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101toss
3232 Posts
On December 08 2012 09:07 Craton wrote: Always take smite. Consume's cast time WILL fuck you over at key moments (e.g. Baron and Dragon). Also getting cc'd  | ||
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101toss
3232 Posts
21/9/0 for most lanes, 9/21/0 or 9/0/21 are situational Items marked with a (u) indicate utility/tank oriented, while (d) indicates damage/sustain dring->defensive boots->chalice->crucible(u)/grail(d)->gauntlet(d)/FH(u)->revolver (build this into the appropriate item for your comp)->abyssal(d)/SV(u)->Void Staff(d)/GA(u) throw in drings as you want, and of course this is only an outline, it's always best to build given the ingame situation | ||
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icemanzdoinwork
447 Posts
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nosliw
United States2716 Posts
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rhs408
United States904 Posts
On December 15 2012 09:57 101toss wrote: After 2 weeks of playtesting, here's the new build for top yeti: 21/9/0 for most lanes, 9/21/0 or 9/0/21 are situational Items marked with a (u) indicate utility/tank oriented, while (d) indicates damage/sustain dring->defensive boots->chalice->crucible(u)/grail(d)->gauntlet(d)/FH(u)->revolver (build this into the appropriate item for your comp)->abyssal(d)/SV(u)->Void Staff(d)/GA(u) throw in drings as you want, and of course this is only an outline, it's always best to build given the ingame situation I don't think I've ever even thought about getting a chalice for nunu, a philo stone always seems sufficient. I've never tried going top with nunu though (mb chalice is needed to keep up with enemy top laner). Can you actually get away with that kind of offensive build? Seems like he would be too squishy. I pretty much always build my nunu into a full tank, eventually getting items like sunfire and/or warmogs. Maybe I'm playing him too safe though... | ||
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OnceKing
United States939 Posts
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emperorchampion
Canada9496 Posts
On December 19 2012 05:40 rhs408 wrote: I don't think I've ever even thought about getting a chalice for nunu, a philo stone always seems sufficient. I've never tried going top with nunu though (mb chalice is needed to keep up with enemy top laner). Can you actually get away with that kind of offensive build? Seems like he would be too squishy. I pretty much always build my nunu into a full tank, eventually getting items like sunfire and/or warmogs. Maybe I'm playing him too safe though... The last like 10+ pages of this thread are discussing top Nunu. nvm, last 30 pages l0l | ||
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zer0das
United States8519 Posts
On December 19 2012 05:40 rhs408 wrote: I don't think I've ever even thought about getting a chalice for nunu, a philo stone always seems sufficient. I've never tried going top with nunu though (mb chalice is needed to keep up with enemy top laner). Can you actually get away with that kind of offensive build? Seems like he would be too squishy. I pretty much always build my nunu into a full tank, eventually getting items like sunfire and/or warmogs. Maybe I'm playing him too safe though... He has the highest health in the game and you get sunfire and warmogs? Wut. In other news, support Nunu is so ridiculously good. Yeti paws op. | ||
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rhs408
United States904 Posts
On December 19 2012 06:33 zer0das wrote: He has the highest health in the game and you get sunfire and warmogs? Wut. In other news, support Nunu is so ridiculously good. Yeti paws op. Highest health in the game?? I didn't know that ;o Maybe it's because I'm still relatively new to the game that I often just think of survivability first when buying items - usually my #1 priority is to die as little as possible. I will try getting some more offensive items though next time my yeti is unleashed... abyssal scepter seems like it would fit him well. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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rhs408
United States904 Posts
101toss did you ever try out GRB during your testing? I notice you have gauntlet and revolver in your build but no GRB? It would certainly be a pretty big investment for a nunu, I think it would have to be saved for the late game as you'll be relatively useless until you finish building it. | ||
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101toss
3232 Posts
On December 19 2012 11:18 rhs408 wrote: Ok I read over a lot more pages of this thread now (lol), I had thought my nunu was pretty good but now I realize I haven't been using him to his full potential (even though I would often come out of the game with zero deaths). GRB and Iceborn Gauntlet sound particularly intriguing, especially the new passive on GRB, holy shit. 101toss did you ever try out GRB during your testing? I notice you have gauntlet and revolver in your build but no GRB? It would certainly be a pretty big investment for a nunu, I think it would have to be saved for the late game as you'll be relatively useless until you finish building it. Hey guys, back from a 2 week trip to disneyland I did test GRB, and while the stats it provides is absurdly strong, it offers 0 resists and health and as a result you're likely to die in teamfights. If you're 5/0 or something you could probably get it to put in the dagger, but I wouldn't call it core. Right now I'm testing a more ap oriented build since defensive stats are worse and mpen is op. It goes something like this: dring->defensive boots+chalice->chalice upgrade->glacial->voidstaff->glacial upgrade->zhonya's->abyssal/wota/sv/ga Note how I axed revolver/wota from the core build; it turns out void staff and zhonya's will offer enough vamp on their own (+170), as well as zhonya's offering more of that hard-to-get armor. If your comp really could benefit from wota, then you could use the older build, but in a league where resistances generally suck, that 35% pen really helps. As for the flask/pot/ward opening, there's no reason to do that. Just don't push, play safely, and outsustain/bully with the d ring start. D ring goes a lot further than that consumable opening. | ||
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101toss
3232 Posts
replace glacial with locket for great justice you lose: 500 more gold 5 armor 300 mana 5cdr build potential into fh/fists and get: 10hp/5 425hp (it's more than a fucking health belt) dat active If you really need dat cdr blue pot should get you to ~40. With chalice/grail mana isn't a problem anyways, and fists are probably better on ezreal anyways as of the current patch. While nunu does have high base stats, the pen changes and resist nerfs make armor stacking kinda suck compared to leaning towards health. tl;dr: fuck season 3 | ||
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Sqq
Norway2023 Posts
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Mondeezy
United States1938 Posts
Tried to farm, he'd zone me with snowball/consume. Asked for ganks, he'd snowball and bb away. Tried to all in, got out-traded any time he was near a creep. Wat do. | ||
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AFKing
128 Posts
On January 16 2013 17:11 Mondeezy wrote: How do you deal with this pain in the ass mid? Tried to farm, he'd zone me with snowball/consume. Asked for ganks, he'd snowball and bb away. Tried to all in, got out-traded any time he was near a creep. Wat do. Shove lane and go gank bottom, or just ditch mid and camp bot. | ||
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
10417 Posts
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Mondeezy
United States1938 Posts
On January 16 2013 17:41 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote: It depends who you're playing, that advice is very situational lol ^ I was playing Twisted Fate at the time. I'm also curious as to what beats him. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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Tooplark
United States3977 Posts
On January 16 2013 22:53 Alaric wrote: Well be careful/safe until you've got enough AP and levels in Q to instaclear the wave, then go gank elsewhere as he won't have the range to touch you and can't push by himself without expanding high amounts of mana (using his passive for "free" pushing makes him kill stuff slowly because he casts less). the last bit isn't 100% true - blood boil gives you enough attack speed to cast consume and blood boil on cd. This still doesn't amount to much pushing power, however. In general, the ways to beat solo lane Nunu are to shove the wave super hard and roam, to harass him off creeps with something spammable that outranges ice ball, or to all-in him before he can wear you down. | ||
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