[Champion] Teemo - Page 5

On November 26 2013 06:05 Slayer91 wrote:
kassadin blitz nidalee thresh all make people very uncomfortable because of how hard they punish mistakes and people dont want to have to worry that much about that

also lol@obesechicken trying to tell a former #1 EUW challenger (if on points and not mmr) that counterpicks dont matter because you can outplay

although agree with this statement to some extent the better you get the more they matter

and then you also misinterpret sponkz point, which was that you're acting as there is never any point discussing what champion is good or bad vs X because anyone can beat anyone which is a retarded argument

On November 26 2013 00:42 obesechicken13 wrote:

Your conclusions don't make sense. Any champion can beat anyone, that's true. You should play who you're good at instead of picking random. I never said you should pick random.

If bans were just for comfort zones I wouldn't be seeing Kassadin Nidalee Blitz Thresh bans every game.

On November 26 2013 07:31 Tula wrote:


? You are pretty much proving his point. Few if any soloq botlanes are confident going against Blitz even if Pros don't have a problem countering him. So because almost everyone hates playing against blitz and no one as first pick takes support he is usually banned.
Same for thresh basically.

Nidalee and Kassadin are another case, notice that if the first pick is going mid he'll often leave kassa open if he is confident in playing a counter to him. If on the other hand the guy doing the bans is going to be adc/jungle/top he'll almost certainly ban kassa, simply because you don't have the confidence in random mid lane guys to either counter him or ward up properly to pull the teeth from his roaming.

Any champion can beat anyone is standard feelgood bullshit. Any champion in the hands of a significantly more skilled player can win even unfavorable matchups might be more correct. Your forgetting the fact that the matchmaking system tries its very best to make sure such gaps in skill don't enter the game though. So all things being normal (not a smurfing pro or a ebay boosted player) your opponent will roughly be in the same class as you.

That is the entire point why we discuss favorable matchups here, because in about 70% of your games you will be within the skill bracket where favorable and unfavorable can make a difference.

On November 26 2013 07:01 obesechicken13 wrote:

Lol, I can't see borders on TL discussions.

On November 26 2013 08:12 Tula wrote:
The common consensus was that you should stick to 1 role if possible (top, mid etc.) and a maximum of 5 chars within that role. Maybe 2 other champions (1 support, 1 jungle) for obstinate teammates in picks and bans

On November 26 2013 13:50 obesechicken13 wrote:

That makes sense. If you're versed in a number of roles in one lane I can see counterpicking being more important. Then there's people like Boxbox who only play one champion but I guess they're the exception. I've been focusing on trying to have one champion for each role now except I have two junglers. Sejuani for when the team needs a tank and Rengar otherwise and I feel that's helped. So I can see your point here. I don't know if I'll have time to diversify my tops though.

This was one of the most civilized discussions I've had on TL in a long time. If anyone wants to continue we can make another thread. We've gotten off topic from Teemo counters.

On November 26 2013 13:50 obesechicken13 wrote:

That makes sense. If you're versed in a number of roles in one lane I can see counterpicking being more important. Then there's people like Boxbox who only play one champion but I guess they're the exception. I've been focusing on trying to have one champion for each role now except I have two junglers. Sejuani for when the team needs a tank and Rengar otherwise and I feel that's helped. So I can see your point here. I don't know if I'll have time to diversify my tops though.

This was one of the most civilized discussions I've had on TL in a long time. If anyone wants to continue we can make another thread. We've gotten off topic from Teemo counters.

On November 26 2013 22:24 RouaF wrote:
Can we stop this pointless debate which has nothing to do in our beloved teemo thread ?
Lets talk 3.14 Teemo.

I feel he is quite decent in solo queue right now because nobody fucking wards because people are still used to supports spamming wards. Guess what they can't anymore ! Teemo brings great map control/vision with shrooms and since oracles are gone and nobody buys pinks/reveal trinket : shrooms are even more annoying.

Teemo doesn't really need to start with a ward anymore thanks to the ward trinket, allowing him to go boots 4 pots or dblade 1 pots depending on the matchup. I tried a bit of everything and I've had way more success mid because it allows him to control the map/dragon, also dblade start against a lot of mid can be abused, auto the minions to get a faster level 2 and then just stand behind him and his minions.

I ran mostly 30/0/0, ap quints, flat ap blues, armor yellows, hybrid pen reds E poison procs the weaving thing each tick taking the "bullyness" to a whole other level. Of course he's still squishy as fuck and has very few room for errors.

On November 27 2013 14:50 obesechicken13 wrote:
Oh shit. No oracles means you're basically top tier again huh?

Gotta get on that AP Teemo again.

do you all go nashors on teemo? if not, how much CD do you usually end up with and what CD items do you buy?

wow just played a teemo vs vlad ranked, vlad beat me in lane. He got first tower and was 6/4 me 4/6. Alot of times we ended up trading kills. Similar CS.

but late game shrooms are so damn OP. 900 dmg shrooms with no oracles/limited pinks is ridiculous. I also went twin shadows so if anyone landed on a shroom it was an easy pick (especially with a morgana on my team). Teemo is just so good for jungle control.

On November 29 2013 10:52 LightningStrike wrote:
Is Jayce considered a hard counter to Teemo? One of the my games as Teemo I had to face a Jayce and I wrecked him so hard by just dodging his EQ combo every time he tried it.