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oob
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden630 Posts
August 17 2011 15:25 GMT
#501
So, what summoner spells do you usually go for, and in what lane does panth do best?
Happiest man on earth
crate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2474 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-17 15:36:33
August 17 2011 15:29 GMT
#502
On August 18 2011 00:05 Mogwai wrote:
crate, if you really wanna help a brotha out, run the following scenarios:

use 21 offensive (6 ArPen, 3 AD, 5% increased damage), and ignore your c spec because we all know flat AD Quints are OP.

levels 1-3 Q and level 1 E with just boots vs. 15, 30, and 45 armor
levels 1-3 Q and level 1 E with 1 dblade vs. 15, 30, and 45 armor

levels 3-5 Q and level 1-3 E with 2 dblades, 1 longsword vs. 20, 40 and 60 armor

level 5 Q, level 3-5 E with 2 dblades, brutalizer vs. 30, 60, and 90 armor
level 5 Q, level 3-5 E with 2 dblades, BF Sword vs. 30, 60, and 90 armor

The 5% (isn't it 4% now?) increased damage I'm ignoring because it affects them all equally anyway.

I uploaded my results to a spreadsheet since typing them in again would be very tedious. It's here

The numbers you care about are the bottom half of the spreadsheet. The top half is the raw damage at certain AD values; the bottom half is the damage you actually deal against a certain amount of armor. The armor number I put in the sheet is the number after reduction, so it corresponds to what you asked for. Hope it's clear enough.

Top row for each is the full-AD setup, the bottom row for each is the AD quints/arpen marks setup.

edit: If the google docs formatting looks screwy I put the original online here so you can use that. Google docs doesn't seem to like me freezing rows in Excel, lol. scratch that it's because Google hates Opera
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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
August 17 2011 15:33 GMT
#503
I have requested access to the spreadsheet. thanks!


also I lane him mid top or bot, lol. I dunno, I'm playing at low enough levels that I can get away with anything really. He doesn't do well vs. high early sustain, high early damage tops (rumble, udyr), but I think he works out fine everywhere else.
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crate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2474 Posts
August 17 2011 15:34 GMT
#504
Should be public now.
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Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
August 17 2011 15:36 GMT
#505
I didn't know you got HP from spear, and spear crits. That makes a huge difference. Does spell vamp heal off HSS?

The IE crit chance I thought would be great for the certain death effect on spears but I suppose its over kill anyway.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
August 17 2011 15:40 GMT
#506
So what does it actually say? Which is better, ad reds+quints or armpen reds+ad quints?
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-17 15:44:11
August 17 2011 15:41 GMT
#507
no, you don't get HP from Q, nor does it act like a regular crit for accounting for Crit damage and stuff. I'm just saying that when you Q -> W -> E -> Auto, that Auto that crits at the end there heals a lot when it's critting due to certain death.

EDIT: as far as I can tell, ArPen looks slightly better in most of those scenarios. It looks like ArPen outperforms on Qs pretty much as long as the ArPen isn't higher than the opposing armor, and the Es in all those scenarios look like they favor AD at levels 1-2, are close to even at level 3, and favor ArPen at levels 4-5.
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Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
August 17 2011 15:49 GMT
#508
Ahh kk. Now I see how Im supposed to read it. Got it. TY crate.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
August 17 2011 19:47 GMT
#509
Everytime I leave LoL for a few months I come back hoping Panth is fixed. How is he currently?
Never Knows Best.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
August 17 2011 19:56 GMT
#510
Mogwai's perspective: Pantheon is really really good.

Locicero's perspective: Pantheon loses the lanes he needs to be able to win, so he sucks, I'ma play morgana.

D=
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