdaPirrrrate, Janananana, Ashe, #1BirdAnivia, Sejuani TRIPLE-FROST-TEAM
Choppa Picks: Sona, Lux, Tristanana, Udyr, Singed
Frost Janna obv. 4th member of team frost, Moonie real sloppy.
Also, they're doing ARAMs, waiting for v8 to finish their solo Q game. I'm already annoyed by Colby, he's such a horrible caster. His voice is barely bearable, he always has a runny nose, he awkwardly laughs after half of his sentences because apparently they're supposed to be any funny, repeats his co-casters or argues with them without actually contributing anything to a discussion... meh.
I don't know. Is it just me or is he extremely annoying?
Just realized I sound like a spoiled prick. Don't get me wrong, I really appreciate the effort and the fact he is trying to do something for the community, I personally just feel he is pretty bad at what he does.
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They should run Nunu top.
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On February 12 2012 07:32 Shiv. wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2012 06:46 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
CLG Bans: Rammus, Ahri, Meowkai
Choppa Bans: KenenHyaaa~, Shyvanananana, Ryze
CLG Picks: GPdaPirrrrate, Janananana, Ashe, #1BirdAnivia, Sejuani TRIPLE-FROST-TEAM
Choppa Picks: Sona, Lux, Tristanana, Udyr, Singed Frost Janna obv. 4th member of team frost, Moonie real sloppy. Also, they're doing ARAMs, waiting for v8 to finish their solo Q game. I'm already annoyed by Colby, he's such a horrible caster. His voice is barely bearable, he always has a runny nose, he awkwardly laughs after half of his sentences because apparently they're supposed to be any funny, repeats his co-casters or argues with them without actually contributing anything to a discussion... meh. I don't know. Is it just me or is he extremely annoying? Just realized I sound like a spoiled prick. Don't get me wrong, I really appreciate the effort and the fact he is trying to do something for the community, I personally just feel he is pretty bad at what he does.
Yeah I'm not a big fan of him either :\ he's the equivalent of HuskyStarcraft in the LoL scene. Got famous on youtube and then every tournament thought it would be a good idea to have him cast
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CLG takes game 2 14/4/11.
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Supaa frost squad victory
CLG's been running that in scrims recently, so I was excited to see it in action with something on the line. Will be interested if they run it against teams they respect more, though Saint did seem to really like Sejuani after he figured out her W has absurd scaling.
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these chinese pictures are confusing
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On February 12 2012 07:54 Seiuchi wrote:
Supaa frost squad victory
CLG's been running that in scrims recently, so I was excited to see it in action with something on the line. Will be interested if they run it against teams they respect more, though Saint did seem to really like Sejuani after he figured out her W has absurd scaling.
What did he build on her?
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P&B in consecutive order.
Bans:
EG: Ryze, Morgana, Sona
v8: Rammus, Kennen, Anivia
Picks:
EG: Corki, Soraka, Amumu, GP, ORIFUCKINGANNA SALCE!
v8: Shyvana, Leona, Sivir, Udyr, Ahri
Colby proving to be as annoying as usual, making fun of his co-caster (Elementz) who, unlike him, is actually an accomplished person within the League scene.
Oh, and that piece of wisdom:
Ele: ''I also call Salce rushing Chalice.''
Colby: ''Yeah, and I wonder wether he's also rushing some MR.''
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On February 12 2012 07:58 Slaughter wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2012 07:54 Seiuchi wrote:
Supaa frost squad victory
CLG's been running that in scrims recently, so I was excited to see it in action with something on the line. Will be interested if they run it against teams they respect more, though Saint did seem to really like Sejuani after he figured out her W has absurd scaling. What did he build on her?
Philo + HoG + Merc's > Shurelya's + Aegis and was building Frozen Heart at the end
Pretty standard Sejuani build
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That's interesting. I'm sure Curse doesn't want players streaming the games since they want all the viewers.
Also thanks for updating the thread while I was away.
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Choppa CLG game spoiled on stream, could've looked at match history either way, but yeah.
+ Show Spoiler +CLG wins 2nd game, 2-0. I expected it, but still want to see it.
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Nice flash+Bear stun by TreeEskimo top to prevent Dyrus' TP!
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v8 invading early and stealing blue, getting first blood and a kill bottom and pretty much snowballing from there. Dan too aggressive too early, I really don't get his obsession with Amumu. (and GP/10 Quints on him, lol.) I think he's way too prone to early invades and v8 had such a strong lvl 1. Udyr stun, Ahri taunt, Leona... I don't know, why pick Mummy when they already have Shyvana, Sivir, Leona locked in?
Edit: he also builds Philo HoG into WotA. What the actual fuck.
Edit 2: INTO A FUCKING ABYSSAL. DAN'S A MADMAN.
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Dan Dinh is completely. and utterly. insane.
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On February 12 2012 08:25 Two_DoWn wrote:
Dan Dinh is completely. and utterly. insane.
But not exactly in a good way :/
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This game is awesome. Also got TreeEskimo's stream going to hear V8 vent. They have pretty awesome teamwork, kinda sound like CLG eu
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Yeah... EpiK...
This is what happens to talent but no practice.
V8, looking almost Goose's level. Definitely near to top of A Tier for NA.
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On February 12 2012 08:31 NeoIllusions wrote:
Yeah... EpiK...
This is what happens to talent but no practice.
V8, looking almost Goose's level. Definitely near to top of A Tier for NA.
No, thats what happens when dan gets to do stupid shit.
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Yeah, was watching TreeEskimo's stream - V8 had a lot of offensive summoners (3 Ignites and either Exhaust or Heal) while EG had stuff like CV/TP/Cleanse, which let them invade blue with impunity (after warding the entrance to their own so it wasn't a blue trade); Dan kept falling further and further behind. He once came up top vaguely thinking about ganking TreeEskimo's Udyr, who was SEVEN levels above him and had TriForce. He looked even sadder than Amumu usually does :/
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On February 12 2012 08:31 NeoIllusions wrote:
Yeah... EpiK...
This is what happens to talent but no practice.
V8, looking almost Goose's level. Definitely near to top of A Tier for NA.
Speaking of talent, how did you guiys like Salce's Orianna? I think he played the game pretty well. I would have loved to see a Chalice against Ahri, but I guess he decided not to get it because of her true damage. I think that was a mistake because if I'm not completely mistaken, TakashiX took a page out of Froggen & co's books and maxed W. Anyways, there was this fight where he chased Sivir and Colby and Elementz where going on about how he should have used his W to speed up. He had a blue buff, but I think in that situation he wasn't aware Sivir was already so far away and counted on catching her either in the tribrush with a QW or after she was heading south towards her tower. In either situation, I think his W would have been on cooldown if he had used it to speed up. He was simply misjudging Sivir's advantage in distance and thus misplayed the situation.
Anyway, what I'm trying to say is: I think he played the game pretty well and Salce's mad good and should get more appreciation.
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On February 12 2012 08:36 Shiv. wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2012 08:31 NeoIllusions wrote:
Yeah... EpiK...
This is what happens to talent but no practice.
V8, looking almost Goose's level. Definitely near to top of A Tier for NA. Speaking of talent, how did you guiys like Salce's Orianna? I think he played the game pretty well. I would have loved to see a Chalice against Ahri, but I guess he decided not to get it because of her true damage. I think that was a mistake because if I'm not completely mistaken, TakashiX took a page out of Froggen & co's books and maxed W. Anyways, there was this fight where he chased Sivir and Colby and Elementz where going on about how he should have used his W to speed up. He had a blue buff, but I think in that situation he wasn't aware Sivir was already so far away and counted on catching her either in the tribrush with a QW or after she was heading south towards her tower. In either situation, I think his W would have been on cooldown if he had used it to speed up. He was simply misjudging Sivir's advantage in distance and thus misplayed the situation. Anyway, what I'm trying to say is: I think he played the game pretty well and Salce's mad good and should get more appreciation.
Considering TD's raging hardon for Salce, I'm sure he's appreciated enough, huehue.
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I just can't believe they'd let Dan rush fucking WotA on Amumu - if you want to go for oddball strats, rush RoA or something to deal with the lack of blue, not go straight AP -_-. Amumu can do some variant Sapphire+2 routes if he knows he can't contest his first blue, so IDK why Dan didn't think of something like that ahead of time.
Then again, Dan's actually kind of a terrible jungler who doesn't really know what to build on any of the current common ones - I saw him do Thornmail-first Rammus recently.
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Bans:
EG: Ryze, Ahri, Skarner
v8: Shyvana, Rammus, Vlad
Picks:
EG: Sona, Corki, Malphite, Kennen, ORISALCEFUCKINGANNA
v8: Nocturne, MF, Leona, Udyr, Kassadin
On February 12 2012 08:41 Niton wrote:
Then again, I saw him do Thornmail-first Rammus recently.
Wat. Dan does really really weird stuff sometimes. I mean, GP 10 Quints on Amumu. AP/lvl Reds on Heimer. Who does that?
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Game 2:
EG: bans ryze, ahri, skarner
Picks: Sona, Corki, Malph, Kennen (dyrus), Ori
V8 bans: Shyv, Rammus, Vlad
Picks: Noct, MF, Leona, Udyr, Kass
Lol, I'm too slow Wasn't sure who V8's last pick was cause of Colby's chinese art.
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It can work in lane where building weird shit can be counteracted by working it well, getting lots of gold, and using your skill to outplay people.
It DOES NOT work in jungle because you already have a lower income and need to maximize the efficiency of your gold expenditure. Its why cloth 5 is a bad buy now, and why you need to plan out your build as you go.
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On February 12 2012 08:41 Niton wrote:
I just can't believe they'd let Dan rush fucking WotA on Amumu - if you want to go for oddball strats, rush RoA or something to deal with the lack of blue, not go straight AP -_-. Amumu can do some variant Sapphire+2 routes if he knows he can't contest his first blue, so IDK why Dan didn't think of something like that ahead of time.
Then again, Dan's actually kind of a terrible jungler who doesn't really know what to build on any of the current common ones - I saw him do Thornmail-first Rammus recently.
I would question my own closed-mindedness before I questioned Dan's item selection. Dan's been playing this game since beta--while he has many flaws, game understanding isn't one of them.
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Elementz saying you don't see this early aggression...should have continued, in the US servers.
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LOL from V8 vent
"Yo, Westrice sucks dick, he didn't even cleanse anything right there"
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On February 12 2012 08:47 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2012 08:41 Niton wrote:
I just can't believe they'd let Dan rush fucking WotA on Amumu - if you want to go for oddball strats, rush RoA or something to deal with the lack of blue, not go straight AP -_-. Amumu can do some variant Sapphire+2 routes if he knows he can't contest his first blue, so IDK why Dan didn't think of something like that ahead of time.
