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anmolsinghmzn2009
Profile Joined June 2011
India1783 Posts
January 27 2012 06:15 GMT
#161
imo gunblade+deathcap+lichbane is like the best damage item combination on jax atm. Rest tanky stuff. I've been going rylai/mallet+GA for the last two items.
Also if you take the movespeed masteries and quints you can sell the boots for a PD if it goes really late game.
Dunk first. Ask questions while dunking.
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
January 31 2012 07:53 GMT
#162
Anyone else think Jax is borderline broken right now? impossible to lane against him.

Press E then auto zone everyone. Just the ability to press E lets him zone everything. Free trades... and this patch it kills AoE too.

qq.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
January 31 2012 07:56 GMT
#163
On January 31 2012 16:53 iCanada wrote:
Anyone else think Jax is borderline broken right now? impossible to lane against him.

Press E then auto zone everyone. Just the ability to press E lets him zone everything. Free trades... and this patch it kills AoE too.

qq.

erm...E has a 20 second cd at lvl 1, goes down to 14 seconds if you max it first. That's a HUGE window for your opponent to harass the shit out of you. E also only lasts like what? 1.5 seconds?
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
January 31 2012 08:39 GMT
#164
On January 31 2012 16:56 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2012 16:53 iCanada wrote:
Anyone else think Jax is borderline broken right now? impossible to lane against him.

Press E then auto zone everyone. Just the ability to press E lets him zone everything. Free trades... and this patch it kills AoE too.

qq.

erm...E has a 20 second cd at lvl 1, goes down to 14 seconds if you max it first. That's a HUGE window for your opponent to harass the shit out of you. E also only lasts like what? 1.5 seconds?


The thing is he still trades decently without E on.

I should QQ less and play him. See his weaknesses.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
January 31 2012 08:54 GMT
#165
And he's free this week. o/
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 31 2012 08:57 GMT
#166
I actually feel like the new Jax is weaker than the old Jax. I suppose we'll just have to wait till this patch comes out to see how good his e becomes; I imagine it will make him very powerful since you can reliably stun.

The reason I dislike the new Jax is primarily because of the passive change. I miss being able to build pure damage and still get like 600-700 HP out of your items. It's like a free frozen mallet's worth of HP.

The new passive is kinda meh. Like it's cool if you're able to keep up stacks for the attack speed buff, but I feel like too many heroes have similar mechanics. It removes the uniqueness and I even think it doesn't synergize that greatly with how Jax functions in teamfights.

anmolsinghmzn2009
Profile Joined June 2011
India1783 Posts
January 31 2012 09:04 GMT
#167
New jax has more damage. But damage wasn't something that jax ever lacked. Old jax's survivabilty made him the lategame hypercarry. Its just that most people didn't try to play him while everyone's gonna jump on the bandwagon now :/
Dunk first. Ask questions while dunking.
starfries
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada3508 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-31 13:41:17
January 31 2012 13:37 GMT
#168
meh I've only seen one other Jax who figured out how to play him so I'm not too worried by the free week.

On January 31 2012 17:39 iCanada wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2012 16:56 Ryuu314 wrote:
On January 31 2012 16:53 iCanada wrote:
Anyone else think Jax is borderline broken right now? impossible to lane against him.

Press E then auto zone everyone. Just the ability to press E lets him zone everything. Free trades... and this patch it kills AoE too.

qq.

erm...E has a 20 second cd at lvl 1, goes down to 14 seconds if you max it first. That's a HUGE window for your opponent to harass the shit out of you. E also only lasts like what? 1.5 seconds?


The thing is he still trades decently without E on.

I should QQ less and play him. See his weaknesses.

He only trades decently after he gets his ult. Before 6 when his E is down he usually loses. But still I think he's a really strong laner, you can kill or farm in most lanes. I think the only lane I had real trouble against was a top lane Alistar (lol).

actually nm I know what I did wrong, I can probably beat Alistar if I run into him again
DJ – do you like ramen, Savior? Savior – not really. Bisu – I eat it often. Flash – I’m a maniac! | Foxer Fighting!
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
January 31 2012 14:56 GMT
#169
So how do you build him? I take it you don't go wriggles since you mention only one player having figured him out and Wriggle's quite popular. Triforce looks like a nice choice, if a bit light on the AP. Then tanky stuff like atmog, abyssal, GA, and a BT to top if off if you feel like it?
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
starfries
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada3508 Posts
January 31 2012 15:30 GMT
#170
I go Wriggle's Wit's usually, but when I said "figured how to play him" I meant in laning and teamfighting rather than item build. And Jax's builds are really situational imo, basically whatever you feel like you need.
DJ – do you like ramen, Savior? Savior – not really. Bisu – I eat it often. Flash – I’m a maniac! | Foxer Fighting!
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
January 31 2012 16:27 GMT
#171
On February 01 2012 00:30 starfries wrote:
I go Wriggle's Wit's usually, but when I said "figured how to play him" I meant in laning and teamfighting rather than item build. And Jax's builds are really situational imo, basically whatever you feel like you need.

