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On August 29 2011 23:38 Seuss wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2011 22:53 shinarit wrote:...
ps: im still trying to play her traditionally, im wait for Warden's opinion, but already look to the next best thing, Janna is nice too, but i REALLY miss the heal... This is 150% of your problem. Soraka arguably has the strongest harass of any support now. Trying to play her "traditionally" is an utter waste of her abilities.
No, my problem is Riot destroyed the Soraka i loved. Now when i play i harass like crazy, but its just not the same anymore. Though ulti still rocks. Best feeling to counter the Karthus when he thinks he have a sure kill.
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I quoted you saying you were trying to play her traditionally, and now you say you're not playing her traditionally (i.e. harassing like crazy). If you've already adjusted your playstyle then my only advice is to spend less time seeking surcease of sorrow for your lost Lenore and more time either enjoying the revamped Soraka or moving on.
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She tears shit up in the early-game too... a wellplayed Soraka can zone most champions without too much effort.
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On August 30 2011 01:13 IntoTheheart wrote:
She tears shit up in the early-game too... a wellplayed Soraka can zone most champions without too much effort.
Q is super good at lvl 1 but it always pushes your lane a bit hard... hard for the jungler to come and gank your lane.
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Yea that's the problem i have atm. Trying to harass decently, while not pushing the lane too hard. I end up just using E and auto-attacks to try to push them back a bit, then try to zone them far enough behind their creeps that Q wont push the lane too hard.
Not easy though and it can put you in a pretty vulnerable position also.
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On August 29 2011 01:15 Slayer91 wrote:
Need either rylais or FoN to chase down ppl and movement speed is more flexible than rylais! (can catch ppl in the first place)
Don't you already have a Reverie in that build? Chase them down with that then Starcall slow them with rylai's after you've caught up.
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![[image loading]](http://i405.photobucket.com/albums/pp132/Gallowmere08/Soraka.jpg)
Soraka is balanced.
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I just play soraka as a traditional bot lane support cause teams will rage at me if I do otherwise. Then after 20 min, I go around the map /ignore all and take all farm. Build deathcap rylais and get legendary then carry team to victory np.
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Oh my God I forgot I wrote this guide. Looks pretty legit though, will have to retry hybridsoraka.
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I don't think deathcap is necessary for soraka just get abyssal and ryal's and you are golden
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I hate new Soraka so much. So fucking much. Why does she do so much damage? 
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Jungle soraka is the way to go. Dem Soraka ganks, dawg. Just ask SaintV
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On August 30 2011 03:41 Ryuu314 wrote:
I just play soraka as a traditional bot lane support cause teams will rage at me if I do otherwise. Then after 20 min, I go around the map /ignore all and take all farm. Build deathcap rylais and get legendary then carry team to victory np.
yo
i srsly love to play soraka like that and its SOOOOO effective in my opinion 
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I found new entertainment , lock in BOT game , make drink and snacks , watch top lane getting zoned or even killed by mighty SorakaBot XD
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oh god yes, soraka bot, terror of the universe. She regularly ends up with more kills than some people I play with in compstomps for daily IP.
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On August 29 2011 23:38 Seuss wrote:
This is 150% of your problem. Soraka arguably has the strongest harass of any support now. Trying to play her "traditionally" is an utter waste of her abilities.
She actually just plays alot differently than she did before. Prior to the patch I'd try to initiate level 1 and 2 trades. Most of the time I'd be able to chip off at least 30% of the ADs health before their support would hit level 2 and pick up a heal. This generally let us push the lane and deny some CS via tower.
Now she's pretty passive at level 1. Can't really trade more than once or you fall behind too far. I guess her mid-game harass is a little easier to pull off... but she feels so much less dynamic than before. The changes just shunted her sideways I think - now alot of her ability to carry comes from her damage which feels odd after playing her in a more support role for so long.
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I think those changes are awful. I really liked her and played her a lot but now I have a big question mark on her as to her role and build. Basically building AP is now only good for offense, heal ratio has been HALVED (0.9->0.45) and cooldown DOUBLED this is like a double DOUBLE nerf which makes it a quadruple nerf (i'm good at maths). No but seriously what is soraka's job now? Harassing? Lol. Starcall range is ridiculous and pushes the lane, it also costs quite a lot of mana to spam and wait, what ? Infuse doesn't give double mana anymore ? -> More mana problems...
Well atleast they reduced the cooldown on this one which makes it almost fair...
Only time will tell but I think those changes are really bad, you can't play her offensively in this state, even if it's what riot intended to do it just doesn't work. Hopefully I'm completely wrong.
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She's commonly banned at the almost-plat level because nobody can deal with her solo mid except other banned champs. I feel like rylai's is core followed by Zhonya's/Abyssal/Banshee's/GA in whatever order.
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