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On December 02 2010 08:53 UniversalSnip wrote:
turns out the supposed E bug... didn't exist. lol.
Are you sure? Do you have the source?
They must have made his damage just come sooner in the channel than it used to, because it seems like the damage on the move ends sooner than it used to. This was one of my theories, that it still ticks 5 times but the damage at the beginning comes so fast that the health bar jumps down at the start. Maybe I'm just crazy and used to a HSS that did zero damage.
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United States37500 Posts
I tested it out with Nufann in a practice game. It looked alright (not buggy).
Nufann wanted to test it out for himself because a lot of people are saying HSS is bugged.
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Heartseeker does damage again and people are already crying about it
what a surprise
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Yeah I just tested it out and it actually doesn't seemed to be bugged. It just does a lot of damage, haha. I was hitting for about 180 damage with E @ lvl 1.
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United States37500 Posts
On December 02 2010 09:38 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Heartseeker does damage again and people are already crying about it
what a surprise
ta-da
Props to gud Panth users like Smash, LoCi, rambo, etc
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Ridiculous amounts of damage actually.
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Marshall Islands3404 Posts
hes still a squishy melee in the end
1 and done
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QWEQQRQWQWREEEERWW imo
as i said before, level 1 HSS is hitting at it's hardest ever, it's pretty crazy just as a tool to work through all the fucking exhausts you see nowadays and can really do a number on opposing teams combined with a group disable. it feels good to be HSSing again, but I'm sad he's even more FotM than before now :\.
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How does the HSS damage scale through midgame? Can you do the level 3 "now you're dead" combo still? Is it hard to manage the mana for him? Did your build change?
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Yea my Panth is being put to sleep for awhile especially since people ARE BANNING HIM. Ffs wtf is this. Aww well. I guess I'll wait till Riot takes him out again.
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Bearded Elder29905 Posts
I picked Pantheon yesterday, because I've heard E is doing damage again. I did some sexy Ghostblade build + dorans and I fuckin raped their squishes in 2 seconds again. Teemo/Ashe, ah feels so good to buttfuck with Panthy again <3
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Sorry if this question would be better served in another thread, but i'm watching Roku stream MaknooN playing Veigar, so it made me wonder - is there a mechanical similarity between Pantheon and Veigar, or is it just coincidence that multiple good Pantheon players are also good Veigar players?
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On December 02 2010 18:52 Niton wrote:
Sorry if this question would be better served in another thread, but i'm watching Roku stream MaknooN playing Veigar, so it made me wonder - is there a mechanical similarity between Pantheon and Veigar, or is it just coincidence that multiple good Pantheon players are also good Veigar players?
It has something to do with stuff falling from the sky fo sho!
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On December 02 2010 15:53 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
How does the HSS damage scale through midgame? Can you do the level 3 "now you're dead" combo still? Is it hard to manage the mana for him? Did your build change?
yep, lvl 3 "you're dead" combo works just fine.
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Ya I was doing hte "you're" dead combo on squishies up to the point we were pushing into their base where it started not instagibbing their squishies last night. Then again I'm not great so I'm not playing great opponents but it seems to do a lot. I know it was the reason I was raping a kog'maw mid. Spear twice, then stun, HSS, spear once more and he's dead.
Also, I dun know if it has always been like this or was jut a bug in one game last night or what but I noticed that HSS animation, and it seemed damage, continued even though I moved before it was fully done a few times. Im guessing a bug cause one time when I did HSS then moved like immediately after starting it it seemed to move in front of me.
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On December 02 2010 15:53 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
How does the HSS damage scale through midgame? Can you do the level 3 "now you're dead" combo still? Is it hard to manage the mana for him? Did your build change?
even at level 1, it's fine through the midgame, at level 1, the damage scaling is better than it was at level 3 last patch and is slightly less than level 3 during HSS's heyday. The mana management is the most difficult aspect of Pantheon's early play when you're thinking of using HSS, and to clarify, unless you're get them at half health with half or more of your mana by level 3, you should probably do Q at level 3 and E at level 4. E at level 3 is just a way to threaten the kill combo. I think Loci's build is still the way to go for items. The only other option I see is to go for the old SotO and focus E build (QWEEER, R > E > Q > W, boots -> bruta -> SotO -> mercs -> ghostblade + GA), but it seems scrubby to lean on a snowball item and a stationary channeling nuke when there's a more resilient build out there.
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On December 02 2010 18:52 Niton wrote:
Sorry if this question would be better served in another thread, but i'm watching Roku stream MaknooN playing Veigar, so it made me wonder - is there a mechanical similarity between Pantheon and Veigar, or is it just coincidence that multiple good Pantheon players are also good Veigar players?
![[image loading]](http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/441/coincidence.jpg)
Yeeaaahhhhh, panth got new passive: "player plays Veigar next game"
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I've played veigar exactly once and never want to play him ever again.
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On December 03 2010 01:20 Mogwai wrote:
I've played veigar exactly once and never want to play him ever again.
That's what alcoholics always say about vodka too!
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no seriously, I fucking hate veigar. I suck at landing his combo, have no idea what skills to level or items to buy ever and want to punch a baby right in the face every time he says anything.
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