EPTso that this isn't a complete rage post: i kind of don't like how nunu top is so reliant on bot not completely fucking up. like, am i just playing mid-late game nunu wrong?
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Deleted User 30223
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so that this isn't a complete rage post: i kind of don't like how nunu top is so reliant on bot not completely fucking up. like, am i just playing mid-late game nunu wrong? | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
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iGrok
United States5142 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Jungle is a lane also duh | ||
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
On August 03 2012 07:11 iGrok wrote: Depends on the Elo. At low levels you just kind of shit on him once you take BB at level 4. Dodge every rupture/Spikes AA, spam snowball to out-dps, consume to outheal. Eventually i think chogaths gonna hit a point where you wont be able to kill him and he can ignore you(like he can almost every top) | ||
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101toss
3232 Posts
On August 03 2012 08:58 iGrok wrote: Run it from jungle, obviously. Why snowball 1 lane when you can snowball 4? + Show Spoiler + Jungle is a lane also duh You don't guarantee top will win if nunu is in the jungle | ||
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bobbob
United States368 Posts
On August 03 2012 06:38 Bladeorade wrote: Snowball range isn't so much higher that darius cant use his abilities :/ The 2 Darius' I faced sat in the minions meaning I either had to snowball and run and not CS or Snowball and CS only when consume was off CD. Idk just seems like a hard matchup I would need to see it How is Darius able to do anything? All you do is throw an ice ball, if he pulls you, you immediately eat a creep, blood boil, walk away. He has now dealt like 50 damage to you from the bleed, and took like 150 damage from your ice ball. You can farm as long as he is slowed, which is like all of the time. All you have to do is make sure you are at full or almost full health. Once you hit 6, if he pulls you, just ult, you will outdamage him or force his flash. | ||
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Lmui
Canada6222 Posts
On August 03 2012 10:00 arb wrote: Eventually i think chogaths gonna hit a point where you wont be able to kill him and he can ignore you(like he can almost every top) This is true of the one game I played cho against nunu top in an inhouse. Even with a chalice+philo on nunu, if cho can last hit well, for nunu to push cho out of lane is pretty much impossible. If nunu snowballs cho constantly, as long as cho has some semblance of MR, just last hitting is enough to sustain him. If nunu wants to try autoattacking cho, silence + rupture and the damage from E means that nunu generally will come out behind and eventually will run oom consuming+snowballing on cooldown, even with his passive. | ||
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Zess
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
On August 03 2012 10:31 Lmui wrote: This is true of the one game I played cho against nunu top in an inhouse. Even with a chalice+philo on nunu, if cho can last hit well, for nunu to push cho out of lane is pretty much impossible. If nunu snowballs cho constantly, as long as cho has some semblance of MR, just last hitting is enough to sustain him. If nunu wants to try autoattacking cho, silence + rupture and the damage from E means that nunu generally will come out behind and eventually will run oom consuming+snowballing on cooldown, even with his passive. I think I was that Nunu. Did you get some godly lee ganks? Even though I was behind and sucked at dodged screams/grabbing CS, around lvl 4 and lvl 7 I was able to whittle you down still and force you out of CS/XP range before lee or katarina would come to kill me. You had a super early glacial and negatron too. I think between two players of equal caliber it should be in Nunu's favor early, and if he can deny Cho XP he should be able to outlevel snowball over Cho's passive sustain. Punches also trade favorably with Vorpal because of the AS buff/debuff. After Chalice I never had any mana issues either. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
Edit: Not that it mattered, though. Come late game you're rather tanky, and all you need to do is slow/BB/ult everything and you already are boss mode. Riven couldn't stick to our Ezreal, BB'd him for a penta. Goal! | ||
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Bladeorade
United States1898 Posts
On August 03 2012 10:22 bobbob wrote: How is Darius able to do anything? All you do is throw an ice ball, if he pulls you, you immediately eat a creep, blood boil, walk away. He has now dealt like 50 damage to you from the bleed, and took like 150 damage from your ice ball. You can farm as long as he is slowed, which is like all of the time. All you have to do is make sure you are at full or almost full health. Once you hit 6, if he pulls you, just ult, you will outdamage him or force his flash. Ah what are you smoking where Darius trade with pull is 50 damage from bleed? Pull auto QW is 3 stacks of bleed and a bunch of damage | ||
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Bladeorade
United States1898 Posts
JK he switched to Jax. 1st time this MU | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On August 03 2012 13:14 Bladeorade wrote: Bout to play Nunu vs Darius again, lets see how it goes with your advice JK he switched to Jax. 1st time this MU Jax will be easy. AS slow > Jax, just nom off his jump damage. | ||
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Bladeorade
United States1898 Posts
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101toss
3232 Posts
Every other lane you don't lose | ||
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JackDino
Gabon6219 Posts
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Broetchenholer
Germany1950 Posts
But i guess that's mostly me being bad. | ||
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bobbob
United States368 Posts
Darius is a lane where you take a second level of Q at 4, but really given the start of small golems or wraith little golem, you start roughly half a level up. This means you hit 2 first, so you can chunk him decently before he is level 2. For that matter, he deals no damage until level 3, since you can just consume a minion. Him using Q pushes the wave harder than you eating a minion. You should be able to establish an HP lead over Darius early because of the XP lead you have. Until his Q is level 3, consume outheals his Q. While his Q has a shorter cooldown, your E outranges his Q, and your Q definately outdoes the cooldown on his E. Therefore, if he wants to pull you, your consume will be ready way before he can pull you again. When he uses Q, you can simply freeze the lane, E when he gets close. If he pushes the advantage (and is practically diving someone with a permaslow), then what is your jungler doing? In general, you can just get aggressive with your E's when you have full health. Just never engage him (if his e is up) with less than full/almost full health post 6 (nom a jungle creep if needed) | ||
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On August 03 2012 16:21 JackDino wrote: Shouldn't you lose to shen, or at the very least turn it into a farmfest? He can just shield off all your harass, you can consume his Q, he can freely ult because you can't really push etc(unless you'd run promote). i've only gone up against one shen and I beat him pretty decisively for like levels 1-6. His shield cooldown is pretty high until he gets it to level 4 or 5, so you can still harass him pretty darn hard. | ||
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icemanzdoinwork
447 Posts
On August 03 2012 19:22 Ryuu314 wrote: i've only gone up against one shen and I beat him pretty decisively for like levels 1-6. His shield cooldown is pretty high until he gets it to level 4 or 5, so you can still harass him pretty darn hard. I've only played him once as well, but this is pretty close to how my game went. He also, tried trading a lot early, which I felt I won pretty handily. I got philo/chalice first and he really just couldn't do anything. If the lane was pushed he would die and after like lvl 8/9 I was able to 1v1 him easily. I also took teleport. This was one of the games that I snowballed hard after 1 kill and carried with a ww jungle. Even without the kill I was winning in cs and I'm not su | ||
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