Then again, Dan's actually kind of a terrible jungler who doesn't really know what to build on any of the current common ones - I saw him do Thornmail-first Rammus recently. I would question my own closed-mindedness before I questioned Dan's item selection. Dan's been playing this game since beta--while he has many flaws, game understanding isn't one of them.
I would normally agree, but Dan does some things that are so far removed from the combined understanding of every high level jungler, and invariably those ideas tend to not only not work, but also cause him to end the game as dead weight on his team. I wouldn't ever judge someone who did something weird and did okay with it, but a pattern of shit like Red Pot Nocturne and WotA Amumu really makes me question if Dan does any sort of proper math or testing with his builds before sending them out into the wild.
Variant builds are awesome - I love trying out unorthodox things, and if they work good I might use them in an actual game, but I can't even imagine what was going through Dan's head when he decided what he needed was 20% spellvamp.
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In other news, Nhat Nguyen Carry Sona activated.
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Where's fakesteve? he'd love this.
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On February 12 2012 09:01 Dgiese wrote:
Where's fakesteve? he'd love this.
Haha damn right.
I'm with Two_Down on this by the way, Salce's sick.
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Salce is soooo good. He wrecking Takashi's Kass.
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On February 12 2012 08:55 Dgiese wrote:
LOL from V8 vent
"Yo, Westrice sucks dick, he didn't even cleanse anything right there"
Well yeah, he tries to cleanse leona e when they know the q and an ignite is coming right after
Ok someone really needs to teach westrice when to cleanse
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Dat Ultimate Salce. Dat Ultimate.
Watch and learn.
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Salce so patient, keeping ult and then BOOM.
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Colby constantly yelling over Elementz, almost seems like he's bringing down his mic volume. These guys aren't working great as a team so far.
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watching salce play makes me happy.
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Wow, that Ori ulti turns a close fight into a rout in Eg's favor.
Salce OP needes nerf.
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On February 12 2012 09:10 Shiv. wrote:
Dat Ultimate Salce. Dat Ultimate.
Watch and learn.
Dayum son, that did SOOO much damage. Salce is imo the best Ap player in the world.
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On February 12 2012 09:11 iCanada wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2012 09:10 Shiv. wrote:
Dat Ultimate Salce. Dat Ultimate.
Watch and learn. Dayum son, that did SOOO much damage. Salce is imo the best Ap player in the world.
And besides the fact his Ori is a bliss to watch, the kid's just so laid back. Dyrus once put it this way: ''Oh, I think he's just that High School boy who goes out and fucks Volleyball Girls or something.''
Read that in a Dyrus voice. Seriously.
Nice rockets by Westrice, picking up the double kill at their turret.
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Westrice catching back up and then some.
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Salce is like..npnpnp have some more ult
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Ooooooh Salce shields Malphite, who ults into 3 of v8 behind their turret, Salce presses RW and goes apeshit crazy.
In other news, EG building double Locket.
Awwww and v8 going for the base race when EG did Baron, EG dgaf, finish Baron and run to v8s base and finish.
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Holy shit that was a close base race. EG barely takes it because they went Baron first.
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THAT BASE RACE! epic ending!
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HOLY CRAP, THAT WAS INSANE!!!
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LOLOLOL. EG wins the base race by like the thinnest of margins. They were slower getting to the nexus but their damage was just higher.
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Closest race ive seen yet lol
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BAAASE RAAACE, closest ever seen! Corki's Triforce proc takes out the last 1/6ish and wins the game!
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Wow, that base race was a terrible decision by Epik, but it worked at least.  Closest shit ever.
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so close! What a base race....
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Yeah EG almost throws the game but luckily holds on
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holy crap....
that was so awesome.
I pooped.
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That V8 call was just right on. Too bad they were just a few seconds too slow!!!
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On February 12 2012 09:27 Takkara wrote:
Yeah EG almost throws the game but luckily holds on
All planned.
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Dat triforce proc for the win... Most exciting match i've watched in a while. Go EG in game 3!
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Just caught the ending too :D
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And suddenly, I'm so missing Deman/Jatt duo on the mic.
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On February 12 2012 09:35 daemir wrote:
And suddenly, I'm so missing Deman/Jatt duo on the mic.
Ya, ele doesnt know his stuff, and colby is worse.
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P&B in consecutive order.
Bans:
EG: Shyvana, Ryze, Leona
v8: Rammus, Kennen, Vlad
Picks:
EG: Corki, Sona, Malphite, ORISALCEFUCKINGANNA, Rumble.
v8: Sona, Udyr, Trist, Nocturne, Ahri
I was hoping for Dyrus to pick Rumble. I think he does quite well on him and he's good against Udyr.
On February 12 2012 09:35 daemir wrote:
And suddenly, I'm so missing Deman/Jatt duo on the mic.
Very true, I really grew fond of especially Jatt during the Kings of Europe tournament and Deman has stepped up quite a bit compared to his earlier performances. I'm still not his biggest fan, but I don't mind him next to Jatt because they harmonized relatively well.
Really really true. Deman has stepped up quite a bit
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Casters make me sad.
Instead mute steam and listen to epic music.
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All this hard-on about amumu, it's 35 MR from his autoattacks, it's not like he suddenly blanket debuffs everyone on the map, jesus.
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Salce tries to land another team killing ultimate... but forgets he's still level 1 and feeds FB
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Whats with the hate on malphite? I think aside from Mumu's ulti Malphite is better, plus V8 picking so AD heavy which makes Malph really friggen good.
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On February 12 2012 09:37 Lancer723 wrote:
Casters make me sad.
Instead mute steam and listen to epic music.
http://www.own3d.tv/TreeEskimo#/live/6377
If you wanna listen to V8 vent chat instead. I find it a lot more tolerable.
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Am I missing something? I feel like Nocturne is generally considered a very weak jungler currently and Malphite is considered okay but these casters just constantly talking up Noc.
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this chinese art is really making me angry for some reason ><
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On February 12 2012 09:43 iCanada wrote:
Whats with the hate on malphite? I think aside from Mumu's ulti Malphite is better, plus V8 picking so AD heavy which makes Malph really friggen good.
I think it's mainly that the casters are bad. Mumu gets his first blue taken and is a sad mummy, even though he CAN start stuff like Sapphire 2 pots, you ideally don't want to.
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Caster Minion OP, ballsy play by that trist.
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They totally missed Ahri vs Ori 1v1 as they ran through river trying to countergank
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Wow that Salce ult as Ahri tries to blink away ...
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And Malphite + Orianna are just like "nope." and crush Ahri as she checks blue. Dragon goes to CLG as Dyrus comes in from behind and grabs another kill.
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Ahri facecheck enemy blue so hard.
Rumble ulti in the jungle just too strong as well.
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TreeEskimo is super pushed up with no wards, I don't understand why EG doesn't just come from behind and own him.
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On February 12 2012 10:00 arnath wrote:
TreeEskimo is super pushed up with no wards, I don't understand why EG doesn't just come from behind and own him.
Because then they give up dragon for free, basically. Dragon>1 kill.
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On February 12 2012 09:44 arnath wrote:
Am I missing something? I feel like Nocturne is generally considered a very weak jungler currently and Malphite is considered okay but these casters just constantly talking up Noc.
Noc is still fantastic in the jungle, a top tier duelist, and has the most devastatig ult in the game IMO
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such a clean teamfight by EG
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EG really playing their comp out to the fullest. Salce cries for an Ori ban. Well played, despite their apparent lack of practice.
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On February 12 2012 10:09 gtrsrs wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2012 09:44 arnath wrote:
Am I missing something? I feel like Nocturne is generally considered a very weak jungler currently and Malphite is considered okay but these casters just constantly talking up Noc. Noc is still fantastic in the jungle, a top tier duelist, and has the most devastatig ult in the game IMO
Well, most devastating after amumu, annie, oriana, gangplank, rumble, sej, and about 15 others.
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On February 12 2012 10:09 gtrsrs wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2012 09:44 arnath wrote:
Am I missing something? I feel like Nocturne is generally considered a very weak jungler currently and Malphite is considered okay but these casters just constantly talking up Noc. Noc is still fantastic in the jungle, a top tier duelist, and has the most devastatig ult in the game IMO
Ahaha nocturne's ult isn't even the most devastating in this game. It's an ultimate level gap closer and nothing more, and it's very easy for most carries to get out of the tether and burst him down. It's really good against disorganized teams thanks to the blinding but it's pretty crap otherwise.
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EG won but didnt look too crisp. Also that ari face check.. why?
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Salce makes me want to get good at ori again. Two out of three games he was pretty well just camped and the focus was to avoid having him fed, and he still sooooo goood.
I so bad at Ori, she feels so weak to me. Maybe I need to run different runes or something.
*Goes and looks at Salce's runepages.*
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V8 discussing that ahri facecheck now in vent. They pretty angry that ahri didn't stick with the rest of them.
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Ahri had a 2 - 0 lead and pretty much threw it. If she had kept harrassing mid salce couldn't have gotten that farmed..
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Pretty interested to see voyboy pick irelia against kennen. Wouldn't think that is a strong pick. Will be interesting to see how that plays out.
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stream speeding up for anyone or just me?
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On February 12 2012 10:41 nojitosunrise wrote:
stream speeding up for anyone or just me?
Spectator on live is kinda broken and freezes from time to time aswell as speeding up.
The semi finals of the other tournament earlier even had obs getting dced midgame.
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are these guys really eating while casting a 25k$ tournament? -.-
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HEY NEO
NEO
NEOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Guess who relfex' mid is.
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omg what voyboy just did with irelia was just crazy...
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RFLX playing so scared. It's really frustrating to watch, because I feel like they're going to lose mainly because they've been too afraid to fight for anything.
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Dignitas seem the most solid team so far. Should take the second game without big problems. TSM vs Goose.. Goose is always good for a suprise.
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Salce makes me want to play Ori again.
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Just found out about this right now and trying to avoid spoilers, so without any results can someone tell me if Epik played with their full line up or more of the constant sub crap?
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On February 12 2012 11:35 SirBlackJack wrote:
full
sexy
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for 25k EG finally decided to play serious
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Scarra now just derping around lol. Ace seals the deal. D takes it 2-0. Next up goose boyz vs. baylife boyz
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I had sound muted. Did Colby say the stream was going to go offline or is this an unexpected event?
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On February 12 2012 12:16 Craton wrote:
I had sound muted. Did Colby say the stream was going to go offline or is this an unexpected event?
I think his computer crashed.
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Colbys computer started to make weird beeping sounds and then it went offline...should be up again soon I guess.
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uhm, looks bad or his PC is really slow at booting oO
OK, he is back and the sound is even more annoying than normally.
