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climax
United States1088 Posts
On October 03 2011 15:06 Aurdon wrote: "Let's back off, buy, get baron, and do the final push to win!" "Fuck that! We gotta win now there might be a tie! GoGoGo!" Thats exactly what I am worried about. Forced to play aggressive when its not even necessary. | ||
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Lunko
Slovenia72 Posts
Its a normal tie breaker. Since you cant go by rounds or whatever like in fps games | ||
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Cixah
United States11285 Posts
On October 03 2011 15:09 KaveDizzle wrote: What day are we on right now for IEM? Day 1 got canned due to client errors, they are cramming days 1 and 2 into right now. | ||
JBright
Vancouver14381 Posts
On October 03 2011 15:08 Shiragaku wrote: What did DotA or HoN do when faced with events like this? I'm pretty sure that the 1 million DotA 2 tournament also used game times. On October 03 2011 15:07 tobi9999 wrote: Lets compare to SC Cheesing and winning with 4pool is obviously better than playing macro game np Obviously SC tournaments don't tend to have bo1 but that's why I drew up the comparison. Technically this method is better than the coin flip they had a DH a few months back  | ||
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taLbuk
Madagascar1879 Posts
On October 03 2011 15:10 Lunko wrote: The fact that the time was a tie breaker for last couple of events in moba games shouldnt rly supprise anybody. The same tie breaker was set for dota2 tournament last time aswell. Everytime a team was loosing they wanted to buy those extra seconds before loosing. Its a normal tie breaker. Since you cant go by rounds or whatever like in fps games LoL and DotA and the meaning of "time" are not applicable to eachother IMO. | ||
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DarkRise
1644 Posts
Shoulda done an offline tiebreaker but kinda understand why they did it because they're so behind schedule thanks to fail server/client. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
You can argue that the DCs might not have affected the final outcomes of the games, but when game-times are being used as tie-breakers? They'll DEFINITELY have an effect on that. | ||
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taLbuk
Madagascar1879 Posts
On October 03 2011 15:12 DarkRise wrote: I don't like that system. Shoulda done an offline tiebreaker but kinda understand why they did it because they're so behind schedule thanks to fail server/client. IEM rules are in place far before the event, it's not like they just decided that is how they will decide a 3 way-tie. | ||
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Lunko
Slovenia72 Posts
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dtz
5834 Posts
I remember Navi was winning handily against scythe in group stage and when scythe said GG and about to leave, Navi kindly told them " stay, don't leave till throne is dead" because apparently they are cool with each other and stuff and navi reminded them that time rating counts for tiebreakers. | ||
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Misder
United States1557 Posts
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22677 Posts
That is a minimum of 3 games which right now took them about 4 hours to do. If they need more then 3 it becomes a total nightmare. They cant fix this like they do in sc2 just because of the time needed to play even a single game. | ||
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[-Bluewolf-]
United States609 Posts
Even that last stand was pretty stupid. Why fight at 1 inhibitor instead of the two towers at their nexus as they probably could have dragged it out longer there? This time rule can be abused so badly in future events. | ||
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Lancer723
United States486 Posts
This is not a good solution. But I can see why it was chosen. I do not like it but I understand it. | ||
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overt
United States9006 Posts
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Promises
Netherlands1821 Posts
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Blitzkrieg0
United States13132 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On October 03 2011 15:13 Lunko wrote: What im trying to say people here raging, there is not a better way to decide a tie breaker in LoL there really isnt. Thats why time is allways gonna be a tie breaker in moba games. unless its bo3 or bo5 where rounds can be a factor. There's a simple solution to this. If you can't afford to actually play tiebreakers in a round-robin format (OSL style groups), then you should just use a double-elimination group stage (MSL style groups). The advantage of round-robin groups is that it's supposed to be more "fair" because in double-elim, the winner of the winner's game never plays the loser of the loser's game, but honestly the fairness argument goes out the window if you are using arbitrary statistics for tiebreakers. Incidentally this actually SAVES time because the group-stage involves 5 games instead of 6. | ||
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isM
United States735 Posts
A side note: I miss de_nuke | ||
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Navi
5286 Posts
winners play each other winner of winners game advances losers duke it out winner of losers game plays loser of winner's game winner of said match advances no chance for tiebreakers, good for these time slated events that LoL is played in | ||
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