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Gryffes
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom763 Posts
August 26 2011 18:27 GMT
#21
If you can get mid.

Dorans ring > basic boots ( upgrade after catalyst, or after roa, your choice ), ROA > Rylai, games over they surrendered, soraka OP, hextech revolver/Deathcap> the one you didn't get.

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Haemonculus
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States6980 Posts
August 28 2011 13:47 GMT
#22
Soraka so crazy strong right now, wowowowow.

Build kinda tanky/cdr/ap, and possibly aegis to be #1 teamplayer. Run around in circles hitting Q as fast as possible. Eventually everyone else has -9000 magic resist. Sweet life
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Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-28 13:50:36
August 28 2011 13:49 GMT
#23
Fuck ap.
Hog+Philo
Spirit Visage
Force of Nature
Randuins
Shurelyas
Adjust based on enemy team. Maybe get rylais. You can get these items on support if you take ignite instead of cv (normals who gives a fuck) and steal cs with starcall spam in lane.

FoN super important because the speed is needed also regen stacks well with your high mr+armour with heal.

AP doesn't scale that well might as well just max cdr and then be tanky and rape everyone like pheonix udyr does vs bad teams.

Once someone lets me get solo mid they will know terror.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
August 28 2011 13:56 GMT
#24
On August 28 2011 22:49 Slayer91 wrote:
Fuck ap.
Hog+Philo
Spirit Visage
Force of Nature
Randuins
Shurelyas
Adjust based on enemy team. Maybe get rylais. You can get these items on support if you take ignite instead of cv (normals who gives a fuck) and steal cs with starcall spam in lane.

FoN super important because the speed is needed also regen stacks well with your high mr+armour with heal.

AP doesn't scale that well might as well just max cdr and then be tanky and rape everyone like pheonix udyr does vs bad teams.

Once someone lets me get solo mid they will know terror.


Somehow I can see this working...

It's just is Starfall's MR shred worth building nothing but tank on Soraka so she can stand in the middle of a fight and Q all day.
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Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-28 14:06:38
August 28 2011 13:59 GMT
#25
It works really well but it might be that I bait SO MANY TEAMS into intiating on me.


One game, it was trist/soraka vs alistar/corki I was overextending bot lane without wards starcall harassing and got killed a bunch of times bot lane by ganks and later a fed corki, some snowballing later and their corki had like 18 kills and we started coming back anyway. We were about evenish and I run back and forth in their red buff jungle at wraiths baiting and akali to attack me corki jumps in from the other brush opposite red. They all go for me I flash out at 1/4 hp, they start dying I heal up to like 3/4 with W and ulti to heal my team and myself with spirit visage. Then I go back in to chase after corki at half hp who takes some damage before waiting into a brush, exhausting me, gattling gun, and then dying under silence because I have like 350 armour with dodge boots randuins, 21 defense and armour yellows/quints while my W is up.

Wouldn't have killed him if he wasn't scared of the rest of my team before I got like 5 stacks of starcall though, haha. I survived at like 100 hp so only force of nature+spirit visage regen and my extra healing from spirit visage saved me.

A couple times earlier in that same game I would like gank corki with no fear and he's like I have 16 kills lets kill this soraka quickly then he realizes he does no damage and then tries to tower dive some other guy before a third member comes to finish him with my star call spam :3.
Haemonculus
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States6980 Posts
August 28 2011 15:11 GMT
#26
Hmmm I don't think FoN is worth it for her though. Passive health regen is nice but I don't think she needs it. Same with move speed. You're only going to majorly benefit from the MR. Lately I build:

dring open if solo, health regen pendant if not.
philo/cdrboots asap, and at least 1 dring is nice to have
visage and/or aegis.

I used to rush RoA, but I'm starting to think it's not worth it. The CDR is so much better early on imo.

That's basically the core build imo. After that you can rush a deathcap, or abyssal, or rylais, or pure tanky, basically anything you want. You're surprisingly durable, and her biggest strength I think is that people don't realize that. They see soraka, and they feel this primal need to murder you. It's like the teemo effect, except instead of realizing you can do damage, they think you can't deal any. 4-5 starcalls later, and they're running for their lives.

You can zone anyone out, and if you're going bot lane, you can wander the map freely and babysit multiple lanes at once. Her overall presence is just crazy strong right now.
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Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
August 28 2011 15:12 GMT
#27
I don't get it, how do you chase people down with 10 starcall stacks without force of nature?
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
August 28 2011 15:15 GMT
#28
Not confirmed but Design thinks Starcall does not have enough range because once you're in range to use Starcall, you're in range to die fast. Might get Q range increase or some better base def stats.
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Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-28 15:20:06
August 28 2011 15:18 GMT
#29
On August 29 2011 00:15 MoonBear wrote:
Not confirmed but Design thinks Starcall does not have enough range because once you're in range to use Starcall, you're in range to die fast. Might get Q range increase or some better base def stats.


Clearly they don't know about my tank soraka build/runes/masteries :3

No real motivation to build AP her ratios are bad and you have some utility like W armour bonus, silence, and good base stats on heal, E, Q, and R. The more AP you build the squishier you are.
Haemonculus
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States6980 Posts
August 28 2011 15:19 GMT
#30
On August 29 2011 00:12 Slayer91 wrote:
I don't get it, how do you chase people down with 10 starcall stacks without force of nature?

Let your team do the slowing, or get rylais huehue.

FoN too expensive to purchase just for the MS boost I think.

