• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 20:02
CEST 02:02
KST 09:02
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt1: Inheritors6[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt2: All Star10Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists17[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Fresh Flow9[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash10
Community News
2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers19Maestros of the Game 2 announced92026 GSL Tour plans announced15Weekly Cups (April 6-12): herO doubles, "Villains" prevail1MaNa leaves Team Liquid25
StarCraft 2
General
Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists MaNa leaves Team Liquid Maestros of the Game 2 announced 2026 GSL Tour plans announced Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament 2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers INu's Battles#14 <BO.9 2Matches> GSL CK: More events planned pending crowdfunding RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
Mutation # 523 Firewall Mutation # 522 Flip My Base The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 521 Memorable Boss
Brood War
General
FlaSh: This Will Be My Final ASL【ASL S21 Ro.16】 Leta's ASL S21 Ro.16 review [ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt1: Inheritors BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ ASL21 General Discussion
Tourneys
[ASL21] Ro16 Group D [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 [ASL21] Ro16 Group C
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Any training maps people recommend? Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Diablo IV Nintendo Switch Thread Dawn of War IV Total Annihilation Server - TAForever Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion McBoner: A hockey love story
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Strange computer issues (software) [G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Sexual Health Of Gamers
TrAiDoS
lurker extra damage testi…
StaticNine
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1828 users

[Champion] Trundle - Page 9

Forum Index > LoL Strategy
Post a Reply
Prev 1 7 8 9 10 11 13 Next All
anmolsinghmzn2009
Profile Joined June 2011
India1783 Posts
March 26 2012 08:26 GMT
#161
Opinions on top lane trundle?
Dunk first. Ask questions while dunking.
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
March 26 2012 10:24 GMT
#162
On March 26 2012 17:26 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote:
Opinions on top lane trundle?


Pick him into Yorick. Laugh because your passive heals your more when ghouls die than what they harrass'd you for. Win lane easily.

As for matchups other than Yorick... never played em.

/shrug
Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
March 26 2012 11:13 GMT
#163
On March 26 2012 17:26 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote:
Opinions on top lane trundle?

Really good against certain stuff, Yorick and Riven come to mind. I'd much rather have him jungling though because I feel he does not scale too well with items, just based on how good his kit works without them.
currently rooting for myself.
BKSandland
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark79 Posts
March 26 2012 11:34 GMT
#164
On March 26 2012 17:26 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote:
Opinions on top lane trundle?


Its VERY good imo. His sustain once you get wriggles is ridiculous. You can shut down pretty much every AD based champion.

A few pointers/tips:

His skillset compliments ganks very nicely (try to use pillar after they flash)

His W provides ALOT of splitpushing power, so try to abuse that. (You can almost always get away, just remember WARDS!)

When you get your wriggles, you can play him shyvana style. Counter jungle as much as you can. Trundle gets sooooo many wriggles procs. Your mobility from W and slow from E will allow you to escape easily.
;););)
NpG)Explosive
Profile Joined January 2003
France994 Posts
March 26 2012 11:44 GMT
#165
On March 26 2012 19:24 iCanada wrote:
Pick him into Yorick. Laugh because your passive heals your more when ghouls die than what they harrass'd you for. Win lane easily.

Each ghoul heals you for about 5 hp at level 1, 10 hp at level 6 and 20 hp at level 9. What kind of runes/masteries/items do you use so these figures can outheal Yorick's harrass?
BKSandland
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark79 Posts
March 26 2012 13:09 GMT
#166
On March 26 2012 20:44 NpG)Explosive wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2012 19:24 iCanada wrote:
Pick him into Yorick. Laugh because your passive heals your more when ghouls die than what they harrass'd you for. Win lane easily.

Each ghoul heals you for about 5 hp at level 1, 10 hp at level 6 and 20 hp at level 9. What kind of runes/masteries/items do you use so these figures can outheal Yorick's harrass?



I would use the 9/21/0 masteries, going into the movement speed, cdr, and hp/5 points.

I would suggest these runes against a lane bully like Yorick:

ArPen/AD Marks
Armor Seals
MR Glyphs (flat or pr/lvl)
HP/5 Quints

This would give you maximum sustain, which you need against Yorick imo.
;););)
arena_say_what
Profile Joined June 2011
122 Posts
March 26 2012 15:12 GMT
#167
I find trundle falls off really hard late game, he's only really good to ulti shyvana when shes in dragon form :D it's actually really awsome to 1v1 shyvana cuz she can't do shit to trundle with agony
Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-26 15:21:38
March 26 2012 15:20 GMT
#168
On March 26 2012 20:44 NpG)Explosive wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2012 19:24 iCanada wrote:
Pick him into Yorick. Laugh because your passive heals your more when ghouls die than what they harrass'd you for. Win lane easily.

Each ghoul heals you for about 5 hp at level 1, 10 hp at level 6 and 20 hp at level 9. What kind of runes/masteries/items do you use so these figures can outheal Yorick's harrass?