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On February 12 2012 10:12 TwoToneTerran wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2012 10:09 gtrsrs wrote:On February 12 2012 09:44 arnath wrote:
Am I missing something? I feel like Nocturne is generally considered a very weak jungler currently and Malphite is considered okay but these casters just constantly talking up Noc. Noc is still fantastic in the jungle, a top tier duelist, and has the most devastatig ult in the game IMO Ahaha nocturne's ult isn't even the most devastating in this game. It's an ultimate level gap closer and nothing more, and it's very easy for most carries to get out of the tether and burst him down. It's really good against disorganized teams thanks to the blinding but it's pretty crap otherwise.
I think his (and graves) blindness is the only thing in the game that can't be countered by anything.
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On February 12 2012 12:23 gtrsrs wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2012 10:12 TwoToneTerran wrote:On February 12 2012 10:09 gtrsrs wrote:On February 12 2012 09:44 arnath wrote:
Am I missing something? I feel like Nocturne is generally considered a very weak jungler currently and Malphite is considered okay but these casters just constantly talking up Noc. Noc is still fantastic in the jungle, a top tier duelist, and has the most devastatig ult in the game IMO Ahaha nocturne's ult isn't even the most devastating in this game. It's an ultimate level gap closer and nothing more, and it's very easy for most carries to get out of the tether and burst him down. It's really good against disorganized teams thanks to the blinding but it's pretty crap otherwise. I think his (and graves) blindness is the only thing in the game that can't be countered by anything.
I feel like Graves' blind effect is way stronger than Nocturne's, because it fucks with targeting and sight to a far higher level than Nocturne's can. IMO they should add a reduced vision (250-300 range) component to Teemo's blinding dart, too!
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Wow nice play from Reg and TOO there!
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On February 12 2012 12:36 LaNague wrote:
who is the new caster?
Sounds like Jatt. edit: but it's apparently not.
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Everytime Elementz says Mayo-kai I laugh.
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Really good team fights over objectives so far!
TSM and Goose trading 2 for 2 over dragon, with TSM taking the dragon afterwards.
26min: Goose [31k] 7 - 9 [35k] TSM
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Atlanta's Trist is doing some big work.
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TSM closing it out, really good game from both sides!
Ah, so caster is Hawkeye. Pretty good so far.
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Hmm wasn't Xpecial saying that Ahri wasn't that great in team games on Sotl? Seems like scrimming with EU may have changed their mind.
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Man, Atlanta is such a boss... Plays a sick trist... also plays a sick shaco. Now he's playing Cass, he's such a solid player.
Is it annoying anyone else the way Elementz says maokai? Cause I'm REALLY getting sick of it.
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Wow maokai really far behind after two failed ganks where he died both times. One bot giving blue buff to Graves and it was FB then a fail gank bot when he took too much damage from tower and GP ult.
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Been at work but are they really not even on the semi-finals yet? They're really far behind. Oh, unless the OP was suppose to say PST and not EST?
edit:
Haha, I'm an idiot and can't read dates. Thanks Neo.
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On February 12 2012 13:54 overt wrote:
Been at work but are they really not even on the semi-finals yet? They're really far behind. Oh, unless the OP was suppose to say PST and not EST?
Semis are next week.
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On February 12 2012 13:40 Dgiese wrote:
Man, Atlanta is such a boss... Plays a sick trist... also plays a sick shaco. Now he's playing Cass, he's such a solid player.
Is it annoying anyone else the way Elementz says maokai? Cause I'm REALLY getting sick of it.
He's egging us on with his talk about Mayo Kai.
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And TSM with their huge lead forces two fights at Baron. One where they go 2-1 then back off then another one later where Regi is able to stall them when Goose had no vision of Baron long enough for the rest of TSM to get Baron. After getting Baron they chase down Goose and kill a few push to take one inhib then Goose surrenders.
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I hope Elementz never casts another game with a Maokai in it.
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First semifinals, CLG vs TSM, starts in 10 minutes.
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Vancouver14381 Posts
Game 1
Bans
CLG - Maokai, Cassiopeia, Alistar
TSM - Sona, Ryze, Kog'Maw
Picks
CLG - Shen, Caitlyn, Anivia, Galio, Irelia
TSM - Miss Fortune, Janna, Shyvana, Sion, Udy
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CLG
jungle shen
cait
anivia
support galio
irelia
TSM
mf
janna
jungle shyvana
udyr
sion
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Twitch lagging as always... they may have nice community support but why people are still using Twitch is beyond me.
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13 minutes in. TSM is pulling ~2k gold ahead because of early agressive jungle shyv/sion play. But I feel like CLG has the better teamfighting/lategame.
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Chaox forever MF. High CS in game at 144.
HSGG getting romped by Raindyr
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On February 19 2012 08:33 NeoIllusions wrote:
Chaox forever MF. High CS in game at 144.
HSGG getting romped by Raindyr
not really his fault tho he got dived by 3 people at level 3.
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Manly Regi. Dives Cait with Flash and dies for TSM so they can get free Drag.
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K colbi is worse than phreak when it comes to spectating. And I didnt think it was possible.
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No ones noticed Saintvicious pushing bottom, says that OddOne missed an ulty when he forced a flash from doublelift... ZZZ
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Support Galio leading the charge.
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Oddone's cs all game makes me so sad
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And TOO has no clue how to build shyv. No Wits? Really?
And TSM still trying to play zergy early game comps. Its just pathetic.
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Jiji dies to baron and Regi steps in a trap and dies lol
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On February 19 2012 08:53 Two_DoWn wrote:
And TSM still trying to play zergy early game comps. Its just pathetic.
BUT BUT BUT BUT.... SNOWBALL META!
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Is this prepatch? or post patch? nautilus?
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On February 19 2012 08:57 Woony wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2012 08:53 Two_DoWn wrote:
And TSM still trying to play zergy early game comps. Its just pathetic. BUT BUT BUT BUT.... SNOWBALL META!
Just cementing WHY TSM will never be the best team in the world. They just arent that smart.
And its on live I believe- judging by people's names.
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On February 19 2012 08:53 Two_DoWn wrote:
And TOO has no clue how to build shyv. No Wits? Really?
And TSM still trying to play zergy early game comps. Its just pathetic.
BAYLIFE!! SNOWBALLS OP YO!
I dunno why they think every early advantage means they auto win. It silly, they pick team with mediocre late game power curve then didn't push hard early for victory.
Gold relatively even, but Cait poop on MF late game, and Sion drop off too. They have no klate game deeps.
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Liking Clg's double tank comp.
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I don't even get why oddone is playing shyvanna. Until TSM changes the way they see the jungler, he can't play shyvanna. He's not tanky, he doesn't do dmg
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clg just proved how they do understand this game better than TSM, just like always
few practice a week > game house + scrims everyday, huehuehue
glad reginald got raped
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MF got what seems to be a late wriggle's too. I don't quite understand it =/
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CHAUSTER LIVES? :O, and JIJI lives? :O omg, .....
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On February 19 2012 09:02 emucxg wrote:
clg just proved how do they understand this game better than TSM, just like always
few practice a week > game house + scrims everyday, huehuehue
glad reginald got raped
CLG reminds me of an allstar team, I think they have the strongest lane phases in the game. Really really strong individual players, but they're overall teamwork is meh, still enough to beat tsm.
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On February 19 2012 09:03 wei2coolman wrote:
CHAUSTER LIVES? :O, and JIJI lives? :O omg, .....
But hotshot dies, Everything normal and according to plan lol
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On February 19 2012 09:04 OreoBoi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2012 09:03 wei2coolman wrote:
CHAUSTER LIVES? :O, and JIJI lives? :O omg, ..... But hotshot dies, Everything normal and according to plan lol
And all is right in the world.
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My guess on the wriggles on DLift was that he had the money for a wriggles but not a BT. Figuring that his next back he would probably be able to sell and buy the BT- why not just get wriggles for the armor and bit of extra ad.
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On February 19 2012 09:05 Two_DoWn wrote:
My guess on the wriggles on DLift was that he had the money for a wriggles but not a BT. Figuring that his next back he would probably be able to sell and buy the BT- why not just get wriggles for the armor and bit of extra ad.
Hmm good point, He probably also felt that that last back was gunna be the last back of the game, considering how the game was going.
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On February 19 2012 09:04 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2012 09:02 emucxg wrote:
clg just proved how do they understand this game better than TSM, just like always
few practice a week > game house + scrims everyday, huehuehue
glad reginald got raped CLG reminds me of an allstar team, I think they have the strongest lane phases in the game. Really really strong individual players, but they're overall teamwork is meh, still enough to beat tsm.
Naw. Salce>jiji, Dyrus>HSGG, Chaox/Xpecial>Chau/dlift. Only area where CLG is stronger than everyone else is in Jungle.
Problem with TSM is that they just REALLY arent that smart and dont understand how the game works. Kind of odd to say, but given the way they keep gimping themselves, it has to be said.
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Notepad Banner real ghetto from Coby lol. What happened to pretty artistic banners?
On February 19 2012 09:07 Two_DoWn wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2012 09:04 wei2coolman wrote:On February 19 2012 09:02 emucxg wrote:
clg just proved how do they understand this game better than TSM, just like always
few practice a week > game house + scrims everyday, huehuehue
glad reginald got raped CLG reminds me of an allstar team, I think they have the strongest lane phases in the game. Really really strong individual players, but they're overall teamwork is meh, still enough to beat tsm. Naw. Salce>jiji, Dyrus>HSGG, Chaox/Xpecial>Chau/dlift. Only area where CLG is stronger than everyone else is in Jungle. Problem with TSM is that they just REALLY arent that smart and dont understand how the game works. Kind of odd to say, but given the way they keep gimping themselves, it has to be said.
Too much reliance on Regi. And TOO is constantly asked to camp lanes for them to help lanes win.
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On February 19 2012 09:05 Two_DoWn wrote:
My guess on the wriggles on DLift was that he had the money for a wriggles but not a BT. Figuring that his next back he would probably be able to sell and buy the BT- why not just get wriggles for the armor and bit of extra ad.
This sounds right. My guess is that he sensed the next fight was going to decide the game, so he'd rather have a Wriggles than sit on a vamp sceptor.
edit: too slow!
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IMO the best thing that TSM could do would be to have scrims where TOO is not allowed to gank or buy wards. He needs to learn how to farm.
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On February 19 2012 09:04 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2012 09:02 emucxg wrote:
clg just proved how do they understand this game better than TSM, just like always
few practice a week > game house + scrims everyday, huehuehue
glad reginald got raped CLG reminds me of an allstar team, I think they have the strongest lane phases in the game. Really really strong individual players, but they're overall teamwork is meh, still enough to beat tsm.
CLG is like the best team of using AOE comps, while TSM is known of taking advantage of early game and snow ball into late game. TSM is like auto-lost team honestly if they cant win the early game.
on other hand, I've seen tons of comebacks from CLG, their communication is meh i do agree, but they all have great knowledge of positioning in the team fight.
