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On August 17 2012 22:34 koreasilver wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2012 21:38 clickrush wrote:On August 17 2012 19:00 Lmui wrote:On August 17 2012 17:59 AceLight wrote:
Is Toplane/Jungle AD Lee Sin Viable? If you mean building PURELY AD items like IE, PD no. Bruiser AD items though, building like an AD assassin works however Mercs Bloodthirster Last whisper Maw Guardian Angel Aegis/other survivability item This is for toplane. Jungle, there's no way you're getting fed enough to get any of that. I've never seen a lee sin top lane build that way. I rarely see like 1-2 purely offensive items like BT or LW and in most cases they built only 1-3 hybrid tank items like atmas/wriggles/mallet etc. and the rest pure tank. can you point to a player or some players who do such a build regulary? Also the order of those items seems to be out of place from my point of view. I'm pretty sure he just laid out items, not in any chronological way. Voyboy did some really aggressive Lee Sin builds the last couple of tournament games he had while on Dignitas. He built a BT like every game.
I can imagine a skilled player like Voyboy can pull off BT into tank items into LW.
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When cruzer played Lee vs WE he went like Doran doran hexdrinker (vs vlad) phage -> Mallet
Then the game was over. I think in tournament play you'd want more beef than BTLW gets you, even with all that AD you'll drop off a bit late game and you will want to be able to initiate and/or peel for your team. Can't play that squishy. It's really good in SoloQueue though.
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You can always do infamous voyboy lee sin balls too the walls build, with IE, bildgewater cutlass, LW, BT, or some combos of that.
I really like Brutalizer + BC as main damage items, and then hybrid dmg/defensive items after that.
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On top lane Lee I've been doing double dblade, mercs, BT, Warmogs, GA, LW. I also max Q and then E leaving W at level 1. I don't do this against everyone though. There's some heroes like Riven who I have to level W and possibly get Wriggles against. It's been working out great for me though.
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How effective is a no rune jungle with Lee sin and if viable what route should I take with what leashes?
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He can jungle with cloth+5. Route depends on where you think you want to gank, or if you just wanna farm the jungle early on because you don't have boots.
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More over looking for a farm jungle, or possibly a jungle with a Lvl 2 red gank.
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If you're gonna red gank you're gonna need peeps to whittle down the big wraith as you take it down, then some more help on the little ones. Get a healthy leash on red with with help from mid + adjacent lane to red. The best you can prob do is only burn 1 pot, unless you have a blitz pulling red back to starting position or something.
If you just wanna farm farm farm wolves > blue > wraiths > wolves > red > wraiths or minis or gank. Pretty standard. I guess runeless/masteryless lee sin will arrive to the repeated camps with the minions already having been respawned.
EQ for 1 and 2, rest on is very flexible on Lee Sin. You want W by 4 at the latest.
Someone with a better understanding should correct me otherwise.
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Hmm. Been using Shake's Guide, but I really feel like my lvl 2 ganks are weak b/c i'm at such low HP. Does lee need stronger leashes than your average bear?
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On November 10 2012 14:21 cLutZ wrote:
Hmm. Been using Shake's Guide, but I really feel like my lvl 2 ganks are weak b/c i'm at such low HP. Does lee need stronger leashes than your average bear?
assuming you're not getting a smiteless pull, pot after wolves/wraiths then again. you should be fine.
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i just figured out how to land Q second part damage without flying over consistently!
[you] [ something to W, can be ward or creep] [target marked with Q]
hit Q, smartcast W to that thing in between immediately. SONIC HADOUKEN
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And yet another lovely thing from the new patch. Sword of the Ruined King allows Lee to solo baron early. + Show Spoiler +
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On December 09 2012 19:27 TeuTeu wrote:And yet another lovely thing from the new patch. Sword of the Ruined King allows Lee to solo baron early. + Show Spoiler +http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKF0Ez-bNJ0
Doesn't seem unreasonable given how fed he is. Seriously, hes 2-3 levels above everyone else as Lee, and 11-1. And as Jax, hes 17-2. Hardly realistic scenarios
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really who maxes q and w Oo.
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Literally everyone has been maxing Q or W first until very recently because of Chauster.
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You updated the masteries, but left some of the season 2 descriptions. Which is really confusing because you mention unyielding (flat damage reduction against champions only) isn't that great, and then a few sentences later are talking about indomintable
Only noticed because I'm trying to learn Lee Sin in anticipation of the Rengar nerfs. Good grief this dude is hard. Getting a lot better though.
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On December 13 2012 21:17 zer0das wrote:You updated the masteries, but left some of the season 2 descriptions. Which is really confusing because you mention unyielding (flat damage reduction against champions only) isn't that great, and then a few sentences later are talking about indomintable Only noticed because I'm trying to learn Lee Sin in anticipation of the Rengar nerfs. Good grief this dude is hard. Getting a lot better though.
Derp, lol.
Thanks fixed.
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So tiamat/hydra on lee is really good, when you use the active it resets your attack animation and triggers your passive. I've just tried it on jungle lee where I build it after wriggles and boots, it really speeds up clearing and the vamp from aoe damage is significant. Dunno if it could work in the other lanes, would be nice to read if other players have tried it with or without success.
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