EPT[IEM] Guangzhou Discussion - Page 89
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ArC_man
United States2798 Posts
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toastymow
United States254 Posts
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Tal
United Kingdom1018 Posts
Another really fun game. It's been a good day. | ||
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d(O.o)a
Canada5066 Posts
On October 04 2011 15:46 toastymow wrote: I'm not talking about low ELO, I never saw him do well at low elo. It was people like Jji that did well with him FYI Elementz says that TF is still strong. I can totally see CLG counterpicking TF against these guys, just to mess with them. AP TF doesn't work well anymore at high elo either because as was mentioned he requires so much co-ordination now, you can't just sit in lane and gank as soon as the opportunity arises now, you have to be planning it ahead of time, and you can no longer backdoor with impunity because of the range on ulti no longer allowing you to get into the teamfight instantly. | ||
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On October 04 2011 15:48 Sandster wrote: Agree on all points. jiji/regi will just play cass/ori/grag to get the same poke power as tf. This is exactly why it was a good idea for CLG to throw away their game against WE - so they now know exactly what's coming and have a strategy to counter it. It's already been confirmed that CLG did NOT throw their game against WE. Stop with the misinformation. | ||
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chocolatebunny
301 Posts
On October 04 2011 15:49 overt wrote: With AP TF you trade burst and sustain damage for really good poke and He can't burst people down as quickly as other APs. He can't 1v1 very well. He doesn't do sustain like Vlad or Cass. He's not terrible or anything but there are just better APs to pick and I don't think these games will see a resurgence of him. If anything these games will be a reminder of why you don't over-extend in lane. yeah. the team WE had really punished overextending with noc. and tf and galio tele though i must say. i've been really impressed with the asian team's tele ganks. early on. though i think they waste the teles later on in the game though :\ | ||
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Sandster
United States4054 Posts
On October 04 2011 15:50 Ryuu314 wrote: It's already been confirmed that CLG did NOT throw their game against WE. Stop with the misinformation. My bad - either way, it was very fortunate then. | ||
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overt
United States9006 Posts
On October 04 2011 15:50 chocolatebunny wrote: yeah. the team WE had really punished overextending with noc. and tf and galio tele though i must say. i've been really impressed with the asian team's tele ganks. early on. though i think they waste the teles later on in the game though :\ Their ganks are really fucking strong and scary. All the foreign teams have to do is not play retarded in lane though and they'll be ok. | ||
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toastymow
United States254 Posts
On October 04 2011 15:49 d(O.o)a wrote: AP TF doesn't work well anymore at high elo either because as was mentioned he requires so much co-ordination now, you can't just sit in lane and gank as soon as the opportunity arises now, you have to be planning it ahead of time, and you can no longer backdoor with impunity because of the range on ulti no longer allowing you to get into the teamfight instantly. I'm not saying that AP TF isn't the OP bullshit he was. I'm saying he's viable on a poke comp. He's viable on a team with multiple TPs. I'm saying that Jiji is the best TF player in the world and if they get the chance, I can see him picking TF. Though, to be honest, it seems to me that these days its Chauster and Hotshot that are carrying CLG, Jiji is just doing his job and being a solid AP player. edit: Also, I'm 100% certain that Chauster is gonna play Urgot/Caitlyn this entire tourenment. Counter ganks with absurd early game. What do? | ||
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chocolatebunny
301 Posts
On October 04 2011 15:51 overt wrote: Their ganks are really fucking strong and scary. All the foreign teams have to do is not play retarded in lane though and they'll be ok. yeah. the foreign dont' really tele gank that often. they usually reserve it for dragon or baron. Edit: I hate this we will be right back thing >.< | ||
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SHr3DD3r
Pakistan2137 Posts
On October 04 2011 15:49 d(O.o)a wrote: AP TF doesn't work well anymore at high elo either because as was mentioned he requires so much co-ordination now, you can't just sit in lane and gank as soon as the opportunity arises now, you have to be planning it ahead of time, and you can no longer backdoor with impunity because of the range on ulti no longer allowing you to get into the teamfight instantly. Being good in solo Q and being good in competitive play are two totally different things all together. Like ashe is a shit pick in solo Q majority if not all the time, but is still a great pick in team games. TF still works in competitive play as well. EDIT - im kinda sleepy so not sure if this is what you were talking about. If you were JUST talking about solo Q then nvm | ||
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d(O.o)a
Canada5066 Posts
On October 04 2011 15:54 SHr3DD3r wrote: Being good in solo Q and being good in competitive play are two totally different things all together. Like ashe is a shit pick in solo Q majority if not all the time, but is still a great pick in team games. TF still works in competitive play as well. EDIT - im kinda sleepy so not sure if this is what you were talking about. If you were JUST talking about solo Q then nvm I was. | ||
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Irave
United States9965 Posts
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DanielZKlein
United States1171 Posts
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toastymow
United States254 Posts
On October 04 2011 16:02 DanielZKlein wrote: Alright, soon as CLG are ready we're going live with picks and bans. What's everyone's prediction for this? CLG wins 2-1 | ||
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Irave
United States9965 Posts
On October 04 2011 16:02 DanielZKlein wrote: Alright, soon as CLG are ready we're going live with picks and bans. What's everyone's prediction for this? CLG wins 2-0. | ||
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Lunko
Slovenia72 Posts
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d(O.o)a
Canada5066 Posts
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I_Love_Bacon
United States5765 Posts
lol edit: I just realized picking 2-0 or 2-1 in a best of 3 sounds pretty stupid since I just picked half of the options. I'd lean on 2-0 being the most likely. | ||
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Gantzie
Australia245 Posts
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