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Lunko
Profile Joined October 2011
Slovenia72 Posts
October 04 2011 07:07 GMT
#1781
On October 04 2011 16:02 DanielZKlein wrote:
Alright, soon as CLG are ready we're going live with picks and bans. What's everyone's prediction for this?


Since 90% of people on TL forum are americans everybody gonna be voting for CLG
I would say SK since im European, but in all honesty I would like to see CLG to win, since they are alot better to watch.
Trololo
toastymow
Profile Joined October 2011
United States254 Posts
October 04 2011 07:09 GMT
#1782
They run commercials when they are streaming picks and bans?! FOR REAL
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
October 04 2011 07:09 GMT
#1783
Assuming CLG is on their game they should win ezpz. But with Hotshot you never know.
Xevious
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2086 Posts
October 04 2011 07:09 GMT
#1784
gahh adspam
toastymow
Profile Joined October 2011
United States254 Posts
October 04 2011 07:10 GMT
#1785
On October 04 2011 16:09 overt wrote:
Assuming CLG is on their game they should win ezpz. But with Hotshot you never know.


Hotshot seems to have fixed his derp now. He's really evolved since Dreamhack.
Vitamins
Profile Joined October 2010
United States680 Posts
October 04 2011 07:10 GMT
#1786
Fuck off with the ads already. You had like 30 minutes of nothing and you play none, yet during picks and bans you spam them.
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-04 07:11:39
October 04 2011 07:10 GMT
#1787
SK bans urgot? Planning to run Caitlyn since Chauster doesn't seem comfortable on Kog?

ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhh and CLG bans Kog why. Just shot themselves in the foot now with that Caitlyn pick.
tissue
Profile Joined April 2009
Malaysia441 Posts
October 04 2011 07:11 GMT
#1788
Inb4 Nidalee not banned again.
l3ird
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States368 Posts
October 04 2011 07:12 GMT
#1789
Why no Nidalee <3 =X
Gooey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States944 Posts
October 04 2011 07:13 GMT
#1790
Uhhh, if you are CLG and have second pick, why on EARTH would you ban kogma last without cait being banned already? Kogma is the only champ that can go toe to toe with her in lane, possibly urgot, both which were banned.
www.twitch.tv/Thatgooey
Theoren
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada810 Posts
October 04 2011 07:13 GMT
#1791
Am I missing something, SK banned Nid first did they not?
toastymow
Profile Joined October 2011
United States254 Posts
October 04 2011 07:14 GMT
#1792
On October 04 2011 16:13 Theoren wrote:
Am I missing something, SK banned Nid first did they not?


Yep
BlueFlames
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1756 Posts
October 04 2011 07:14 GMT
#1793
On October 04 2011 15:54 SHr3DD3r wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2011 15:49 d(O.o)a wrote:
On October 04 2011 15:46 toastymow wrote:
On October 04 2011 15:42 d(O.o)a wrote:
On October 04 2011 15:41 toastymow wrote:
On October 04 2011 15:39 tobi9999 wrote:
so, why did people stop using TF after his global teleport range nerf?


Because FOTM declares that the second a hero is slightly nerfed you must instantly go find another hero.

Really, people are idiots. And WE is proving that 100%


K go play AP TF and dominate games. It's not as easy as it looks here.


I'm not talking about low ELO, I never saw him do well at low elo. It was people like Jji that did well with him

FYI Elementz says that TF is still strong. I can totally see CLG counterpicking TF against these guys, just to mess with them.


AP TF doesn't work well anymore at high elo either because as was mentioned he requires so much co-ordination now, you can't just sit in lane and gank as soon as the opportunity arises now, you have to be planning it ahead of time, and you can no longer backdoor with impunity because of the range on ulti no longer allowing you to get into the teamfight instantly.

Being good in solo Q and being good in competitive play are two totally different things all together.

Like ashe is a shit pick in solo Q majority if not all the time, but is still a great pick in team games. TF still works in competitive play as well.