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CLG had the perfect team comp to back up shen splitpush. This is why Shen is permaban.
TSM played the super early aggression composition, but CLG did what they had to to survive and won with a solid strategy and excellent execution. TSM didn't respond to shen split push, danced around too much, and engaged bad fights whenever Shen got close to thier towers.
All that said, if TSM is able to get that baron that Saint and Hotshot stopped, this was a different last 20 minutes.
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has TOO hit 200 cs with udyr or shyvana like ever? if your team or your playstyle refuses to take advantage of the strengths of a farming jungler i think you have to pick someone else.
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...TOO should stick to junglers like Mao, I mean his style is to play junglers that help win lanes, not carry jungle
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Elementz doesn't realize they're banning out Kog for jiji's AP Kog poke all day always win huehuehue
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On February 19 2012 09:11 chalice wrote:
has TOO hit 200 cs with udyr or shyvana like ever? if your team or your playstyle refuses to take advantage of the strengths of a farming jungler i think you have to pick someone else.
TOO took all time to clean wards with his oracle + take dragon.
late game no-one can stop farmed&overbuffed shen
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On February 19 2012 09:14 CeriseCherries wrote:
...TOO should stick to junglers like Mao, I mean his style is to play junglers that help win lanes, not carry jungle
Mao would be much much better, TSM had only few CC to stop galio ulti.
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On February 19 2012 09:15 emucxg wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2012 09:11 chalice wrote:
has TOO hit 200 cs with udyr or shyvana like ever? if your team or your playstyle refuses to take advantage of the strengths of a farming jungler i think you have to pick someone else. TOO took all time to clean wards with his oracle + take dragon. late game no-one can stop farmed&overbuffed shen
Probably not, but no one can stopped farmed dragonbitch either.
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God. Now I have to suffer through TOO's LS. This is gonna suck.
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TSM Bans: Ryze, Koggles, GP
CLG Bans: Shen, Meowkai, CassiOPeia
TSM Picks: Sona, MF, Lee Sin, Kennen, Ahri
CLG Picks: Janna, Udyr, Ashe, Irelia, VEIGAR TINY MASTER OF DOOM AHAHAHAHAHAHA
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I just dont get chaox's obession with MF, what does she have better than other ad past earlygame? :/
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On February 19 2012 09:18 BobMcJohnson wrote:
I just dont get chaox's obession with MF, what does she have better than other ad past earlygame? :/
Gigantic boobs.
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On February 19 2012 09:17 Two_DoWn wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2012 09:15 emucxg wrote:On February 19 2012 09:11 chalice wrote:
has TOO hit 200 cs with udyr or shyvana like ever? if your team or your playstyle refuses to take advantage of the strengths of a farming jungler i think you have to pick someone else. TOO took all time to clean wards with his oracle + take dragon. late game no-one can stop farmed&overbuffed shen Probably not, but no one can stopped farmed dragonbitch either.
dragon isnt even as tanky as maokai&shen imho
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I don't understand how OddOne keeps picking these junglers that don't suit him like Lee Sin and Shyv and why he doesn't embrace his role in life and diversify the way he plays well with Sejuani and Nautilus.
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On February 19 2012 09:19 emucxg wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2012 09:17 Two_DoWn wrote:On February 19 2012 09:15 emucxg wrote:On February 19 2012 09:11 chalice wrote:
has TOO hit 200 cs with udyr or shyvana like ever? if your team or your playstyle refuses to take advantage of the strengths of a farming jungler i think you have to pick someone else. TOO took all time to clean wards with his oracle + take dragon. late game no-one can stop farmed&overbuffed shen Probably not, but no one can stopped farmed dragonbitch either. dragon isnt even as tanky as maokai&shen imho
Whelp, you're wrong then.
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On February 19 2012 09:21 Seiuchi wrote:
I don't understand how OddOne keeps picking these junglers that don't suit him like Lee Sin and Shyv and why he doesn't embrace his role in life and diversify the way he plays well with Sejuani and Nautilus.
I think it's his own solo queue bias. If he just looked at snoopeh he'd realize his playstyle and the way his team needs him to play means he should be playing stuff like allistar or maokai.
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On February 19 2012 09:18 BobMcJohnson wrote:
I just dont get chaox's obession with MF, what does she have better than other ad past earlygame? :/
He's too hung up on the whole snowball meta concept and thinks that playing an earlygame bully like mf to snowball is the way to go.
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On February 19 2012 09:22 OreoBoi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2012 09:21 Seiuchi wrote:
I don't understand how OddOne keeps picking these junglers that don't suit him like Lee Sin and Shyv and why he doesn't embrace his role in life and diversify the way he plays well with Sejuani and Nautilus. I think it's his own solo queue bias. If he just looked at snoopeh he'd realize his playstyle and the way his team needs him to play means he should be playing stuff like allistar or maokai.
Yar- Snoopeh plays that style WAY better than TOO does. Hell, even SV plays that style better than TOO now.
TOO just kind of seems lost to me- he forgot what made him who he is.
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On February 19 2012 09:18 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
TSM Bans: Ryze, Koggles, GP
CLG Bans: Shen, Meowkai, CassiOPeia
TSM Picks: Sona, MF, Lee Sin, Kennen, Ahri
CLG Picks: Janna, Udyr, Ashe, Irelia, VEIGAR TINY MASTER OF DOOM AHAHAHAHAHAHA
Is koggles kog?
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On February 19 2012 09:22 Two_DoWn wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2012 09:19 emucxg wrote:On February 19 2012 09:17 Two_DoWn wrote:On February 19 2012 09:15 emucxg wrote:On February 19 2012 09:11 chalice wrote:
has TOO hit 200 cs with udyr or shyvana like ever? if your team or your playstyle refuses to take advantage of the strengths of a farming jungler i think you have to pick someone else. TOO took all time to clean wards with his oracle + take dragon. late game no-one can stop farmed&overbuffed shen Probably not, but no one can stopped farmed dragonbitch either. dragon isnt even as tanky as maokai&shen imho Whelp, you're wrong then.
well, oddone sucks then, mid game shyvana got outplayed by shen with even CS + 4 dragon advantage.
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On February 19 2012 09:24 HeroHenry wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2012 09:18 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
TSM Bans: Ryze, Koggles, GP
CLG Bans: Shen, Meowkai, CassiOPeia
TSM Picks: Sona, MF, Lee Sin, Kennen, Ahri
CLG Picks: Janna, Udyr, Ashe, Irelia, VEIGAR TINY MASTER OF DOOM AHAHAHAHAHAHA Is koggles kog?
Yah. I use a lot of nicknames for champions, sorry, haha.
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On February 19 2012 09:24 emucxg wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2012 09:22 Two_DoWn wrote:On February 19 2012 09:19 emucxg wrote:On February 19 2012 09:17 Two_DoWn wrote:On February 19 2012 09:15 emucxg wrote:On February 19 2012 09:11 chalice wrote:
has TOO hit 200 cs with udyr or shyvana like ever? if your team or your playstyle refuses to take advantage of the strengths of a farming jungler i think you have to pick someone else. TOO took all time to clean wards with his oracle + take dragon. late game no-one can stop farmed&overbuffed shen Probably not, but no one can stopped farmed dragonbitch either. dragon isnt even as tanky as maokai&shen imho Whelp, you're wrong then. well, oddone sucks then, mid game shyvana got outplayed by shen with even CS + 4 dragon advantage.
And suddenly emucxg has an epiphany. Glad I could help.
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On February 19 2012 09:24 HeroHenry wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2012 09:18 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
TSM Bans: Ryze, Koggles, GP
CLG Bans: Shen, Meowkai, CassiOPeia
TSM Picks: Sona, MF, Lee Sin, Kennen, Ahri
CLG Picks: Janna, Udyr, Ashe, Irelia, VEIGAR TINY MASTER OF DOOM AHAHAHAHAHAHA Is koggles kog?
Koggles, Goggles for Kog.
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looks like another clg win.... SV is simply too strong.
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Udyr + Janna = Saint God Mode
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Hmm, why clg choose ashe?
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Nvm, that teamfight answered my question.
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4-0 and first dragon for CLG. When TSM doesn't play their early game comps they get crushed early anyway lol.
SV already with Oracles.
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nice play by CLG
that was outplayed rolf
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Points of note:
- SaintV starts his own Wraiths, then jacks TSM Blue. TSM go take CLG Blue a few minutes in after pushing in mid+bot lane. Ahri forced to burn Flash though.
- SaintV comes around the back. Flash-Stun-VEIGARAHAHAHAHA = First Blood.
- TMS pushes bot lane in hard constantly. CS lead.
- Udyr comes top and Kennen has to burn Flash. 2 minutes later, he comes back and Kennen dies.
- TSM try to take CLG's second Blue. Ashe Arrow + VEIGARSTUNAHAHAHAHA = TSM forced to split. Sona picked off, and they take out MF as well as TSM runs. TSM forced to base, CLG take no damage, then take Dragon and their blue at their leisure.
- Regi tries to jack Blue, fails.
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I love the new item bought animation for spec mode. :3
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On February 19 2012 09:40 wei2coolman wrote:
Nvm, that teamfight answered my question.
More to this game than winning your lane.
Dont tell TSM though. They dont want to hear it.
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I wonder why HSGG chose irelia... He should've let TRM play irelia. huehuehuehuehuehue.
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On February 19 2012 09:41 NeoIllusions wrote:
I love the new item bought animation for spec mode. :3
Yar. Its pretty sweet.
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Regi missing all of his skill shots... zzzz
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Elementz seems quite biased against CLG.
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On February 19 2012 09:43 Two_DoWn wrote:
AD toplane Kennen btw.
Why against Irelia? Anyone have any idea?
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- Regi blows everything trying to kill Veigar but fails.
- TSM Bot lane with 30 cs advantage 11 minutes in.
- Rainman going AD Kennen with Doran Stack and Madreds? Huh?
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On February 19 2012 09:43 ketchup wrote:
Elementz seems quite biased against CLG.
He's still butthurt.
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SNOWBALL META, look something i already hate hearing and I've only heard it the past 5 minutes.
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On February 19 2012 09:43 ketchup wrote:
Elementz seems quite biased against CLG.
Don't think so I mean he's talking about how well Saint is playing, He's just bashing the Ashe pick. Though I think the Ashe pick is not nearly as bad as he's making it out to be.
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On February 19 2012 09:45 hasuprotoss wrote:
SNOWBALL META, look something i already hate hearing and I've only heard it the past 5 minutes.
Yeah, that term should be banned from usage.
It's not like they're buying mejais....
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Lol, first time i see TOO in the game, at 17 mins mark.. what has he been doing..
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HSGG + SV pushes outer and inner turret down... damn. yeah, that was a bad mistake by TSM.
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- Oracles totally taking map control.
