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sprddeath
Portugal50 Posts
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1oo
Portugal876 Posts
On October 04 2011 15:39 Ryuu314 wrote: Nocturne ult makes me sad Not seeing the first 2-ish seconds of every teamfight is :[ imagine playing against it.. its so frustating. | ||
chocolatebunny
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d(O.o)a
Canada5066 Posts
On October 04 2011 15:41 toastymow wrote: Because FOTM declares that the second a hero is slightly nerfed you must instantly go find another hero. Really, people are idiots. And WE is proving that 100% K go play AP TF and dominate games. It's not as easy as it looks here. | ||
Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On October 04 2011 15:41 1oo wrote: imagine playing against it.. its so frustating. Yea, noc ult is pretty darn gamechanging. That morg teleport onto baron would've been amazing against any other non-nocturne teamcomp 'cause then ehome would know to instantly engage. Noc ult basically makes ehome hesitate and unsure about where/when/how to initiate thus wasting that morg teleport/ult. | ||
dnastyx
United States2707 Posts
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chocolatebunny
301 Posts
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On October 04 2011 15:43 dnastyx wrote: AP TF works here because their poke is so strong. and also 'cuase WE is so damn coordinated. TF pre-nerf was strong 'cuase bd was pretty much risk-free and ganking was ridic easy. Now you actually need to coordinate. | ||
overt
United States9006 Posts
One of two things will happen in the finals. The western teams will be taken off guard by this aggressive over-extend always style. Or the western teams will just play smart and win easy. And AP TF won't see a come back. People like jiji and Reginald who are really fucking good at AP TF don't stop playing him just because FOTM demands it. He was already not that spectacular and his only saving grace was being able to teleport anywhere on the map. | ||
Irave
United States9965 Posts
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chocolatebunny
301 Posts
On October 04 2011 15:44 Irave wrote: Really exciting series, can't help but think CLG v SK may seem pretty boring in comparison. well clg and sk both play so safe. they really don't take risks :\ so its boring to watch old games were fun to watch though :D, but as they get more experienced they are more like. if they overextend and go aggressive we punish >.< leading to such passive games | ||
toastymow
United States254 Posts
On October 04 2011 15:42 d(O.o)a wrote: K go play AP TF and dominate games. It's not as easy as it looks here. I'm not talking about low ELO, I never saw him do well at low elo. It was people like Jji that did well with him FYI Elementz says that TF is still strong. I can totally see CLG counterpicking TF against these guys, just to mess with them. | ||
Niton
United States2395 Posts
On October 04 2011 15:38 ImHuko wrote: I don't evne think its avaliable through New York, they didn't have it for Raleigh because they put more bugs in it. It isn't available because it isn't playable. Using 12/12 with the summoner spell is the most stable version Except Rampage used it this weekend without incident, so it works. China's client is just way behind development-wise because Tencent develops it. | ||
UniversalSnip
9871 Posts
On October 04 2011 15:41 chocolatebunny wrote: this taric. walking past wards with oracles and not killing them >.< to be fair there are wards like every three feet | ||
1oo
Portugal876 Posts
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d(O.o)a
Canada5066 Posts
On October 04 2011 15:44 Irave wrote: Really exciting series, can't help but think CLG v SK may seem pretty boring in comparison. think? | ||
toastymow
United States254 Posts
Honestly the CLG v SK game is all I care about. I want to see Hotshot pwn Wickd. XD | ||
Sandster
United States4054 Posts
On October 04 2011 15:44 overt wrote: This looks like a solo queue game... One of two things will happen in the finals. The western teams will be taken off guard by this aggressive over-extend always style. Or the western teams will just play smart and win easy. And AP TF won't see a come back. People like jiji and Reginald who are really fucking good at AP TF don't stop playing him just because FOTM demands it. He was already not that spectacular and his only saving grace was being able to teleport anywhere on the map. Agree on all points. jiji/regi will just play cass/ori/grag to get the same poke power as tf. This is exactly why it was a good idea for CLG to throw away their game against WE - so they now know exactly what's coming and have a strategy to counter it. | ||
chocolatebunny
301 Posts
On October 04 2011 15:47 1oo wrote: oh god, please dont be a long break, been up all night for this. yeah. that would be the worst thing to happen >.< If they do. i'm just going to call it a night. they should let us see the picks and bans so at least we can see something when they are doing those. | ||
overt
United States9006 Posts
On October 04 2011 15:46 toastymow wrote: I'm not talking about low ELO, I never saw him do well at low elo. It was people like Jji that did well with him FYI Elementz says that TF is still strong. I can totally see CLG counterpicking TF against these guys, just to mess with them. With AP TF you trade burst and sustain damage for really good poke and He can't burst people down as quickly as other APs. He can't 1v1 very well. He doesn't do sustain like Vlad or Cass. He's not terrible or anything but there are just better APs to pick and I don't think these games will see a resurgence of him. If anything these games will be a reminder of why you don't over-extend in lane. | ||
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