Bleh, I'm never sure "what I need" is actually what I need. I like Jax's new playstyle, but I can't wrap my head around what to build him with. Like, he does well with pretty much everything (tanky, AS, AP, AD), but the fact that there's no "go to core" build makes me uneasy because I end up buying a mish-mash of items and then I'm useless for most of the game.
It's your boy Guzma!
starfries
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada3508 Posts
January 31 2012 17:37 GMT
#172
On February 01 2012 01:27 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2012 00:30 starfries wrote:
I go Wriggle's Wit's usually, but when I said "figured how to play him" I meant in laning and teamfighting rather than item build. And Jax's builds are really situational imo, basically whatever you feel like you need.

Bleh, I'm never sure "what I need" is actually what I need. I like Jax's new playstyle, but I can't wrap my head around what to build him with. Like, he does well with pretty much everything (tanky, AS, AP, AD), but the fact that there's no "go to core" build makes me uneasy because I end up buying a mish-mash of items and then I'm useless for most of the game.

The way I see it, you have to decide what your role in teamfights is going to be beforehand, and then build for that. If you're going to have to dive a carry then build tanky and burst, if you're going to just kill everything starting with the front line then you need lifesteal and dps.

I don't think the problem for most people is build, but playstyle. I find he works best if you can draw someone off to fight 1v1 or 1v2. It doesn't really matter if they're a tank or a carry, you kill everyone really fast and can rejoin the fight.
DJ – do you like ramen, Savior? Savior – not really. Bisu – I eat it often. Flash – I’m a maniac! | Foxer Fighting!
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
January 31 2012 20:53 GMT
#173
Honestly, new Jax does a ton of damage for 6 seconds with his ultimate, then is just decent damage-wise. If you try to rush damage like with old Jax you're going to blow up every single fight unless you're just sitting at your carry and trying to peel/kill tanks, but Jax doesn't really do that very well considering he only has 1 cc on a long cooldown. Most likely, you're going to want to build tanky with atmogs or fratmas.His ratios aren't really all that great and are all over the place so itemizing for damage with only 1-2 items is pretty hard and not all that efficient imo.

Laning is still pretty bad. Sure, if someone tries to sit there and trade hits with you, you'll almost always coem out on top 'cause you're Jax. But most solo top champs have some way to disengage you and Jax is terrible at stickign to a target when his E is down. The next patch will make it easier, but even then, the long cd on his E means there's a large window of vulnerability. Additionally, if you max E first, you don't do any damage since the hit the early numbers on his Q and W, and his E still has a ridiculously long cooldown.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
January 31 2012 21:46 GMT
#174
I tried a boots+3 starts, 21-0-9, didn't receive help for the wolves, and only a one-hit leash for the blue. Dropped to 150 hp with no pots left, I think i'll go cloth+5, even if I don't like dropping so much gold into pots early.
Also there was another jungling Jax in the other team, the bastard ambushed me at wraiths, got an easy kill.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
starfries
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada3508 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-31 21:50:11
January 31 2012 21:49 GMT
#175
For jungle Jax you should open vamp scepter like stonewall :o

edit: I guess boots is ok if you're going to go gank someone but it's not ok if you're ganking on no hp
DJ – do you like ramen, Savior? Savior – not really. Bisu – I eat it often. Flash – I’m a maniac! | Foxer Fighting!
Terranasaur
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2085 Posts
February 01 2012 05:11 GMT
#176
With jungle i've tried a bunch of things and going 21/9 and opening vamp scepter gets leaves me with the most health at the end of a full clear, however it REALLY sucks for ganks. I have had so many people get away with 20HP. The new change should make it easier to hit the stun, so this might be more viable.

for items it feels like Lantern, Gunblade, Rageblade, Mallet, Atma, sell lantern for GA, Gives me the most consistent power curve of just being able to wreck shit all game long.

anyone have feedback on that?
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starfries
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada3508 Posts
February 01 2012 07:15 GMT
#177
Wellll... if you're not sick of hearing from me, I think everyone should build Wit's End. Like wtf, it's so good on Jax. His ult scales with attack speed, his passive scales with attack speed (the faster you attack the faster you stack it), the proc synergizes with his passive and with his two autoattack resets. And the only real drawback for most champions is that Wit's End does magic damage which doesn't work with crit and armor pen, but Jax doesn't give a fuck since he does tons of magic damage anyways.
DJ – do you like ramen, Savior? Savior – not really. Bisu – I eat it often. Flash – I’m a maniac! | Foxer Fighting!
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
February 01 2012 07:40 GMT
#178
Iunno man...I've seen a lot of Jax (1500~1600 atm) and none of them, jungle or lane, has ever done well except one. But that guy only did well cause he had their Lee Sin jungle camp the GP top lane and got 3 kills in 10 minutes. Every other Jax I've seen so far (including me playing Jax lolol) hasn't done very well :\.
starfries
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada3508 Posts
February 01 2012 08:03 GMT
#179
Well the account I play Jax on is 1400-1500ish, so admittedly I end up against a lot of people who either aren't very good or don't really know what to do against Jax.
DJ – do you like ramen, Savior? Savior – not really. Bisu – I eat it often. Flash – I’m a maniac! | Foxer Fighting!
Terranasaur
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2085 Posts
February 01 2012 08:20 GMT
#180
GP has always been a tough lane for Jax, and Lee Sin camping top lane is pretty much standard.
Decisions Determine Destiny - Terranasaur#1719 D3 #557 SC2 3DS FC: 2423-3623-8068
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