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smOOthMayDie
United States997 Posts
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Thereisnosaurus
Australia1822 Posts
Any tips for taking on teemo as jax? because it felt like the only thing I could do was pray for jungle ganks (which never came, or came around 6, stepped on two shrooms and fed him another kill). No dorans, no bonus HP... what are your masteries? Aren't you squishy as fuck like this? more than trinity jax, but jax is pretty tanky as is. I do go for 9/21 masteries tho. the CC reduction is pretty valuable. I'm thinking I might try what these guys suggested and go iceborne into gunblade, add some tankyness and THEN get the hydra, rather than rushing it out. It becomes more important later when you have to fast push a lot (and you can actually stand in the middle of a teamfight for a few seconds and whack people). | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
What are people getting for starting laning items on Jax? I've been doing cloth + 5hp (plus biscuit) more often than not. If I was smart, I'd probably get flask more often. I still get a dorans blade before launching into phage. As for jungling, I've been doing machete + 5hp => spirit stone before getting boots and phage. Jax just feels so strong in jungle now. Once you get spirit stone, you don't need blue buff anymore to jungle and can become a gank machine with nearly infinite sustain from the hp and mana regen on the spirit stone and liberal use of counterstrike. | ||
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Djin)ftw(
Germany3357 Posts
dorans boots into tf/ga might still be the build though. Just tried cleaver, didnt like it. More dmg than tf sure, but the missing slow and ms boost make 1v1 much harder. Also, am I the only one who thinks that the new warmogs sucks?  | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
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Zess
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
On December 06 2012 17:38 Thereisnosaurus wrote: So I just got completely shat on by teemos twice. I managed to barely, barely trade kills with them a couple of times by taking advantage of them standing in the middle of a bunch of friendly minons and generally being overconfident, but mostly I just completely zoned off creeps and killed repeatedly when ganks came in because of the constant harassment. Any tips for taking on teemo as jax? because it felt like the only thing I could do was pray for jungle ganks (which never came, or came around 6, stepped on two shrooms and fed him another kill). Accept being zoned and sad at your tower for the first few levels. Maybe start flask + pots because Teemo has very little burst until he has a ton of AP and a lot of ranks into Q (relying on like Q + Liandry's or something). If you can't kill teemo in ~2 secs, he will kite you and kill you, so items like Sheen and Cutlass are really good. So is Mercs to reduce blind. If he's going AD then probably Dblades/Sheen but AD is actually really strong because Blade of the Ruined king is much stronger on teemo imo than Liandry's. If he's going AP, then you can actually just get 2 procs of ult up, jump on him with E and W and kill him. | ||
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Djin)ftw(
Germany3357 Posts
On December 10 2012 07:13 xDaunt wrote: I really like getting Warmogs on Jax in a lot of situations. The high hp base synergizes really well with my rageblade (I'm doing phage/rageblade core instead of triforce). The regen passive also benefits from SV which is one of my favorite items for Jax now. Besides, with all of the true damage floating around out there now, having high hp is really nice. Cho, Darius, and Olaf can all suck my lamp post. hm but warmogs only gives you +300 hp now compared to frozen mallet. So if you build the phage anyway, why not get this instead of warmogs? And its true that the regen with SV is nice, but I think leech is more important. i seriously dont see why anyone would want to get warmogs nowadays unless he really wants to be super tanky. roa for ap, frozen mallet for ad | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
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Zess
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
However, the passive on it is phenomenal. It gives you basically the same stats of current Gunblade, at a fraction of the cost. When you get low enough for the passive to proc, you should be at max passive stacks and max rageblade stacks so you attack hilariously fast and can basically stay at ~25% HP for far too long. It does make me really miss old Gunblade though. 20% lifesteal 25% spellvamp mangg Also with a Rageblade build, you definitely want to prioritze resists, as the item is basically free HP. Rageblade + Frozen Fist seems like a good theorycraft core to replace the AS/Sheen/Slow you'd get from old Trinity core, and the itemization might not be too awkward (although combine costs kind of suck and Pickaxe/Blasting Wand make poor laning items). Maw for MR for more low HP synergy? | ||
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Jaydosu
22 Posts
Also, i found that ravenous hydra is the most lulzy item for him at the moment!. jungle clear times are like 5 seconds or somthn. | ||
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Djin)ftw(
Germany3357 Posts
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
10417 Posts
I think someone said that the best way to deal with it was to rush bilgewater cutlass though. | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
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Jaydosu
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
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Complete
United States1864 Posts
That's how I've always felt about it, anyways. | ||
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Zess
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
Also played vs a Jax once, and he got 2 kills early, but then critical ward mass kicked in and he still fell behind our jungler. His kit just doesn't give as much without gold: his ult is outrageous for free resists conditional on having offensive items, compared to say Amumu who has 2 CCs, build in % HP damage, MR shred, and flat damage reduction. Finally, I don't think rageblade can be considered core on Jax. There's only been a few lanes where I got away with it (vs Fiora lol). In most of the other common top matchups now, the buildup is too awkward and you just get wrecked in lane. Then its hard to pick up as a 2nd item since you really want GA/Randuins. I'll keep trying Phage/Rageblade but I'm pretty sure unless you get crazy fed the resists just come way too late and you can't do your job as a Jax should in the midgame fights for towers and dragon control | ||
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arb
Noobville17920 Posts
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LazyFailKid
Canada750 Posts
On December 21 2012 15:08 arb wrote: what do you guys think of BoTRK/Phage as core? Seems kinda strong but im kinda eh on it atm. Think Triforce into BoTRK or something might be stronger but i dunno. BoTRK/phage/rageblade/maw or something is what I would aim for but i rarely play jax so idk  Edit: cutlass rush on jungle jax is pretty op though, your ganks become true terror with the slow | ||
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Sandster
United States4054 Posts
Jungling with Jax is certainly doable, but he's not the best choice by any means. | ||
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