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On April 23 2012 23:28 miicah wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2012 21:29 Alaric wrote:On April 23 2012 14:27 miicah wrote:
idk about the math but I would think that hp/5 quints would be better than spellvamp due to the fact that most of your damage is from W and E when you clear camps.
I could be wrong though. Uh? E doesn't interact in any sort with spellvamp. It's a damage boost, spellvamp only works with spells that actually inflict damage themselves. Yeah if you read my quote I said hp/5 would be better than spellvamp BECAUSE your damage comes from W and E; it was assumed knowledge that e doesn't benefit from spellvamp so hp/5 would win over it. Round-a-bout way of saying it but yeah
Spell Vamp works on Q and Smite, which roughly brings it even with hp5 for early clears. It also scales with ranks in W.
If you need to use quints for sustain on Mundo pick whichever one suits your needs. hp5 is better for early ganking, Spell Vamp is best for clearing, and Life Steal is best if you frequently end up being an AD powerhouse in the mid-late game.
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On April 22 2012 16:42 patochaos wrote:
I think the only way to start boots+3 as Mundo and not get dangerously low is to have spell vamp quints.
Huh? I stick to AS quints and it's not a massive problem.You might have to chug all 3 pots, but when you finish your first clear, you're usually at yellow-low green.
It might not be the most ideal for ganking, but you can easily stick around and farm until HoG.
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Have you guys tried the Dr. Pwndo build? boots of sorc for cleaver dmg, warmog, force of nature, atma impaler, warmog, warmog. gl gh never die 
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On April 24 2012 03:05 Nonexistent wrote:Have you guys tried the Dr. Pwndo build? boots of sorc for cleaver dmg, warmog, force of nature, atma impaler, warmog, warmog. gl gh never die
whenever I try rushing wormogs I do terrible. just my experience, then again I never go for cleaver or sorc boots. is this a jungle build or a laning build? because i feel like it would be terrible for jungling.
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On April 25 2012 02:13 ishboh wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2012 03:05 Nonexistent wrote:Have you guys tried the Dr. Pwndo build? boots of sorc for cleaver dmg, warmog, force of nature, atma impaler, warmog, warmog. gl gh never die whenever I try rushing wormogs I do terrible. just my experience, then again I never go for cleaver or sorc boots. is this a jungle build or a laning build? because i feel like it would be terrible for jungling.
that's because you shouldnt rush it unless you're allready doing well 
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If I get a couple of early ganks in as jungler I'll make warmogs my first item after t2 boots since giant's belt is more affordable. After that it's either atmas or sv depending on how my team is doing.
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even sometimes when I get a gank or two really early it's risky. i don't even try it anymore.
i usually get one offensive item at least before wormogs (recurve bow).
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can you explain what you mean by "risky" then saying that you rush an offensive item before a defensive one? i think you have some definitions backwards
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You're playing a huge base damage perma slowing aoe damaging self hurting monster. I've never ever thought "Damn I don't do enough damage and never even get low hp, I need that recurve bow before warmogs"
I think warmogs is the best build and always have (thought I used to play him top lane), a hog first is nice, assuming you're getting randuins which is most games.
If warmogs is good on anyone it's good on mundo. He uses all the stats and more effectively than every other champ.
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On April 25 2012 02:13 ishboh wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2012 03:05 Nonexistent wrote:Have you guys tried the Dr. Pwndo build? boots of sorc for cleaver dmg, warmog, force of nature, atma impaler, warmog, warmog. gl gh never die whenever I try rushing wormogs I do terrible. just my experience, then again I never go for cleaver or sorc boots. is this a jungle build or a laning build? because i feel like it would be terrible for jungling.
On April 25 2012 02:27 Iplaythings wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2012 02:13 ishboh wrote:On April 24 2012 03:05 Nonexistent wrote:Have you guys tried the Dr. Pwndo build? boots of sorc for cleaver dmg, warmog, force of nature, atma impaler, warmog, warmog. gl gh never die whenever I try rushing wormogs I do terrible. just my experience, then again I never go for cleaver or sorc boots. is this a jungle build or a laning build? because i feel like it would be terrible for jungling. that's because you shouldnt rush it unless you're allready doing well
On April 25 2012 05:55 ishboh wrote:
even sometimes when I get a gank or two really early it's risky. i don't even try it anymore.
i usually get one offensive item at least before wormogs (recurve bow).
Have you guys wawtched pro games recently.. the pro build is
cloth 5,boots, crystal, HoG, belt, SV, warmog, wits
But for some reason the "experts" and "gurus" on LoL forums and some here always make fun of health stacking and downvote anyone who suggests it..
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Eh. I dunno. Wit's End seems like an inferior item on him. The thing is mundo is good at tanking damage & staying in the team fight, so Aegis works well on him.
I usually go hog/visage/ruby crystal into aegis or warmog.
If it's before 25 minute mark I get aegis. If it's after & I still don't have/can't afford Aegis, I get the Warmog & go into something else.