EDIT - im kinda sleepy so not sure if this is what you were talking about. If you were JUST talking about solo Q then nvm


I have to disagree on the Ashe comment. She is a greate pick for solo q in low and high elo. You just have to play safer and farm no matter what. In low elo, games mostly go over the 30 min mark and it is easy to farm up with ashe to hit like a train in lategame. An other advantage she gives is the initiate. In low elo people are either playing rambo-style or are too scared to initiate, even the tanks, so if you hit a good arrow, even the bad players know what to do then.

In high elo solo q, you might not have communication over skype or ts, but players generally know how to protect a carry and they know who is supposed to get the farm going safely, so i dont see your point there.

With twisted fate its a little different. As you said in arranged games either tf ap or ad can do a good job. And even in solo q both can be viable, but you have to be good at playing him and you have to know, that you will have to lead your team and communicate a lot. For ganks a stun plus some decent damage is mostly enough to secure the kill. And if your solo q mates know what it means if you ping a target and they start to position themselves before you activate your ultimate, it can work really well too.
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-04 07:16:05
October 04 2011 07:15 GMT
#1794
On October 04 2011 16:13 Gooey wrote:
Uhhh, if you are CLG and have second pick, why on EARTH would you ban kogma last without cait being banned already? Kogma is the only champ that can go toe to toe with her in lane, possibly urgot, both which were banned.


I'm like 90% certain that Chauster doesn't like or doesn't feel comfortable on Kog. In which case, let Chauster run Brand and jiji run Kog.

edit:
Riot, please nerf Caitlyn. She's the bane of bottom lane and is making it more boring than when everyone played Ashe/Corki.
Node
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2159 Posts
October 04 2011 07:15 GMT
#1795
On October 04 2011 16:07 Lunko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2011 16:02 DanielZKlein wrote:
Alright, soon as CLG are ready we're going live with picks and bans. What's everyone's prediction for this?


Since 90% of people on TL forum are americans[...]


I realize you were probably being hyperbolic, but that's not even close to true. http://www.teamliquid.net/poll/index.php?poll_id=478
whole lies with a half smile
Lunko
Profile Joined October 2011
Slovenia72 Posts
October 04 2011 07:17 GMT
#1796
On October 04 2011 16:13 Gooey wrote:
Uhhh, if you are CLG and have second pick, why on EARTH would you ban kogma last without cait being banned already? Kogma is the only champ that can go toe to toe with her in lane, possibly urgot, both which were banned.


Kog is alot better than cait, maby not the first 5 lvls but after that he dominates cait. Urgoth just got banned to counter clg ad carry
Trololo
d(O.o)a
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada5066 Posts
October 04 2011 07:17 GMT
#1797
On October 04 2011 16:07 Lunko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2011 16:02 DanielZKlein wrote:
Alright, soon as CLG are ready we're going live with picks and bans. What's everyone's prediction for this?


Since 90% of people on TL forum are americans everybody gonna be voting for CLG
I would say SK since im European, but in all honesty I would like to see CLG to win, since they are alot better to watch.


Where do you get this idea? TL was founded by Europeans and has an extremely large European following.
Hi.
Lunko
Profile Joined October 2011
Slovenia72 Posts
October 04 2011 07:18 GMT
#1798
On October 04 2011 16:15 Node wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2011 16:07 Lunko wrote:
On October 04 2011 16:02 DanielZKlein wrote:
Alright, soon as CLG are ready we're going live with picks and bans. What's everyone's prediction for this?


Since 90% of people on TL forum are americans[...]


I realize you were probably being hyperbolic, but that's not even close to true. http://www.teamliquid.net/poll/index.php?poll_id=478


My bad should have said 90% of the people on LoL forum are american

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=271118
Trololo
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
October 04 2011 07:18 GMT
#1799
High fives for Joe and Z!
toastymow
Profile Joined October 2011
United States254 Posts
October 04 2011 07:19 GMT
#1800
Ashe pick. I had this gut instict. They banned as many powerful carries as they could, and then picked Ashe.
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