9/21/0 taking everything that reduces those freaking minions damage imo.

EDIT: Forgot runes, derp. Since you get the 10% arp from offense i'd recommend ad marks, armor seals, a comibnation of flat mres and scaling mres blues (you can go either, it's personal choice) and either AD, MS or hp5 quints.
hi
BlasiuS
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States2405 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-05 14:37:43
April 05 2012 14:34 GMT
#169
I've been playing trundle as a jungler since he's free this week...wow, he's amazing. He can clear the jungle faster than anyone I've ever played with; That includes Rammus, Amumu, Fiddlesticks, Maokai, Master Yi, Nautilus, Nocturne, Skarner, and Warwick. However, I haven't played with some of the top junglers like Udyr, Shyvana, Lee Sin, or Shaco.

He clears the jungle super fast, only needs the first blue buff, and clears it with high health (usually I'm at full health). Once he gets to level 6 and has wriggles, he can solo the dragon.

He doesn't have the best ganks in the game, but he does have ganking power with pillar, contaminate, and red buff.

At the very least, he's the best solo queue jungler I've come across, since he can solo dragon and jungle farm as long as you want.
next week on Everybody Loves HypnoToad:
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-05 15:55:27
April 05 2012 15:17 GMT
#170
Trundle definitely does not clear the jungle faster than Maokai (first few clears), Master Yi, Nocturne, Skarner, Udyr, or Shyvana.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
April 05 2012 16:12 GMT
#171
I wouldn't call him a good soloQ jungler, because he needs farm badly, so if you teammates screw up you've got a choice between helping them (detrimental to farm unless you manage to make every gank a kill) or farm the jungle and show up ready to mug those bullies. And other junglers scale way better than him off jungle farm.

He's still fun with that unique pillar stuff and an ult to make Rammus cry rivers, but he's nearly not as efficient in soloQ than in the old jungle.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
noggnoskill
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States97 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-05 16:51:52
April 05 2012 16:50 GMT
#172
On April 06 2012 00:17 koreasilver wrote:
Trundle definitely does not clear the jungle faster than Maokai (first few clears), Master Yi, Nocturne, Skarner, Udyr, or Shyvana.

He's fast, but he's not the fastest. Once Riven gets going she's definitely faster.

I think you're forgetting everyone's favorite Doctor, too.

The main reason I play Trundle is the fact that Pillar is just such a fun move. Everyone else seems to do his thing better than him though, makes me kinda sad.
Never forget, JAYM 4/4/2012
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
April 09 2012 05:56 GMT
#173
I've been trying trundle, and he is a very fast jungle from my experience...I was having so success building him as reccomended though, I feel like he works alot better build quite tanky, and I didnt really feel the need to build wriggles on him, I had more success with wits/atmogs/hog. I really feel like he just destroys jungle camps and doesnt need wriggles.
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-09 07:01:08
April 09 2012 06:59 GMT
#174
I actually don't think Yi's that fast either. He takes a while for alpha strike to get going and even then...
Trundle's faster than ww and the slowbies but still slow as f***.
There are a few champs that can clear fast like I think a cho that maxes E... but then you'd have a cho that maxed E.
Udyr is definitely faster than trundle.. and the speed does matter.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
April 09 2012 07:04 GMT
#175
On April 09 2012 15:59 obesechicken13 wrote:
I actually don't think Yi's that fast either. He takes a while for alpha strike to get going and even then...
Trundle's faster than ww and the slowbies but still slow as f***.
There are a few champs that can clear fast like I think a cho that maxes E... but then you'd have a cho that maxed E.
Udyr is definitely faster than trundle.. and the speed does matter.

yi could prob be faster than udyr or shyv if you got really really really lucky with alpha strike procs(i.e ever time you use it)

i liked running straight attack speed with a vamp scepter start on trundle, really though he cleared fairly well
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
April 09 2012 07:08 GMT
#176
attack speed is non-synergetic with trundle because his AS is tuned with his CDR in the early levels so that you can rhythmically aa-Q-aa, and additional AS can fk that up. try running arpen + AD or just flat AD instead of AS, you will actually be faster this way with trundle
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
April 09 2012 08:20 GMT
#177
On April 09 2012 15:59 obesechicken13 wrote:
I actually don't think Yi's that fast either. He takes a while for alpha strike to get going and even then...
Trundle's faster than ww and the slowbies but still slow as f***.
There are a few champs that can clear fast like I think a cho that maxes E... but then you'd have a cho that maxed E.
Udyr is definitely faster than trundle.. and the speed does matter.


I max E quite alot if they have not alot of CC, very fast jungle with wits and honestly levels in W are cool with the longer silence, but its a tradeoff with the jungle speed and damage.