- Regi goes top, zones Irelia. Take top tower.
- CLG take Dragon.
- MF Crit forces Double away from tower. 4 man TSM take bot tower.
- SaintV+Irelia take top tower in response.
- TSM push bot inner tower but can't push against Janna + Ashe. Irelia+Udyr push top inner in response. Regi burns ignite for no reason.
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On February 19 2012 09:48 qanik wrote:
Lol, first time i see TOO in the game, at 17 mins mark.. what has he been doing..
He hasn't had a chance to gank anyone due to all of his team pushing hard.
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TSM not making good calls. 5 man bot gets stopped by 2 CLG.
HS and saint take out top towers unoppressed.
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What's Oddone been doing all game?
It feels like he's had absolutely no presence.
EDIT: Haha, ninja'd :p
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I wish I knew what is being said on TSM streams right now.
Edit - and yeah, oddone has been completely nonexistent.
Edit2 - Woah, Chaox got bloodthirster and then died immediately :/
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I wonder why Ad kennen? I thought they had enough AD dmg already...
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TSM looking so poor, getting completely destroyed.
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this is pretty pathetic for a team that lives in a gaming house
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- Udyr a full Wits End up on Lee Sin. Janna up a Kindlegem + stack of wards as Sona forced to buy Oracles.
- MF+Sona pushing bot lane hard with no wards. CLG 5 man punish them. VEIGAR AHAHAHAH BOOM.
- MF has BT+almost Zeal to Ashe's IE+Vamp.
- TSM lost mid tower.
On February 19 2012 09:53 emucxg wrote:
sigh
...Girl look at that body.
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Rainman cant carry this shit.. sigh
trololol
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I thought teamhouse was suppose to make you better?
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- Ashe misses Ult but it makes MF waste Ult too.
- CLG engage on TSM. Sona with a good counter-initiate. TSM kill SaintV and his Oracles but lose MF and Kennen. MF forced to recharge BT.
- Irelia now getting fed. Aegis+Wits+Mallet.
- Ashe now equal or better cs than MF from all these fights.
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OddOne 0/0/0 Lee Sin best choice
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Why would you ever play AD Kennen top. Honestly I think Raiman does bad champ/item choices all the time.
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On February 19 2012 09:55 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:- Ashe misses Ult but it makes MF waste Ult too.
- CLG engage on TSM. Sona with a good counter-initiate. TSM kill SaintV and his Oracles but lose MF and Kennen. MF forced to recharge BT.
For clarification, ashe ult wasn't a complete miss. It hit MF(i think), which prompted MF to waste ult as well as all of CLG were coming through that brush.
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Rainman has led in kills both games for TSM.
Chaox, Regi, and Oddone have looked bad both games.
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Of the two times I've seen RainMan play Kennen (including this one), I've only seen him play AD Kennen.
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On February 19 2012 09:55 Woony wrote:
Why would you ever play AD Kennen top. Honestly I think Raiman does bad champ/item choices all the time.
In a game like this, picks are usually team choices, not individuals. In scrims it'd be different.
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wow, that Mf ulti so strong.. and dat lolzy rainman ulti.
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On February 19 2012 09:57 triangle wrote:
Rainman has led in kills both games for TSM.
Chaox, Regi, and Oddone have looked bad both games.
I'm not entirely sure TRM's choice of AD kennen top is correct. His one kill wasn't really his own, as it was a team fight.
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On February 19 2012 09:57 triangle wrote:
Rainman has led in kills both games for TSM.
Chaox, Regi, and Oddone have looked bad both games.
they prob gonna blame rainman anyways, even though everyone did bad.
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1 to 1 trade, and prevented baron, yeah, CLg's got this in the back.
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- Lee Sin with Hog+Ruby+Wriggles+Mercs. Udyr with Randuin+Mercs+Wits+Ruby+Wards. This isn't even close.
- Ahri with Sorcs, 3xDoran, WotA, Negatron. Veigar with RoA, DFG, Sorcs, Doran, Amp Tome.
- Kennen has Wriggles, 2xDoran, Mercs, Phage. Irelia is Raid Boss.
- Janna has Shurelia over Sona's incomplete items.
- CLG force Baron as HSGG split pushes bot and takes inner tower.
- CLG ARROW pick off Sona Oracles. They get super low eating lots of AoE. But CLG disengage successfully, TSM can't pick off the super low carries.
- HSGG taking bot inhib turret while all this happens...
- TSM zerg Baron. Double facechecks and dies. HSGG TPs in and forces them off.
- 10k gold difference. Ow.
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I have not seen TSM play this way in a long time. Feel like they are on tilt.
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Waht the fuck was doublelift doing? he was in teh front....
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omg, hsgg + sv bullies entire tsm >.>
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i don't think ad kennen is necessarily a bad pick top against a melee bruiser, but frozen mallet after wriggles and 2x dblades? pretty sure his W is what makes AD kennen work and 30+ minutes in rainman has exactly +0% attack speed.
edit: and then the offensive flash ult with 0 ap for the lolz
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- TSM desperate Baron. CLG engage and TSM loses Regi for Veigar and Ashe.
- Despite CLG losing both carries, Irelia and Udyr so Raid Boss Mode TSM forced to run away.
- Sona with Oracles (I think?) picked off again.
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On February 19 2012 10:02 wei2coolman wrote:
Waht the fuck was doublelift doing? he was in teh front....
It was both doublelift and jiji. They had to force an exchange so TSM would not baron. Their tanks were still too far away, but that arrow was way too early.
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I bet Chauster, SV and HSGG have the biggest grin on their face right now.
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- CLG go for Baron. TSM try to stop them. After some dancing, Udyr get split moving top while the rest of CLG moves south.
- TSM engage on them. Kennen FLASH-ULT but does nothing because he's AD and Ashe has QSS.
- Irelia so raid boss. Eats lots of damage. Doesn't die.
- CLG loses no one and kill 4 of TSM. Takes Baron.
- CLG goes heal up. 14k gold up. Steamrolling down mid now.
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On February 19 2012 10:07 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:- TSM engage on them. Kennen FLASH-ULT but does nothing because he's AD and Ashe has QSS.
Hahaha. Very true.
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Rainman drunk, picked wrong rodent, still thinks he's playing teemo lol
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Janna knockup + veigar stun is simply too much cc. lol. clg just lol stomped tsm.
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TSM playing same comp during the last month after kiev, which is straight copy-pasted from empire
inb4 regi start play veigar now and chaox start play ashe now, huehuehue
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jiji blows up Chaox. No more damage for TSM, lol.
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Whole game made no sense, and I really wish Chaox would get off his MF kick.
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gg
CLG is much much better right now, TSM needs to figure thier shit out because they're all over the place right now.
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- Irelia split push bot while rest of CLG is top lane. Ahri forced to sit bot as tower is down and inhib is exposed.
- TSM try to be sneaky and Shurelia engage on CLG from the side. Veigar laughs in their face, throws down AoE Stun and instantly nukes Chaox into Oblivion.
- Kennen with perfect Ult and thanks to 0 AP does jack shit and dies.
- Irelia TPs in so Regi goes to join his team and dies.
- Ace.
- TSM quit the game as CLG zerg the nexus.
VEIGAR LAUGHS AT YOUR CRUSHED BASE AHAHAHAHAHAH~! :3
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On February 19 2012 10:09 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
jiji blows up Chaox. No more damage for TSM, lol.
glad jiji is king again, jiji playing 12 hours a day really paid off
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Usually after stomps, either one team looks really good or the other team looks really bad.
In that case, TSM just looked really bad. Dunno what happened to them that series.
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Man, that was disgusting. Ashe missed every arrow but it didn't matter since TSM had only Chaox doing damage. I guess Ahri was OK for damage as well but the other two people (besides Xpecial) had the following items:
RainMan: Dblade x 2, Frozen Mallet, Wriggle's
TOO: Wriggle's. He had no other damage item.
Chaox kept missing ults too so what do you expect? No way to deal damage, Meanwhile all of CLG either absorbed damage or dealt a shitton of damage.
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OddOne was invisible that entire game
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On February 19 2012 10:10 PartyBiscuit wrote:
Whole game made no sense, and I really wish Chaox would get off his MF kick.
Mf needs harder initiate for her ult to do anything and her sightly better than average if used properly ult is all she has late game. While most of chaox early ults attempts were bad, to be fair he would just get interrupted if he waited longer.
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Well, hopefully EG vs. Dignitas will be closer. I think EG will still win though.
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yo, imagine how mad is regi now lol
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TSM really disappointing this set.
Honestly, I gave TSM a lot of credit before for having a good sense of their roles, especially when they were doing well and TOO was playing Maokai every game.
But it looks like they're doing exactly what I said CLG did too much of before. Pick 4-carry team-comp. Can't get everyone fed (even when they're up 4 Dragons, plus towers), so someone (in this case TheOddOne) is underfarmed and therefore useless.
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On February 19 2012 10:13 GranDim wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2012 10:10 PartyBiscuit wrote:
Whole game made no sense, and I really wish Chaox would get off his MF kick. Mf needs harder initiate for her ult to do anything and her sightly better than average if used properly is all she has late game. While most of chaox early ults attempts were bad, to be fair he would just get interrupted if he waited longer.
Some of Chaox's ults were instrumental in doing damage to CLG. Such as that time CLG faked Baron, and then used Ashe Arrow to turn on Sona with Oracles. They all sat in MF Ult and took lots of damage. TSM just couldn't follow up with any kills. The time they got aced and lost Baron, Chaox ult-ed prematurely and that meant he didn't have any AoE for the following fight.
That said, Chaox was really the only damage they had at that point. Kennen was a CC-bot with no other presence, Lee Sin couldn't really tank much and Ahri couldn't burst someone (although True Damage always relevant).
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Anyone know if either Epik or Dignitas have been practicing for this?
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On February 19 2012 10:16 ketchup wrote:
Anyone know if either Epik or Dignitas have been practicing for this?
I saw a few EG scrims this week, not sure about dig tho.
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AFK a while, someone do picks-bans + LR please tyty :3
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On February 19 2012 10:16 ketchup wrote:
Anyone know if either Epik or Dignitas have been practicing for this?
Eg has been very active lately. Makes a Salce fanboi very happy.
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yesyes, leona!
Praise the sun.
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Bans:
EG: Maokai/Lee Sin/Karthus
Dig: Malphite/Soraka Rammus
Picks:
EG:
Shen/Graves/Sona/Ziggs/Warwick
Dig:
Corki/Shyvana/Leona/Cassiopeia/Udyr
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EG Bans: Maokai, Lee Sin, Karthus
Dig Bans: Malphite, Soraka, Rammus
EG Picks: Shen, Graves, Sona, Warwick, Ziggs
Dig Picks: Corki, Shyvana, Cassio, Leona, Udyr
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Dyrus will be playing AD, Westrice will be playing Shen top, and WW jungle by Dan Dinh.
