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Terranasaur
United States2085 Posts
On February 02 2012 14:44 UniversalSnip wrote: just tried it out in game and it's bullshit sorry for the misleading post, I should have been more clear. What I meant was that you could cancel the E animation and attack during the spin. You still dodge stuff and have the stun go off as planned. | ||
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On February 03 2012 02:55 Requizen wrote: I think the idea is that they're just stating the obvious: max W first. If you engage when Q and E (and eventually R) is up, if your W is leveled up, you win every trade. Period. Jump - Counter - W, especially if you have a Wriggles, allows you to trade evenly to victoriously every single time. Yes, if all ur spells are up you will win every trade. The problem is that ur e is crucial to coming out ahead in trades but it has a ridiculously long cd where ur opponent can zone you our force unfavorable trades. Without e and/or ur ult u will never win a damage trade against most top solos assuming you're not already dominating. Even then, most solo top champs have a way to disengage from you very easily. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
Honestly, as long as you're saving your Leap Strike and not smashing it on CD, you should be able to get out of any unfavorable engagement anyway. | ||
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phyvo
United States5635 Posts
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Requizen
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JackDino
Gabon6219 Posts
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
Even without the AP, though, it's still a high damage attack that resets the swing timer, gives lifesteal, and procs your passive and ult. Nothing to scoff at. I think Leap Strike is probably the "one point wonder". While the damage is pretty high, I generally only find myself saving it for chasing or escaping, never as a source of damage unless it guarantees a kill. Edit: By the way, did you know Counterstrike goes off even if you're CC'd? It's very funny getting ulted by WW only to stun him and walk away. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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starfries
Canada3508 Posts
I think both Q second and E second are viable. If you max W and Q with only one point in E, your QW harass hits like truck. After level 6, it's pretty safe to use your Q like that since there's no way they can stay and fight anyways, so they have to eat the free damage. Max W and E is a lot safer though, if the enemy laner is really aggressive and you need to keep popping your E to counter their harass. and I wish counterstrike blocked on-hit CC like Garen's silence | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
Anyway, here's the build that I like: 21-9-0 AD red, armor yellow, AS blue, AD purple vamp scepter boots1 bilgewater cutlass (you really don't need wriggles on Jax given how hard he hits starting at level 6) boots2 (mercs) triforce (this is just too good on Jax to pass up) From there, just tank out as needed and finish your gunblade when appropriate. | ||
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starfries
Canada3508 Posts
On February 05 2012 08:25 xDaunt wrote: Man, jungle jax is really fun. He jungles so damn quickly and safely, and his ganks are pretty good if you use counterstrike properly. If you're level 6, you can ROFLstomp anyone who tries to counterjungle you (or you can invade their jungle). Anyway, here's the build that I like: 21-9-0 AD red, armor yellow, AS blue, AD purple vamp scepter boots1 bilgewater cutlass (you really don't need wriggles on Jax given how hard he hits starting at level 6) boots2 (mercs) triforce (this is just too good on Jax to pass up) From there, just tank out as needed and finish your gunblade when appropriate. The cutlass makes his ganks really scary too... 50% slow, holy shit. I wonder if it's viable on other junglers who don't need the Wriggle's speed but like the extra CC. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
For lower damage, tankier junglers, the damage proc is too much to pass up. The ward is also really nice if you don't buy as many wards as you should or as a back-up ward for when you don't go back for a while. Jax is one of the few that can take care of it and also build it into Gunblade. | ||
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UniversalSnip
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On February 05 2012 12:33 UniversalSnip wrote: you buy cutlass but you don't immediately grow it into a gunblade? After boots I will. Vamp - boots - Cutlass - Merc's - Gunblade. I feel way too slow without boots 2, and the CC reduction is too much in some games if the lanes are CC heavy. | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On February 06 2012 05:25 Alaric wrote: Warmogs? Considering his damage output, wouldn't you rather go the spellvamp/lifesteal/resist route? then cc would rape you. you can't do old jax route of stacking damage/spellvamp/lifesteal/resists because old jax got a ton of hp from his passive. now you're really squishy (no hp) so if they have any cc at all you'll get exploded if you try to go with just spellvamp/lifesteal/resists. | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
On February 06 2012 05:25 Alaric wrote: Warmogs? Considering his damage output, wouldn't you rather go the spellvamp/lifesteal/resist route? Yeah, once you get gunblade, you'll have great damage already, but you'll be squishy as shit. Warmogs is the best 1-stop shop survivability item right now. Some games, you'll need a full force of atmogs set up. Usually, though, you'll be able to get by with atmogs and wits end. | ||
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Alaric
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