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On May 24 2013 02:22 Ketara wrote:
So, I have a new strategy vs. AP Yi, that I think is working pretty well. It's the same strat I use against Morgana.
Take teleport, never fight Yi/Morg in lane at all ever, tell your jungler not to gank mid. Just clear, ignore them in lane, and use teleport to out-roam them.
Also use a full per-level runepage (HP/level yellows, AP/level blues, AP/level quints) to help ensure you have a stronger late game.
I think the realization is that Yi has to snowball. He is unbeatable when ahead and useless when behind, so if you never fight him and tell your jungler to never gank mid, there's no possibility of him ever getting kills. You can stay equal on farm with him, but with the teleport you can counter any roaming he does and possibly get some telegank kills yourself.
I don't really understand the point of AP/level blues. Seems like you're just increasing the odds he gets a reset early, which is how Yi tends to get out of control.
Tips for fighting Yi: do your best to ignore him in lane, and keep both sides of the river warded so you have a good idea where he's going. Let your team know he's coming, and follow him as quickly as you can (but at a safe distance). As long as you alert your team to his presence, it's not especially likely he gets any kills. Be really mindful about shielding your team in teamfights, it'll go a long way toward preventing resets.
Spectral Wraith seems like a waste of a slot on Lux. She already gets most of the CDR and mana regen she needs from either grail/morello's, and while spell vamp is nice, its not exactly that great on her.
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You're getting the per level blues because you're not going to be fighting Yi at all. All of your interactions with anybody will be outside of the lane, and probably won't even start until after level 6. AP/level blues equal flats at level 7.
Could do MR/level too, I suppose.
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On May 30 2013 09:17 zer0das wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2013 02:22 Ketara wrote:
So, I have a new strategy vs. AP Yi, that I think is working pretty well. It's the same strat I use against Morgana.
Take teleport, never fight Yi/Morg in lane at all ever, tell your jungler not to gank mid. Just clear, ignore them in lane, and use teleport to out-roam them.
Also use a full per-level runepage (HP/level yellows, AP/level blues, AP/level quints) to help ensure you have a stronger late game.
I think the realization is that Yi has to snowball. He is unbeatable when ahead and useless when behind, so if you never fight him and tell your jungler to never gank mid, there's no possibility of him ever getting kills. You can stay equal on farm with him, but with the teleport you can counter any roaming he does and possibly get some telegank kills yourself. I don't really understand the point of AP/level blues. Seems like you're just increasing the odds he gets a reset early, which is how Yi tends to get out of control. Tips for fighting Yi: do your best to ignore him in lane, and keep both sides of the river warded so you have a good idea where he's going. Let your team know he's coming, and follow him as quickly as you can (but at a safe distance). As long as you alert your team to his presence, it's not especially likely he gets any kills. Be really mindful about shielding your team in teamfights, it'll go a long way toward preventing resets. Spectral Wraith seems like a waste of a slot on Lux. She already gets most of the CDR and mana regen she needs from either grail/morello's, and while spell vamp is nice, its not exactly that great on her.
Yeah I'd have to agree with this. It's definitely mandatory to run mr blues vs yi as you will take alpha's early when he goes to hit the caster minion line. The mr will most likely be useful in team fights as well. Spectral wraith is not really a good investment on her due all her spells are multi target thus not getting the full benefits of spellvamp. Athene's would be the wise choice for sure for the extra mr/mana regen and the nice 20% cdr.
Off topic but still about lux, Since they've nerfed her base ms a little has anyone switched to ms quints on her? Or is the earlier AP more essential in lane?
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I barely even notice the movement speed decrease. I feel like if you get caught as Lux, it's usually because of Jarvan or Kha'zix or some other obnoxious dash/gapcloser.
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My strategy vs AP yi is the same as my strategy vs kass, tell bot lane to 2v1 mid and destroy him while I 1v2 bot lane.
Ap yi really sucks at 1v2 lanes since he is very squishy if you have any cc at all and when he q's in to cs he can just be autoed out of lane, and his w has a massive cd at lvl 1. Also, an AP yi without his lichbane/deathcap really is not that scary.
Edit: after playing alot of AP yi I have come to the conclusion that if he has a hard time in lane/can't free farm his impact on the game is minimal compared to a free farm Yi.
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Yeah, fuck Jarvan.
His mid lane ganks are ridic vs. Lux.
Can't snare him, have to flash to get away if he ults which means his next ult is a guaranteed kill.
Fuck Jarvan.
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On May 30 2013 23:05 Ketara wrote:
Yeah, fuck Jarvan.
His mid lane ganks are ridic vs. Lux.
Can't snare him, have to flash to get away if he ults which means his next ult is a guaranteed kill.
Fuck Jarvan.
Im guessing you havn't faced jarvan mid before, its 10000% worse then jarvan jungle.
Also, ad nid/ad tf mid that pretty much go dorans boots hexdrinker is such a stupid lane, you have no chance to kill them and they can walk up and auto you to death.
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Oh I've faced Jarvan mid too. Fuck that TWICE.
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Gotta keep those Lux winrates down somehow huehue.
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Personally I find 40% CDR mandatory when playing Lux. Usually I opt for both Athene's and Morello's.
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