Not really seen Dyrus AD but I'm sure he'll be OK with two heals, plus Sona.
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Are those item display animations new on Spectator mode? I don't recall buying items had animations.
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Both teams take each others reds, though Shyv and Sona exchange Exhausts before Shyv barely escapes with Epik's.
Big teamfight at second red; Dig wins 3-0 with healbait on dragon bitch and takes out Epik's bot lane and jungle; gets free dragon after.
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After 8 minutes of nothing happening, Dignitas 3-man-invade EPIK's red buff. WW sees them in time and backs off, decides to go in back again because Graves and Sona are about to arrive. Unfortunately for EG, Cassiopeia is already there and Dignitas pick up 3 kills and a red buff.
12 minutes in, Shyvanna helps Leona and Corki dive Graves and Sona bottom, resulting in two kills for Dignitas. Graves loses 2 waves of experience and farm.
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Oh, and EG's bot lane is combined 0-4, even though they both are carrying heal.
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I honestly think they reason EG is so inconsistent is that their roles are always changing......I mean they have Dyrus on AD carry this game. How much practice can he possibly have on AD? Not to mention the chemistry between him and his support.
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Graves dies bottom, casters miss it. Shyvana and Cass steal blue buff uncontested, which puts Salce's Ziggs in an awkward position against Cass. Voyboydyr dies top to a gank from WW, Dignitas picks up dragon.
A 5 man gank from EG gets two kills and the bottom turret, they lose mid and top turrets in the process.
Meanwhile, I realize it's 3am and head towards my bed. Turns out GF sat in the brush all night waiting for me to come by, I get instagibbed. GG.
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wat flash ww ult on cass with qss
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On February 19 2012 10:57 Tezzick wrote:
That was depressing...
very. EG really needs to sort their line-up and dedicate. Dyrus on Graves with no flash is kinda dumb.
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On February 19 2012 10:58 fuzzbox wrote:very. EG really needs to sort their line-up and dedicate. Dyrus on Graves with no flash is kinda dumb.
GRRRR everytime someone types EG i keep thinking evil geniuses not epik gamers. lol.
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On February 19 2012 11:07 triangle wrote:
EVE WHAT LOL
Eve is just the standard pick for not having a certain champion. They wanted Irelia
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Digi Picks: Corki, Nunununu, CassiOPeia, Meowkai,Irelialia
Epik Gamer Picks: Sivir, Taric, Warwick, Akari~n!, Oriana
Missed bans
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U GUYS READY FOR SOME MAYO KAI?
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On February 19 2012 11:20 Two_DoWn wrote:
U GUYS READY FOR SOME MAYO KAI?
Nyaaaah~ri > Meowkai
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Lol, what a horrible engage by dan dinh
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On February 19 2012 11:17 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:Digi Picks: Corki, Nunununu, CassiOPeia, Meowkai,Irelialia Epik Gamer Picks: Sivir, Taric, Warwick, Akari~n!, Oriana Missed bans
Bans
Epik - Shyvana, Lee Sin, Shen
Dignitas - Malphite, Soraka, Rammus
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Dan dihn throwing the game and ulting the meowkai then dieing instantly
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How to throw a game by Dan Dinh.
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Salce is hitting such beautiful Ori ults but he can't carry EG alone.
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On February 19 2012 11:48 Seiuchi wrote:Salce is hitting such beautiful Ori ults but he can't carry EG alone.
Yeah I feel bad because Salce Ori play is so sexy. That ult was fantastic
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meh I don't get why everyone is hating on rainman's kennen.
The only reason TSM lost was because no one else on the team did anything.
edit: haha i should refresh before posting..didn't realize EG vs Dig was happening
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Wow, that was... decisive.
EDIT: Is CLG vs Dignitas right now?
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On February 19 2012 11:37 Seiuchi wrote:
How to throw a game by Dan Dinh.
I think that's being overly unfair to Dan. I'd say other than derping out once, he played better than most of his teammates.
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On February 19 2012 11:57 iCanada wrote:
Wow, that was... decisive.
Ya DD really needs to improve as a jungle. You really cant afford to do weird shit as a jungler just cuz their isnt enough gold to skimp on actual effective items.
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On February 19 2012 11:58 TheYango wrote:I think that's being overly unfair to Dan. I'd say other than derping out once, he played better than most of his teammates.
Letting your team get aced (again) and losing baron right after you finally equalize is pretty big in the scale of derps.
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On February 19 2012 11:58 Two_DoWn wrote:Ya DD really needs to improve as a jungle. You really cant afford to do weird shit as a jungler just cuz their isnt enough gold to skimp on actual effective items.
Hey now, Wriggle's Stark's Aegis isn't "weird shit" to Dan--that's been his go-to Warwick build for like 2 years now lol.
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On February 19 2012 11:58 TheYango wrote:I think that's being overly unfair to Dan. I'd say other than derping out once, he played better than most of his teammates.
Westrice's top was pretty bad, but Dan took an even game that was slightly tilting towards Epik and handed Dig and ace + Baron. Pretty much dropped the game.
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On February 19 2012 11:59 PartyBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2012 11:58 TheYango wrote:On February 19 2012 11:37 Seiuchi wrote:
How to throw a game by Dan Dinh. I think that's being overly unfair to Dan. I'd say other than derping out once, he played better than most of his teammates. Letting your team get aced (again) and losing baron right after you finally equalize is pretty big in the scale of derps.
He took a gamble on how far the enemy team was from the Dragon (they had no vision in the enemy jungle, and it was still possible that some of Dignitas' team was on their way to lanes rather than coming straight to Dragon).
You might disagree whether that gamble was necessary (and I'll concede that Dan tends to feel such risks are necessary sooner than they actually are), but given how far behind they were (2 towers, a ton of kills, all 3 carries comparatively underfarmed), he might have felt it was necessary to take that gamble to give them a shot at winning the game.
On February 19 2012 12:01 Seiuchi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2012 11:58 TheYango wrote:On February 19 2012 11:37 Seiuchi wrote:
How to throw a game by Dan Dinh. I think that's being overly unfair to Dan. I'd say other than derping out once, he played better than most of his teammates. Westrice's top was pretty bad, but Dan took an even game that was slightly tilting towards Epik and handed Dig and ace + Baron. Pretty much dropped the game.
Oh come on, that game wasn't even close to even before the Baron. EG had one good teamfight, but being down 2 towers and several kills and being disadvantaged in all 3 lanes is not "even". The global gold gap was already 5k+ and growing.
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On February 19 2012 12:04 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2012 11:59 PartyBiscuit wrote:On February 19 2012 11:58 TheYango wrote:On February 19 2012 11:37 Seiuchi wrote:
How to throw a game by Dan Dinh. I think that's being overly unfair to Dan. I'd say other than derping out once, he played better than most of his teammates. Letting your team get aced (again) and losing baron right after you finally equalize is pretty big in the scale of derps. He took a gamble on how far the enemy team was from the Dragon (they had no vision in the enemy jungle, and it was still possible that some of Dignitas' team was on their way to lanes rather than coming straight to Dragon). You might disagree whether that gamble was necessary (and I'll concede that Dan tends to feel such risks are necessary sooner than they actually are), but given how far behind they were (2 towers, a ton of kills, all 3 carries comparatively underfarmed), he might have felt it was necessary to take that gamble to give them a shot at winning the game. Show nested quote +On February 19 2012 12:01 Seiuchi wrote:On February 19 2012 11:58 TheYango wrote:On February 19 2012 11:37 Seiuchi wrote:
How to throw a game by Dan Dinh. I think that's being overly unfair to Dan. I'd say other than derping out once, he played better than most of his teammates. Westrice's top was pretty bad, but Dan took an even game that was slightly tilting towards Epik and handed Dig and ace + Baron. Pretty much dropped the game. Oh come on, that game wasn't even close to even before the Baron. EG had one good teamfight, but being down 2 towers and several kills and being disadvantaged in all 3 lanes is not "even".
Maybe Observer mode makes things look a bit more clinical than playing the game itself so you can see that the global gold difference isn't that bad, because that certainly is an argument, but blind ulting a Maokai when your team's in bad shape and you don't see the rest of his team is a reckless gamble at best and just fucking stupid at worst.
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Maybe it is because I am used to watching SC tournaments, but most LoL tournaments seem so unprofessional.
It feels like they didn't prep at all and just said "screw it, we have a tournament."
Would it really be that hard for curse to get an overlay that isn't notepad, or not have everyone watching them herpderp about getting in game for an hour between every game?
-.-
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On February 19 2012 12:09 Seiuchi wrote:
Maybe Observer mode makes things look a bit more clinical than playing the game itself so you can see that the global gold difference isn't that bad, because that certainly is an argument, but blind ulting a Maokai when your team's in bad shape and you don't see the rest of his team is a reckless gamble at best and just fucking stupid at worst.
When you're in bad shape is EXACTLY when you take a gamble to try and put yourself back in the game. It's why in SC mid-level pros cheese players that are significantly better than them, or why you go for an all-in when you're on the back foot.
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On February 19 2012 12:00 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2012 11:58 Two_DoWn wrote:On February 19 2012 11:57 iCanada wrote:
Wow, that was... decisive. Ya DD really needs to improve as a jungle. You really cant afford to do weird shit as a jungler just cuz their isnt enough gold to skimp on actual effective items. Hey now, Wriggle's Stark's Aegis isn't "weird shit" to Dan--that's been his go-to Warwick build for like 2 years now lol.
Doesn't make it good.
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It's easy for us to judge his error when we have vision of both sides, and in hindsight the gamble looks stupid, but how can you say that gamble wasn't necessary? Again, all 3 lanes were losing, they had zero map control, and were down 2 towers.
If Voyboy had gone to top instead of coming to Dragon that Dignitas obviously wouldn't get to in time and it turned into a 4-for-1 trade, everyone would be saying that play turned the game around entirely.
On February 19 2012 12:13 Two_DoWn wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2012 12:00 TheYango wrote:On February 19 2012 11:58 Two_DoWn wrote:On February 19 2012 11:57 iCanada wrote:
Wow, that was... decisive. Ya DD really needs to improve as a jungle. You really cant afford to do weird shit as a jungler just cuz their isnt enough gold to skimp on actual effective items. Hey now, Wriggle's Stark's Aegis isn't "weird shit" to Dan--that's been his go-to Warwick build for like 2 years now lol. Doesn't make it good.
I was being facetious. Sorry that wasn't clear.