Trundle AS with Q may be nonsynergystic, but the attack Q attack rythm is gone pretty much the second you get an AS item, so there is no real reason to avoid it unless you are going no AS at all, which is silly because his base damage with Q is already so good.
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
April 09 2012 15:20 GMT
#178
disagree - runes are supposed to get you through the earliest part of the game BEFORE you buy items, especially as a jungler. do i notice the 10 arpen i run on skarner by the time i have wit's + glacial + wriggles + mercs? of course not. likewise, the early 15% AS will hurt you early on trundle and then be unnoticeable by lategame or even midgame. especially because trundle has a hard time just standing and fighting people for extended durations with no hard cc or gapcloser.
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
BlasiuS
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States2405 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-09 16:13:18
April 09 2012 15:39 GMT
#179
On April 09 2012 16:08 gtrsrs wrote:
attack speed is non-synergetic with trundle because his AS is tuned with his CDR in the early levels so that you can rhythmically aa-Q-aa, and additional AS can fk that up. try running arpen + AD or just flat AD instead of AS, you will actually be faster this way with trundle


Agree here. Also keep in mind that for your first clear, you will have blue buff, which means you can contaminate at every camp, which gives you +20% AS.

btw, there's 2 main ArPen breakpoints for junglers:

-13, this is all small monsters except the buffs
-20, this is all monsters except baron (120 armor)

technically dragon has 21 armor, but 20 arpen is damn close to true damage.

13 arpen is 3 quints + 2 marks
20 arpen is 3 quints + 6 marks

I usually go for 20 arpen, it's effective against champions even into late-game, and once I reach mid-game I'm only jungling for the buffs anyway.

edit: though I am curious to know what the optimal early-game AS is for trundle, both with and without blue buff. I usually put 4 points into Alacrity mastery so I can get Weapon Expertise. If those 4 points in Alacrity are wasted I'd put the 5 points elsewhere. I also use the remainder of my marks on AS. If those are wasted, I'd rather use them for flat AD or AD/level.
next week on Everybody Loves HypnoToad:
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-09 18:02:26
April 09 2012 17:58 GMT
#180
On April 10 2012 00:39 BlasiuS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 16:08 gtrsrs wrote:
attack speed is non-synergetic with trundle because his AS is tuned with his CDR in the early levels so that you can rhythmically aa-Q-aa, and additional AS can fk that up. try running arpen + AD or just flat AD instead of AS, you will actually be faster this way with trundle


Agree here. Also keep in mind that for your first clear, you will have blue buff, which means you can contaminate at every camp, which gives you +20% AS.

btw, there's 2 main ArPen breakpoints for junglers:

-13, this is all small monsters except the buffs
-20, this is all monsters except baron (120 armor)

technically dragon has 21 armor, but 20 arpen is damn close to true damage.

13 arpen is 3 quints + 2 marks
20 arpen is 3 quints + 6 marks

I usually go for 20 arpen, it's effective against champions even into late-game, and once I reach mid-game I'm only jungling for the buffs anyway.

edit: though I am curious to know what the optimal early-game AS is for trundle, both with and without blue buff. I usually put 4 points into Alacrity mastery so I can get Weapon Expertise. If those 4 points in Alacrity are wasted I'd put the 5 points elsewhere. I also use the remainder of my marks on AS. If those are wasted, I'd rather use them for flat AD or AD/level.


I have been running alacrity and just 10% worth of AS reds, and I get pretty perfect AAQAA timing for the first few clears. I'' try running AD and see how that works.
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
Prev 1 7 8 9 10 11 13 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
CranKy Ducklings
00:00
TLMC #22: The Finalists
CranKy Ducklings5
LiquipediaDiscussion
BSL
19:00
RO16 TieBreaker - Group B
Artosis vs Jimin
cavapoo vs LancerX
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SpeCial 237
ProTech125
JuggernautJason86
StarCraft: Brood War
GuemChi 3829
Artosis 622
Horang2 451
NaDa 17
Dota 2
monkeys_forever711
League of Legends
Doublelift4181
JimRising 525
Counter-Strike
Fnx 1077
Super Smash Bros
C9.Mang01417
Mew2King79
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor226
Other Games
gofns18261
summit1g12436
tarik_tv12188
crisheroes224
Maynarde97
kaitlyn47
ToD40
-ZergGirl18
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1338
BasetradeTV205
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 83
• davetesta30
• CranKy Ducklings SOOP2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• RayReign 27
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Other Games
• Scarra996
• imaqtpie965
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
8h 59m
Afreeca Starleague
9h 59m
Soma vs hero
Wardi Open
10h 59m
Monday Night Weeklies
15h 59m
Replay Cast
23h 59m
Replay Cast
1d 8h
Afreeca Starleague
1d 9h
Leta vs YSC
Replay Cast
2 days
The PondCast
3 days
KCM Race Survival
3 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Escore
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
IPSL
5 days
Ret vs Art_Of_Turtle
Radley vs TBD
BSL
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
6 days
BSL
6 days
IPSL
6 days
eOnzErG vs TBD
G5 vs Nesh
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S2: W4
RSL Revival: Season 4
NationLESS Cup

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
Nations Cup 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W5
KK 2v2 League Season 1
Acropolis #4
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
2026 GSL S2
RSL Revival: Season 5
2026 GSL S1
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.