[Champion] Lux - Page 3

On December 11 2012 01:41 Ketara wrote:
As an aside, I'm testing out a new item order to see if it feels more fluid than Chalice -> Deathcap -> Athenes, if anybody wants to test it with me and see if it feels better.

Trying the following:
Chalice
-> NLR
-> Fiendish Codex
-> Sell flask for Blasting Wand or go straight to Deathcap
-> Deathcap
-> Athenes

On January 02 2013 18:50 BBC.807 wrote:


Here's my build, it's very fluent (i feel).

- 3x health, boots (needs no explanation)
- 2x dorans (gives you that extra AP and lane sustain that you need into the mid-game)

Depending on situation i go Boots of Lucidity/Sorc. If i am far ahead and feel comfortable i'll rush XXL wand then go boots afterwards. My main argument is basicly that if your winning lane without boots why do you need to rush them?
- Rabodans Deathcap (depending on how the game goes i'll go straight to the XXL wand)
- Morellonomicon

From here on and out i usually choose items based on my opponents and situation: Lichbane, Zhonya Hourglass, Spirit Visage, Voidstaff, Liandry

On January 02 2013 19:47 dae wrote:


Lux has pretty much carried me to 2100 elo.

First off, boots 3 is a vastly inferior start to flask/faerie/2 pots as it will straight up lose to any1 that goes flask.

Secondly, Lux is a very safe laner with her shield, slow, snare, and ranged farming, meaning you really do not need to get 2 dorans, and can instead go straight for late game items.

Third, I'd honestly never get cdr boots on mid Lux as you will get max cdr from morellos blue in the midgame and morellos dfg in the late game (I get dfg for the ap and cdr, and it helps kill tanks that get to you.)

Fourth, Void staff should almost always be your 2nd or 3rd big item as I believe it gives the most burst damage to your combo per gold, as long as you have a decent amount of ap already, as well as going very well with sorcs.

The entire idea of my build of rushing deathcap/void/morellos is to be a constant threat throughout the early midgame and lategame, to the point where if you catch their mid/ad/squishy support/squishy jungle in a snare you should be able to 100-0 them.

Mana is a bit of an issue if you can't get blues, but saving your mana for farming (when you need to) and/or catching people and bursting them down, instead of spamming e at them in lane, works pretty well. You also get ALOT of mana from flask.

Lux is pretty much the one ap that I think can get away with building 0 hp/mr/armor as her ranges are incredible, as well as her shield, snare, and slow give you alot of active defense. the more ap you get, the scarier you are for the other team and the stronger your shield is for teamfights.

Edit: I've also been running ignite alot for lane dominance, with the one exception is tp for tf as its hard to catch him in lane and being able to follow his first ult and stop the snowball is huge.

Edit 2: Also, if the other team has any kind of aoe teamcomp, unless your qing to try and catch someone be WAY behind your team so that you don't get caught in the aoe and instead can shield and burst the aoe'ers.

Edit 3: Also, Wards, buy wards, lots of wards, and ward places where people walk by bushes/cliffs where you can catch them from.

Secondly, Lux is a very safe laner with her shield, slow, snare, and ranged farming, meaning you really do not need to get 2 dorans, and can instead go straight for late game items

TY for a good answer, regarding:
Secondly, Lux is a very safe laner with her shield, slow, snare, and ranged farming, meaning you really do not need to get 2 dorans, and can instead go straight for late game items
Why do you think so? What are the mechanics? I dont understand. I usually go 2xHealth, 1xMana + Boots.

On January 02 2013 14:49 dae wrote:
Out of curiosity, running barrier/tp and going chalice first, how often do you actually kill your lane opponent 1v1?

It seems you wouldnt have the damage.

Why do you think so? What are the mechanics? I dont understand. I usually go 2xHealth, 1xMana + Boots.

On January 02 2013 21:05 Ketara wrote:


I rarely get kills pre-6 1v1, but almost always force them to back early and have a CS/level lead, which tends to lead to kills in the 7-11 area.

I do get kills if they try to go all in on me, because in that situation Barrier is simply better than Ignite (shields more damage than Ignite causes). But that's at 1350 elo and I'm still getting games where say, the jungler jumps into tower range to finish me off and I barrier and snare him.

The way I play Lux I think is kind of to push the lane real hard, get a CS lead and deny the enemy mid farm, and then gank other lanes with lasers. Which is probably why I prefer the Chalice, it gives you the regen necessary to keep the minion waves at the enemy tower.

On January 02 2013 21:12 Ketara wrote:


Lux has enough range, enough base movespeed, and enough base AA damage, that you are an early game bully. The only enemy mids that can really go toe to toe with you in a 1v1 at level 1-2 I've found are Ziggs and Brand.

Dorans Rings are basically a catch up item. You use them to make up for a weaker early game vs. the enemy mid so that you won't be at a disadvantage. They have good cost efficiency, but they delay your late game items and weaken your mid game in comparison to just rushing late game items.

So basically, you never WANT a Dorans Ring, but there are matchups where you NEED one. Since Lux is so much stronger than almost all other mids early game, Lux doesn't need them and can just skip straight to the big stuff.

On January 03 2013 06:43 clickrush wrote:


I don't agree with your logic. You should itemize a champion in a way so you have an optimal build when that champion is at his strongest phase. Lux shines through early/midgame, so a couple of dorans are extremely efficient on her.

On January 04 2013 09:45 Ketara wrote:
Let me try to sell Barrier to you, dae.

Let's say you're running Ignite and your opponent is running Barrier.

You've already said that Barrier is better for lategame teamfights. It is! It so is.

So early game at 1-6, you try to kill your opponent. They use Barrier, which more or less counteracts your Ignite. The two cancel each other out, essentially, leaving you neutral. They have the same cooldown, so every time you Ignite them, they can Barrier to cancel it out.

This will continue until you get to the teamfight stage, where Barrier is better.

This assessment is of course matchup dependant, but as a general rule, that's my logic.


I wonder how long it will be before the mid meta is for both mids to take Barrier, at which point 1v1 kills will probably just altogether stop happening if skill levels are equal.

On January 04 2013 09:45 Ketara wrote:
Let me try to sell Barrier to you, dae.

Let's say you're running Ignite and your opponent is running Barrier.

You've already said that Barrier is better for lategame teamfights. It is! It so is.

So early game at 1-6, you try to kill your opponent. They use Barrier, which more or less counteracts your Ignite. The two cancel each other out, essentially, leaving you neutral. They have the same cooldown, so every time you Ignite them, they can Barrier to cancel it out.

This will continue until you get to the teamfight stage, where Barrier is better.

This assessment is of course matchup dependant, but as a general rule, that's my logic.


I wonder how long it will be before the mid meta is for both mids to take Barrier, at which point 1v1 kills will probably just altogether stop happening if skill levels are equal.

On January 02 2013 11:11 Ketara wrote:
Recently I duo a lot with Requizen and since I'm like 50-100 elo ahead of him I'm first pick a lot.

But other than that, I'm just polite I guess?

If somebody higher up wants mid, I'm like

"I would really prefer to play mid."
"Would you mind?"

Just treating people like people works pretty well, you know?