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On February 19 2012 12:14 TheYango wrote:It's easy for us to judge his error when we have vision of both sides, and in hindsight the gamble looks stupid, but how can you say that gamble wasn't necessary? If Voyboy had gone to top instead of coming to Dragon that they obviously wouldn't get to in time and it turned into a 4-for-1 trade, everyone would be saying that play turned the game around entirely. Show nested quote +On February 19 2012 12:13 Two_DoWn wrote:On February 19 2012 12:00 TheYango wrote:On February 19 2012 11:58 Two_DoWn wrote:On February 19 2012 11:57 iCanada wrote:
Wow, that was... decisive. Ya DD really needs to improve as a jungle. You really cant afford to do weird shit as a jungler just cuz their isnt enough gold to skimp on actual effective items. Hey now, Wriggle's Stark's Aegis isn't "weird shit" to Dan--that's been his go-to Warwick build for like 2 years now lol. Doesn't make it good. I was being facetious. Sorry that wasn't clear.
It didn't look good when it was happening either. Like if that was your WW in a game, and you were blind of the global vision and saw him pulling that move off, would you think that was a good play as it was happening?
I see where you're saying that it's a coin flip move because Voyboy COULD HAVE gone top, but when you just finished dragon after a contested fight and they've all came up around the same time, is it a smart risk to try to pick Maokai? You don't think it's really likely they could have came as 5 and tried to come to see if Dragon was still there/pick a team coming out of the pit?
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On February 19 2012 12:04 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2012 11:59 PartyBiscuit wrote:On February 19 2012 11:58 TheYango wrote:On February 19 2012 11:37 Seiuchi wrote:
How to throw a game by Dan Dinh. I think that's being overly unfair to Dan. I'd say other than derping out once, he played better than most of his teammates. Letting your team get aced (again) and losing baron right after you finally equalize is pretty big in the scale of derps. He took a gamble on how far the enemy team was from the Dragon (they had no vision in the enemy jungle, and it was still possible that some of Dignitas' team was on their way to lanes rather than coming straight to Dragon). You might disagree whether that gamble was necessary (and I'll concede that Dan tends to feel such risks are necessary sooner than they actually are), but given how far behind they were (2 towers, a ton of kills, all 3 carries comparatively underfarmed), he might have felt it was necessary to take that gamble to give them a shot at winning the game. Show nested quote +On February 19 2012 12:01 Seiuchi wrote:On February 19 2012 11:58 TheYango wrote:On February 19 2012 11:37 Seiuchi wrote:
How to throw a game by Dan Dinh. I think that's being overly unfair to Dan. I'd say other than derping out once, he played better than most of his teammates. Westrice's top was pretty bad, but Dan took an even game that was slightly tilting towards Epik and handed Dig and ace + Baron. Pretty much dropped the game. Oh come on, that game wasn't even close to even before the Baron. EG had one good teamfight, but being down 2 towers and several kills and being disadvantaged in all 3 lanes is not "even". The global gold gap was already 5k+ and growing.
I agree with you to some extent, but one of us is misremembering (or we're referring to different situations) because I recall that, when dan ulted, EG was behind < 1k gold.
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On February 19 2012 12:30 Nehsb wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2012 12:04 TheYango wrote:On February 19 2012 11:59 PartyBiscuit wrote:On February 19 2012 11:58 TheYango wrote:On February 19 2012 11:37 Seiuchi wrote:
How to throw a game by Dan Dinh. I think that's being overly unfair to Dan. I'd say other than derping out once, he played better than most of his teammates. Letting your team get aced (again) and losing baron right after you finally equalize is pretty big in the scale of derps. He took a gamble on how far the enemy team was from the Dragon (they had no vision in the enemy jungle, and it was still possible that some of Dignitas' team was on their way to lanes rather than coming straight to Dragon). You might disagree whether that gamble was necessary (and I'll concede that Dan tends to feel such risks are necessary sooner than they actually are), but given how far behind they were (2 towers, a ton of kills, all 3 carries comparatively underfarmed), he might have felt it was necessary to take that gamble to give them a shot at winning the game. On February 19 2012 12:01 Seiuchi wrote:On February 19 2012 11:58 TheYango wrote:On February 19 2012 11:37 Seiuchi wrote:
How to throw a game by Dan Dinh. I think that's being overly unfair to Dan. I'd say other than derping out once, he played better than most of his teammates. Westrice's top was pretty bad, but Dan took an even game that was slightly tilting towards Epik and handed Dig and ace + Baron. Pretty much dropped the game. Oh come on, that game wasn't even close to even before the Baron. EG had one good teamfight, but being down 2 towers and several kills and being disadvantaged in all 3 lanes is not "even". The global gold gap was already 5k+ and growing. I agree with you to some extent, but one of us is misremembering (or we're referring to different situations) because I recall that, when dan ulted, EG was behind < 1k gold.
That's what I thought too, but I was giving him the 5k for the sake of argument. : /
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On February 19 2012 12:30 Nehsb wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2012 12:04 TheYango wrote:On February 19 2012 11:59 PartyBiscuit wrote:On February 19 2012 11:58 TheYango wrote:On February 19 2012 11:37 Seiuchi wrote:
How to throw a game by Dan Dinh. I think that's being overly unfair to Dan. I'd say other than derping out once, he played better than most of his teammates. Letting your team get aced (again) and losing baron right after you finally equalize is pretty big in the scale of derps. He took a gamble on how far the enemy team was from the Dragon (they had no vision in the enemy jungle, and it was still possible that some of Dignitas' team was on their way to lanes rather than coming straight to Dragon). You might disagree whether that gamble was necessary (and I'll concede that Dan tends to feel such risks are necessary sooner than they actually are), but given how far behind they were (2 towers, a ton of kills, all 3 carries comparatively underfarmed), he might have felt it was necessary to take that gamble to give them a shot at winning the game. On February 19 2012 12:01 Seiuchi wrote:On February 19 2012 11:58 TheYango wrote:On February 19 2012 11:37 Seiuchi wrote:
How to throw a game by Dan Dinh. I think that's being overly unfair to Dan. I'd say other than derping out once, he played better than most of his teammates. Westrice's top was pretty bad, but Dan took an even game that was slightly tilting towards Epik and handed Dig and ace + Baron. Pretty much dropped the game. Oh come on, that game wasn't even close to even before the Baron. EG had one good teamfight, but being down 2 towers and several kills and being disadvantaged in all 3 lanes is not "even". The global gold gap was already 5k+ and growing. I agree with you to some extent, but one of us is misremembering (or we're referring to different situations) because I recall that, when dan ulted, EG was behind < 1k gold.
Checked the VOD. You're right.
In which case, yeah, that was definitely a pointless gamble to make.
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are they on a break? When is finals starting?
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is clg and dig going to be played tonight?
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Yes, it's scheduled in 10mins
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Game 1
Bans
CLG - Maokai, Cassiopeia, Shyvana
Dignitas - Rammus, Shen, Galio
Picks
CLG - Ryze, Udyr, Janna, Gangplank, Vayne
Dignitas - Corki, Lee Sin, Karthus, Nunu, Malphite
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I feel that letting CLG pick up both Ryze and Vayne for jiji and Doublelift respectively is going to be a very bad decision.
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Dominate with the pro lee sin skill shots under the turret, turns a 100% kill on hotshot into a double kill for clg
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On February 19 2012 13:21 FR4CT4L wrote:
Dominate with the pro lee sin skill shots under the turret, turns a 100% kill on hotshot into a double kill for clg
And that double kill leads to fast wriggles for gangplank, which leads to fast dragon.
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TIL that Elementz has no idea what the term "backdoor" means.
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They're missing plays and comments on important things. Like Karthus ulting in middle but not staying to see Janna interrupt Karthus ult or noticing the ult didn't go off to kill HSGG bottom.
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Dem split pushes. 7 turrets to 1.
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On February 19 2012 13:39 BlackMagister wrote:
They're missing plays and comments on important things. Like Karthus ulting in middle but not staying to see Janna interrupt Karthus ult or noticing the ult didn't go off to kill HSGG bottom.
Also, on this push, CLG wards up in Dignitas' base so Hotshot can teleport in and they described this as random warding.
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Honestly, I think it might be a toss up between Ele and Dlift as to who is dumber. I guess it was an upgrade for clg after all. Dlift might be semi-brain dead but at least he can play. Ele is just brain dead.
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Drinking game: Shot every time he says "guides" when talking about Lolpro.
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CLG's play is so clean.
Team comps so well thought out and executed flawelssly.
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That Janna running around basewall to ult Karthus out of his ulti. Man, CLG had already won, but that was a baller move from Chauster.
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On February 19 2012 13:47 Two_DoWn wrote:
Honestly, I think it might be a toss up between Ele and Dlift as to who is dumber. I guess it was an upgrade for clg after all. Dlift might be semi-brain dead but at least he can play. Ele is just brain dead.
Doublelift is smart enough to listen to Chauster and improve at things like kiting even if he doesn't listen to KingVicious #1 commandment of never speak to Tom again.
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CLG just going press r to win. Strongest comp in da game. And the easiest.
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CLG Picks/Bans are too strong.
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CLG 2 steps ahead.
Dig ban Janna?
npnp we go full press R to win team.
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On February 19 2012 13:51 Zdrastochye wrote:
Drinking game: Shot every time he says "guides" when talking about Lolpro.
That's not a game, that's just a method of suicide :X
edit: oh man aoe comp looking so strong from CLG.. really want to see a game 3 though
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AoE team comps so easy. Coordinate well and you can overcome gold deficits by pressing R at the right time.
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On February 19 2012 13:57 Seiuchi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2012 13:47 Two_DoWn wrote:
Honestly, I think it might be a toss up between Ele and Dlift as to who is dumber. I guess it was an upgrade for clg after all. Dlift might be semi-brain dead but at least he can play. Ele is just brain dead. Doublelift is smart enough to listen to Chauster and improve at things like kiting even if he doesn't listen to KingVicious #1 commandment of never speak to Tom again.
Eh, doublelift micro was never his problem. His problem is he has no game sense and doesn't listen to saint 100%. Which gives him full derp status at times. :/
He's an improvement from elementz, but it's a shame to see Chauster, one of the best solo laners, needing to support.
I think CLG's improvement though was more that jiji no longer is in a slump like he was back when they benched Elementz, and hotshot listening more. Ever since his grandparents watched his stream and he got with Becca he's stopped being so ragey and childish and has actually improved his team play overall, which is awesome to see from such a good mechanic top laner.
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Nice last switch with HS and jiji.
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I think it's pretty impressive that CLG does so well without Chauster in solo lane though. Imagine if they had a guaranteed "this guy will do well in lane every single game." Shit would be scary as hell.
But yeah, it's cool to see Hotshot and jiji playing a lot better. Doublelift makes a lot less mistakes in the past three weeks or so which is also really exciting for me. I just hope jiji can go back to being a god again, that would make me the happiest person ever.
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jiji and Hotshot playing better is clearly cause gaming apartment building with girlfriends more op than gaming house.
