EPT[Champion] Nasus - Page 29
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
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Slayer91
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just remember to bring a pink ward for allins it'll make things easier you can't underestimate her early harass but play reasonable its an easy matchup | ||
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Figgy
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On August 20 2014 02:30 Slayer91 wrote: maybe nidalee, maybe darius, rumble riven definitely not vlad not really, e max works well vs him and also nasus w slows vlad during pool so it fucks him gnar is probably terrible against him but nobody plays him but any melee or semi melee is gonna suck against him Nasus shits all over Darius hardcore. Rumble pushes lane without burst so it's really easy to turn it into a farm lane if you freeze near your turret. Riven 100% hard counters Nasus, you just can't farm against her at all outside of turret range and if she's ever able to freeze the lane you're toast. | ||
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Sakray
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ticklishmusic
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Slayer91
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On August 20 2014 22:28 Figgy wrote: Nasus shits all over Darius hardcore. Rumble pushes lane without burst so it's really easy to turn it into a farm lane if you freeze near your turret. Riven 100% hard counters Nasus, you just can't farm against her at all outside of turret range and if she's ever able to freeze the lane you're toast. unless you feed her like 2 kills or something rivens a fine lane if she doesnt go LW its still fine actually theres no reason riven should ever be able to freeze lane, unless its pre 6 or something but then she can't afford to tank a huge wave and still fight you she c an only zone you until level 7 or something after which if she commits all her spells to try to harass you you can just ult and kill normally rivens tend to E auto W auto then use q's to disengage if you w. | ||
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WarSame
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On that note, what do you think is better to start with? Cloth and 5 potions or Doran's shield? I've always done Cloth to transform it into my armour item, but maybe Doran's could work? | ||
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Slayer91
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dorans really doesnt do anything for you at all if you want you can buy a ruby (for later phage/locket w/e) to beef you up a bit for all ins (assuming you don't have enough for a full vest/frozen heart/glacial, it might be worth buying boots over ruby though im not sure) | ||
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WarSame
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Slayer91
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if i have to walk back to lane instead of tp i often get them because then they are guaranteed value | ||
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GolemMadness
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schmutttt
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On August 20 2014 22:28 Figgy wrote: Nasus shits all over Darius hardcore. Rumble pushes lane without burst so it's really easy to turn it into a farm lane if you freeze near your turret. Riven 100% hard counters Nasus, you just can't farm against her at all outside of turret range and if she's ever able to freeze the lane you're toast. How the hell does nasus shit on Darius? | ||
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WarSame
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GolemMadness
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Slayer91
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Essentially how the darius match up works, is pre 6 you have a fine line between taking a CS with Q outside of tower range and eating a Q harass, and trying to punish him for being too aggressive. That is, you're prepared to take a Q for every cs you take but that will be 2 or 3 before the lane pushes which is only a hp pot. You can maybe take an auto and Q in fact. If darius is overaggressively trying to deny cs without pushing you can fight him in your creep wave with w and e to make the creeps really hurt but just be careful not to get in gib range from his E+Q+ignite+passive stacks+flash auto. Post 6 you can all in him only if he lets you get a favourable engage, as in, he wasted his Q or something and he's in your creep line etc. You can't really fight him while he has ignite until a bit later. I think getting a ruby crystal and maybe even a giants might take priority over finishing frozen heart but it depends if he went LW or not. You want to use the threat of all-in as leverage so you can farm. You can start to shake off q harass with your lifesteal so you just want to watch not being full hp and then engaging on him. He struggles to engage on you because his pull has a long cd and if he uses it when you're not low you get a free engage and you can use the full 5 s of your W and not like 2 s to close to gap. I've played against maybe 4 or 5 dariuses and I didn't have a problem by level 11ish even if they got kills from jungle action earlier AND went LW. (like 50% of my games my jungler comes level 3 when their top is shoving and one or both of us dies depending on if their jungler came or not, its really annoying and it happens vs darius/riven etc). I played against 20 or so rivens and only had a problem against one who rushed brutalzer+Lw and got fed from me underestimating her slightly too much. | ||
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