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you kinda need as and crit to scale into late game when W isnt doing much damage any more
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On April 25 2012 06:19 gtrsrs wrote:
can you explain what you mean by "risky" then saying that you rush an offensive item before a defensive one? i think you have some definitions backwards
killing your enemies faster can be useful defensively as well. at the point in the game after boots 2 and I am deciding to go with either a recurve bow or a giants belt (comparable prices) most of the towers on the map are still standing, and jungling is still a large component of the experience/gold that I am getting. keep in mind also that when I encounter and enemy they are 80% of the time outnumbered due to the fact that I am ganking.
what a recurve bow does for me:
faster jungle clear times
faster kills, more sucessful ganks
what a giants belt does for me:
helps me survive counter junglers and counter ganks
it's just a better investment because it spawns more gold for me than a giant's belt would. i mean, sure if there is a shaco running around like the jackass idiot clown that he is, I'll go giants belt, but otherwise I am going to go recurve bow most of the time.
admittedly, I have never experiemented with a HoG, i should proabably try that.
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On April 25 2012 07:56 storkfan wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2012 02:13 ishboh wrote:On April 24 2012 03:05 Nonexistent wrote:Have you guys tried the Dr. Pwndo build? boots of sorc for cleaver dmg, warmog, force of nature, atma impaler, warmog, warmog. gl gh never die whenever I try rushing wormogs I do terrible. just my experience, then again I never go for cleaver or sorc boots. is this a jungle build or a laning build? because i feel like it would be terrible for jungling. Show nested quote +On April 25 2012 02:27 Iplaythings wrote:On April 25 2012 02:13 ishboh wrote:On April 24 2012 03:05 Nonexistent wrote:Have you guys tried the Dr. Pwndo build? boots of sorc for cleaver dmg, warmog, force of nature, atma impaler, warmog, warmog. gl gh never die whenever I try rushing wormogs I do terrible. just my experience, then again I never go for cleaver or sorc boots. is this a jungle build or a laning build? because i feel like it would be terrible for jungling. that's because you shouldnt rush it unless you're allready doing well Show nested quote +On April 25 2012 05:55 ishboh wrote:
even sometimes when I get a gank or two really early it's risky. i don't even try it anymore.
i usually get one offensive item at least before wormogs (recurve bow). Have you guys wawtched pro games recently.. the pro build is cloth 5,boots, crystal, HoG, belt, SV, warmog, wits But for some reason the "experts" and "gurus" on LoL forums and some here always make fun of health stacking and downvote anyone who suggests it..
I don't even see an "expert/guru" in the thread doing this, or a downvote system for that matter. Just a conversation on a LoL champ.
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On April 25 2012 07:56 storkfan wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2012 02:13 ishboh wrote:On April 24 2012 03:05 Nonexistent wrote:Have you guys tried the Dr. Pwndo build? boots of sorc for cleaver dmg, warmog, force of nature, atma impaler, warmog, warmog. gl gh never die whenever I try rushing wormogs I do terrible. just my experience, then again I never go for cleaver or sorc boots. is this a jungle build or a laning build? because i feel like it would be terrible for jungling. Show nested quote +On April 25 2012 02:27 Iplaythings wrote:On April 25 2012 02:13 ishboh wrote:On April 24 2012 03:05 Nonexistent wrote:Have you guys tried the Dr. Pwndo build? boots of sorc for cleaver dmg, warmog, force of nature, atma impaler, warmog, warmog. gl gh never die whenever I try rushing wormogs I do terrible. just my experience, then again I never go for cleaver or sorc boots. is this a jungle build or a laning build? because i feel like it would be terrible for jungling. that's because you shouldnt rush it unless you're allready doing well Show nested quote +On April 25 2012 05:55 ishboh wrote:
even sometimes when I get a gank or two really early it's risky. i don't even try it anymore.
i usually get one offensive item at least before wormogs (recurve bow). Have you guys wawtched pro games recently.. the pro build is cloth 5,boots, crystal, HoG, belt, SV, warmog, wits But for some reason the "experts" and "gurus" on LoL forums and some here always make fun of health stacking and downvote anyone who suggests it..
uh, ppl see a problem with mindless health stacking, not health stacking, there's a difference. If you're just getting hp just for the sake of hp, and taking no considerations like armor, mres or sustain, then yeah, you should rethink why exactly you're getting hp.
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So the basic items I've seen built on Mundo are as follows:
Boots2
HoG
Wits End
Aegis
Spirit Visige
Warmogs
Randuins
ForceNature
In my games I always consider Randuin's and Warmogs a must because they are so good on Mundo that it's almost worth rushing Boots2>Randuins>Warmogs. But what are other peoples thoughts on whether to get Wits/Aegis/SV and what games/situations they would be worth delaying those other two big items?
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I should clarify that I only jungle Mundo and that I max R>W>E>Q 
Wits end does make sense after boots2 and HoG since it scales well with maxing E second. They should hit at about the same time during the mid game.
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Depends. If I find myself counterjungling/invading a lot, or I have to gank lanes with magic damage I may go for Spirit Visage after tabi+HoG, to avoid the bursts/increase my sustain. If I'm getting fed I just rush wit's (because recurve is boss and I always need early MR since I get tabi) to gank even harder. I rarely get Aegis, but maybe I should make it my default second item since it's so well-rounded.
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When I watch oddone play him it seems like he goes
tabi hog sv(i think?) aegis warmogs or maybe aegis before sv.
thoughts on this build?
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On June 22 2012 03:55 arb wrote:
When I watch oddone play him it seems like he goes
tabi hog sv(i think?) aegis warmogs or maybe aegis before sv.
thoughts on this build?
He seems to change it up.
He's streaming right now with Mundo, went warmog's as his first major item.
That's what I like the best. Let support get aegis, Mundo needs his tankyness. The earlier you get warmog's the earlier you can start building stacks.
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