EPT[Champion] Lee Sin - Page 10
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Mondeezy
United States1938 Posts
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komokun
France343 Posts
On March 21 2013 02:16 Mondeezy wrote: Yeah I never max W anymore after nerfs. I see a lot of people recommend maxing E now, but I feel like Q is so much stronger against squishies. Dunno, gonna keep playing around with the two. So far I've been maxing Q if snowballing and E if not. I max W in toplane or midlane when I want sustain. Pretty fun with hydra. | ||
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Lightswarm
Canada966 Posts
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komokun
France343 Posts
On April 16 2013 01:45 Lightswarm wrote: what do you guys think of getting tiamat on lee sin? midgame he is still a beast with his burst and in lategame he can just splitpush and join the teamfight in a matter of seconds. its also nice to start the lane with 2 rejuv beads I love it toplane, although it kinda requires you to be ahead. It's also one of the only way to stay relevant lategame. I usually get hydra->randuins->LW/giant belt/aegis | ||
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TheLastRaven
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komokun
France343 Posts
On April 17 2013 15:38 TheLastRaven wrote: Do people still play Lee top ranked after the W nerfs? Though Lee definitely got better item choices in S3, I think those nerfs were over the top. Jungle Lee falls off even faster he used to, and as fun as it is to play Lee top, I can't think of a single good reason to pick him over many other champions. I almost never play Lee top but when I do I usually get hydra, that's what I meant. Topsin is situationnal, but yeah kinda sad how hard it is for him these days... | ||
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Juicyfruit
Canada5484 Posts
On April 16 2013 01:45 Lightswarm wrote: what do you guys think of getting tiamat on lee sin? midgame he is still a beast with his burst and in lategame he can just splitpush and join the teamfight in a matter of seconds. its also nice to start the lane with 2 rejuv beads At what point would you get the tiamat? I don't dislike Hydra as an item on LeeSin because I think the active could work well, but he pretty much demands that you buy the most duel-efficient stats at all points throughout the game. | ||
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Arisen
United States2382 Posts
http://www.solomid.net/guides.php?g=33102-shakedrizzle-leesin-build-guide I am doing really well in a lot of my games at the moment, but I don't know what to build when I'm snowbaling early and want to get a good advantage for my team (especailly when they're not doing well). Should you just continue with the standard build, or rush a hexdrinker/MoM or build into BT or something? Sometimes I find I get into a big lead but end up losing the game because I couldn't press that advantage hard enough | ||
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imBLIND
United States2626 Posts
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
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heroyi
United States1064 Posts
On June 08 2013 06:38 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote: Ravenous Hydra is pretty much strictly better than Bloodthirster on Lee, though. Yea idk people build Hydra on champs that don't utilize AS well like riven -_-! | ||
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Mondeezy
United States1938 Posts
On April 17 2013 15:38 TheLastRaven wrote: Do people still play Lee top ranked after the W nerfs? Though Lee definitely got better item choices in S3, I think those nerfs were over the top. Jungle Lee falls off even faster he used to, and as fun as it is to play Lee top, I can't think of a single good reason to pick him over many other champions. I've been playing him top in ranked lately with some success (I think I'm like 5 wins out of 6 games with it, much better than my jungle winrate with him). I either max Q or E, and max whichever I didn't second (rarely max shield unless I'm losing hard to poke). I get a Brut into Tiamat into Hydra, then LW if way ahead or Randuins if equal, followed by whichever of the two I didn't get, and Sightstone. I usually snowball my lane, but if I can't then I just play peeler or initiator depending on the comp. It tends to work pretty well, plus I've been working on my Insec initiations  | ||
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Rimak
Denmark434 Posts
I've recently been trying Dorans blade jungle on diffrent champions with relatively high results, especially Udyr/Elise/Xin Zhao. But I am struggling to start effectively on Lee Sin, I end up with 1/5 of HP after second buff, which is kinda poorly. If you are starting dorans on lee what are Runes/Masteries and skill orded you use? Thanks in advance. | ||
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
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clickrush
Switzerland3257 Posts
On July 22 2013 19:08 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: i was just about to come in here to post that starting dblade, smiting red, and going straight bot lane is pretty much guaranteed firstblood on blue side, everyone's timings are so fucked up in this age of smiteless leashes that they don't expect you in the bush at all i dont like lvl 2 ganks with lee sin as I feel you need W to close in Q to counter flash and E to slow them while you hit em. I allways ward brush at lvl 1 as a support and I often ward river lvl 1 before leashing with a 1min ward. showing up lvl 2 as leesin botlane is also pretty much giving up your blue. | ||
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
i usually tell my laners what i'm going to do, and just q into the other bush when the support wards and go ham with e and autos | ||
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imBLIND
United States2626 Posts
On July 22 2013 16:16 Rimak wrote: Hey TL. I've recently been trying Dorans blade jungle on diffrent champions with relatively high results, especially Udyr/Elise/Xin Zhao. But I am struggling to start effectively on Lee Sin, I end up with 1/5 of HP after second buff, which is kinda poorly. If you are starting dorans on lee what are Runes/Masteries and skill orded you use? Thanks in advance. AD quints, AD marks, flat armor yellows, flat mres blues. 21/9/0 masteries. You also have to start W, not Q or E. I also just smite the buff while my 2nd W is up for spell vamp. Get Q on level up, then go gank. I like doing this on purple side because top lane is rarely warded that early and the red buff can replace the E slow. Also good for counter jungle routes. I'd advise a lot of caution when doing this though. | ||
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Rimak
Denmark434 Posts
On July 23 2013 13:09 imBLIND wrote: AD quints, AD marks, flat armor yellows, flat mres blues. 21/9/0 masteries. You also have to start W, not Q or E. I also just smite the buff while my 2nd W is up for spell vamp. Get Q on level up, then go gank. I like doing this on purple side because top lane is rarely warded that early and the red buff can replace the E slow. Also good for counter jungle routes. I'd advise a lot of caution when doing this though. Thank you for the tip. Was messing around for couple of hours and seems that found acceptable stats for me. 4AS marks, 5 AD marks, flat armor yellows and flat MR blues (obv) 2 AD quints and 1 LS quint. For masteries i go 18/0/12 to gain 3% LS. Starting W gives you 10% ls and you can ez clear both buffs without losing too much hp. But then again, I'm still doubting AS marks and also possibility to start with E with initial 5% ls. | ||
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Mauzel
United States421 Posts
First: What do you guys consider favorable matchups against Lee Sin in the jungle? I think I have a losing winrate vs Nasus. B/C he's so tanky / good at killing dragon I feel like even with agressive counter jungling I have trouble keeping him down if it goes to the late game. Second: What do you consider favorable matchups for Lee Sin up top? He seems more like a niche pick top but I love playing Lee Sin. Just don't know when I should bring him out top lane. I got the sense he was good against champions gated by mana because he can out sustain / out push them until they are OOM. | ||
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NeedsmoreCELLTECH
Netherlands1242 Posts
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