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And the trend of colby and elementz being wrong about who wins continues
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This game is over unless dignitas goes full retard. 2/3 lanes losing and the one where hotshot is beating ryze in cs doesn't matter because ryze is randomly strong enough to 1 vs 2 gp and kennen, wtf?
lol typed that before that dragon fight... ouch.
EDIT: I was also noticing how little vision the teams have, isn't that strange? really low ward level throughout this game.
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Very good job on dignitas' part stringing CLG out and making them use their ults piecemeal instead of all at once.
Dignitas played that perfectly although Saint should have ulted during the chase.
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God Ryze just wreaks shit all day long. Has he even lost today? Ever?
And Qtpie's corki real annoying.
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On February 19 2012 14:44 Two_DoWn wrote:
God Ryze just wreaks shit all day long. Has he even lost today? Ever?
And Qtpie's corki real annoying.
I don't think he has :X The Pro's really know how to abuse him.. so many people have this misconception that ryze is super strong in the early game when he really isn't. If you can just CS fairly well and make it to the mid game without dying, Ryze is a god. (see scarra 1v2ing kennen and gp with just cata/tear)
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Hoping CLG pulls this one out. I hope they have better picks and don't lose their buffs so much this game.
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On February 19 2012 14:38 UniversalSnip wrote:
This game is over unless dignitas goes full retard. 2/3 lanes losing and the one where hotshot is beating ryze in cs doesn't matter because ryze is randomly strong enough to 1 vs 2 gp and kennen, wtf?
lol typed that before that dragon fight... ouch.
EDIT: I was also noticing how little vision the teams have, isn't that strange? really low ward level throughout this game.
NEVER EVER LET SCARRA HAVE RYZE!
Ryze is a ridiculously strong champ and Scarra is really comfortable with him.
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Prediction: clg going to send double + chauster top while cho 1v2s
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On February 19 2012 14:52 OreoBoi wrote:
Prediction: clg going to send double + chauster top while cho 1v2s
And if it goes badly Double will complain about it for a week.
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On February 19 2012 14:52 OreoBoi wrote:
Prediction: clg going to send double + chauster top while cho 1v2s
winner winner!
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Lol, CLG just throwing tournament away. Dignitas looks really strong too, don't wanna take anything away from them but CLG playing really dumb these last two games.
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Saintvicious walking into the middle of the entire dig team as they go for drag, gets killed for free. Suprisingly poor play from him :\
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scarra with the clutch karthus ult!
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Wow dominate goes in with the shyv ult and smite steal baron LOL
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LOL>. ULTIMATE SAINT THROW.
How did they not see that coming?!
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talk about fuck up from hsgg.
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Hotshot GG. REAL. Fallin asleep at the keyboard.
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#1 HSGG doesn't calculate the chogath feast animation time and got it stolen
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Rofl.......how do you lose baron when you have fucking Cho'Gath?
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That wasn't saint's fault. GG how do you f up a 1k true damage nuke against a creep?
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#1 Series throw by CLG. How do you get baron stolen when you have smite and feast?
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On February 19 2012 15:26 Bwaaaa wrote:
That wasn't saint's fault. GG how do you f up a 1k true damage nuke against a creep?
yeah i guess so
sigghhhhhhhhhh
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HSGG is on the verge of going beast mode soon. This is gunna be dangerouse for CLG.
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And WTF are they talking about 1 little mistake. CLG has been throwing this entire game since the first fail lane swap. HS derping baron was the icing on the cake.
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Yeah that 8k gold diff just showed in that teamfight.
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Scumbag CLG: Picks a team comp that is meant to secure baron. Gets it stolen.
New meme for CLG fans. lol
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"EZREAL SUCH A SHITTY CHAMPION"- Everyone on tl.
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Man, CLG played so solid against TSM earlier, and now they're getting wrecked. What happened in between, haha?
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And Chauster demonstrates why Taric isn't a viable lategame choice - when multiple people are threats, he's got jack shit.
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On February 19 2012 15:32 BlackPaladin wrote:
Scumbag CLG: Picks a team comp that is meant to secure baron. Gets it stolen.
New meme for CLG fans. lol
Dignitas is also playing really well. But yeah, combine Dig playing well with CLG playing shitty and it's getting pretty ridiculous. Gonna be almost impossible for CLG to win now after they have an almost perfect team fight but still lose 4 for 2.
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On February 19 2012 15:30 Two_DoWn wrote:
And WTF are they talking about 1 little mistake. CLG has been throwing this entire game since the first fail lane swap. HS derping baron was the icing on the cake.
I feel the game was in a reasonable spot to be won by clg. Then the baron steal sent it into freefall and lost them everything. Like everything else was so minor in comparison.
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On February 19 2012 15:33 FR4CT4L wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2012 15:30 Two_DoWn wrote:
And WTF are they talking about 1 little mistake. CLG has been throwing this entire game since the first fail lane swap. HS derping baron was the icing on the cake. I feel the game was in a reasonable spot to be won by clg. Then the baron steal sent it into freefall and lost them everything. Like everything else was so minor in comparison.
Not really. CLG failing so hard early on made that situation what it was. They had to claw their way back into the game just to GET to that point. Imagine if they had just been normal from the start- they probably would have been even/leading dig instead of a perpetual 2k gold back. It was the nail, but you cant put the WHOLE game on that. HS just going top overall would have made a much bigger difference to this game that Cho not being asleep at baron.
And Ez isnt completely worthless. He just a not as good version of corki- something even Qtpie would agree with given the fact he picks corki over ez every single game.
It would have been a much different story if CLG wasnt down 8k in that blue fight- Any ad carry is gonna look that good.
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Dignitas doing their part to throw this game.
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On February 19 2012 15:40 Two_DoWn wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2012 15:33 FR4CT4L wrote:On February 19 2012 15:30 Two_DoWn wrote:
And WTF are they talking about 1 little mistake. CLG has been throwing this entire game since the first fail lane swap. HS derping baron was the icing on the cake. I feel the game was in a reasonable spot to be won by clg. Then the baron steal sent it into freefall and lost them everything. Like everything else was so minor in comparison. It would have been a much different story if CLG wasnt down 8k in that blue fight- Any ad carry is gonna look that good.
I think Hotshot tried to feast Ez that fight too but mis-clicked and feasted Janna. At least, I hope that's what happened because Noc jumped on Ez but they insta-gibbed Janna. Would be really silly to blow two ults on the enemy teams support at the start of a team fight.
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That game was so much closer than I though it would be
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Qtpie Locust bot lane making a serious case for best in NA. Id actually lean on them over Chaox/xpecial just cuz Chaox' perpetual boner for MF and the shitty EU 3 dorans wriggles build has made that lane horrid for TSM recently.
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Qtpie played really well, really nice positioning and lane phase. But best thing was his way of saying gg at the end of game 3 =)
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That has to be the only thing I don't trust SV with. Aside from Smite he is the best jungler in the world, but I have seen him miss that Smite so many times.
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you can talk about how SV and HSGG messed up all you want; but turning into a dragon, flying over a wall, and smiting baron in mid-air is one of the most baller moves in the game.
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On February 19 2012 16:48 chalice wrote:
you can talk about how SV and HSGG messed up all you want; but turning into a dragon, flying over a wall, and smiting baron in mid-air is one of the most baller moves in the game.
Eh, I dunno... It is baller, but imo I don't think it was that great because at the end of the day it was a high risk play that realistically will only work if your opponent fucks up.
And actually, the funniest part is I recall CLG scrimming this exact same teamcomp like a week ago and they had baron stolen via Ziggs Ult because SV and HSGG screwed up the maths on Smite+Feast.
Herp derp, many monies lost for something that is just silly.
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i guess you wouldn't understand if you haven't done it yourself, but there is something special about the shyvana baron steal. the feeling you get as you fluidly smite baron soaring gracefully through the air to single-handedly turn a game around is unmatched imo.
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Of the semis/finals, which are the best (well, most entertaining) games to watch? How did nü-Shen fare in tourney play?
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On February 19 2012 18:41 chalice wrote:
i guess you wouldn't understand if you haven't done it yourself, but there is something special about the shyvana baron steal. the feeling you get as you fluidly smite baron soaring gracefully through the air to single-handedly turn a game around is unmatched imo.
Pft, noct steals are where its at. Halfway across the map and still ruining your day!
I want to point something out, smite vs smite, neither jungle has an advantage. Both smites do the exact same amount. Sure, the team doing baron has more damage coming in (and therefore if there is a missed smite they usually get it) and in this case Cho should have gotten it, but smite vs smite either jungle can come out on top.
Also, the same thing happened to CLG in a scrim the other day. They smite/feast at 1700 and hotshot mis timed feast that time, missed this game so I'm not sure if that's the case here.
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Vancouver14381 Posts
Finals starts in ~90 min and are being casted by Colbycheeze and a Curse manager.
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Bans/Picks happening right now.
Game 1
Bans
Curse - Cassiopeia, Shyvana, Maokai
Dignitas (blue) - Kog'Maw, Rammus, Nocturne
Picks
Curse - Lee Sin, Kennen, Soraka, Miss Fortune, Anivia
Dignitas - Ryze, Corki, Alistar, Dr. Mundo, Irelia
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Dig Bans: Kog'Maw/Rammus/Noct
Crs Bans: Cass/Shyv/Maokai
Dig Picks: Ryze/Corki/Alistar/Mundo/Irelia
Crs Picks: Lee Sin/Kennen/Soraka/MF/Anivia
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eyyy awesome timing, just after aAa clg.eu finished
gogo scarra!
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Gank on top completely missed
AND THERE WAS EVEN A PING zzzz
Ryze has an early blue thanks to Mundo giving blue to who he pleases. Apparently the top gank forced a back outta Irelia.
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What's the over all game score? first game?
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On February 26 2012 04:57 wei2coolman wrote:
What's the over all game score? first game?
First game still going on. Dig ahead by 10k and looking dominant in teamfights, not complaetely lost for curse though.
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I dunno how they let Scarra get Ryze... did they learn nothing from watching CLG v Dig in the semis?
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this stream doesn't want to cooperate at all
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Stream is working fine for me at 360 resolution. CRS losing their lead and letting Dignitas get back in the game.
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WTF
Why didn't crs just turn around and fight after inhib? Did they seriously think they could nexus? I'm so confused.
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And Dignitas finally takes it. Was a long as hell game, didn't catch the end though.
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Nah, Curse was just playing like they are ahead while they actually quite behind for the last 20 mins. I mean veigar is too squishy to be relied on. He can instancely kill one people on Dig, so what? Corky or Irealia or Morgana will just bust them down, and Mundo do massive damage in late game too.
On the other hand, Maokai is not that good late game since hes AP based tank, in late game AD based tank is much more useful, just look at Irelia.
That nexus steal was a good move but you can actually do that with only one AD.
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