Also moonbear, are they seriously gonna boost starcall more? lololololl
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Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
August 28 2011 15:21 GMT
#31
On August 29 2011 00:19 Haemonculus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2011 00:12 Slayer91 wrote:
I don't get it, how do you chase people down with 10 starcall stacks without force of nature?

Let your team do the slowing, or get rylais huehue.

FoN too expensive to purchase just for the MS boost I think.

Also moonbear, are they seriously gonna boost starcall more? lololololl


Your team will be doing useful things, and aren't tanky enough to chase down people.

It's not just for the movement speed buff, being really tanky is important as I said before its a tank soraka build. When you have 200/200 resists without W up then the FoN regen is really significant over time when you can't afford to spam heal on yourself as much.
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
August 28 2011 15:24 GMT
#32
On August 29 2011 00:19 Haemonculus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2011 00:12 Slayer91 wrote:
I don't get it, how do you chase people down with 10 starcall stacks without force of nature?

Let your team do the slowing, or get rylais huehue.

FoN too expensive to purchase just for the MS boost I think.

Also moonbear, are they seriously gonna boost starcall more? lololololl

It's being thought about, yes. But might just be one of those ideas where they end up not doing it. Like when they wanted Blue Buff to give Renek Fury and stuff.
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STS17
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1817 Posts
August 28 2011 15:27 GMT
#33
On August 29 2011 00:15 MoonBear wrote:
Not confirmed but Design thinks Starcall does not have enough range because once you're in range to use Starcall, you're in range to die fast. Might get Q range increase or some better base def stats.


Are you serious? Wasn't the entire point of the healing/support changes to make the supports want to get into a fight instead of just standing back? Now that they have to get close we are considering that maybe they shouldn't because they die?

Good, thoughtful design process.
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Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-28 15:51:27
August 28 2011 15:47 GMT
#34
Abyssal scepter >>>> FoN for some magic defense padding (still a luxury item for soraka). It's got great synergy with her starcall spamming.

I use a very tanky setup on soraka (armor red, armor yellow, MR glyphs, 1 HP quint, and 2 armor quints). I also use 0/21/9. She's just so damn hard to fight with that and can still babysit. Utility has some nice stuff but the most important thing is still to be tanky enough at the start so that you can zone people with starcall and not worry about being killed.

Philo, heart of gold, cdr boots and kindlegem as core. Tanky enough with the runes that you are not worth killing, so that you can spam as much starcall as you like.

This is for support soraka, not solo soraka.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
August 28 2011 16:15 GMT
#35
Need either rylais or FoN to chase down ppl and movement speed is more flexible than rylais! (can catch ppl in the first place)
Haemonculus
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States6980 Posts
August 28 2011 16:16 GMT
#36
Hmmm I still don't think you need it but I'll give it a shot my next soraka game.
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Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-28 16:17:14
August 28 2011 16:16 GMT
#37
Just pretend you're shen when you play soraka and it all makes sense.
I never even played shen more than few times but whatever.
Zeroes
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1102 Posts
August 28 2011 16:30 GMT
#38
So Soraka with Amumu is an unstoppable team.

Amumu's ult really allows soraka to just walk up and cast starcall since she has no way of catching people herself also you really can't focus amumu since soraka can heal him.

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-20 mr from abyssal scepter
-12 mr for each starcall casted
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shinarit
Profile Joined May 2010
Hungary900 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-29 13:54:38
August 29 2011 13:53 GMT
#39
Im so sad right now. Soraka was THE support for me. I love playing support, and i love playing healer, i mostly played healer in MMORPGs, in TF2, even in Baldurs Gate or Dragon Age.
So when i got into a game and asked about who to support with, and they told me some names and what they do, i was VERY happy. I played a little dota many years ago, and there were no clear healer, nothing like Soraka, so i didnt even expect to find her. But i did, we found each other, and we were happy together.

But this patch... i understand why riot does what they do, even though i dont agree with them. They say sustain is bad. I say, ok, Nidalee was OP, but Soraka? She has NOTHING else than heal, her starcall is a joke (its like giving Hawking a light saber, he may cut/burn others, but surely will die in the attempt), her silence is good in some situations, but i always have people around me without any mana, so i always have my W/E/R on CD. She is not like Sona, who heals AND does a ton of other useful stuff, she is only about heals and mana.
I also say sustain is good. You sacrifice something (utility) to keep your team going. See above: Soraka does nothing else, just keeps your team going. No knockups, no stun, no AD boost.
They tried to not nerf her but change the way she is used. Well, success! She is now a mediocre support, and not really good in anything else.+10% range on starcall is nothing, and harassing with silence is nice, but wont win a war. Especially against a Brand or similar ranged champ.

And even if she can be played in other ways (like the OP states (prepatch, but these voices were there then too), and also many others here say they found the way to play her): thats not a support way. And people dont only like the champions appearance (though i LOVE her dryad skin, so beastly, so violent, so...), they like the abilities and its playstyle.
I loved Soraka because she was the best healer, now she still is the best i think, but not really viable next to Janna or other, better supports. Meh.

ps: im still trying to play her traditionally, im wait for Warden's opinion, but already look to the next best thing, Janna is nice too, but i REALLY miss the heal...
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Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
August 29 2011 14:38 GMT
#40
On August 29 2011 22:53 shinarit wrote:...

ps: im still trying to play her traditionally, im wait for Warden's opinion, but already look to the next best thing, Janna is nice too, but i REALLY miss the heal...


This is 150% of your problem. Soraka arguably has the strongest harass of any support now. Trying to play her "traditionally" is an utter waste of her abilities.
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