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-Kato-
Profile Joined June 2010
Spain1146 Posts
August 13 2011 13:20 GMT
#461
Shikyo trolling, how many times have you incredibly easily defeated Mogs panth.
BouBou.865
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands814 Posts
August 13 2011 15:33 GMT
#462
Oh god I would love to see this match. Shikyo new CombatEX yo.
Playing League of Legends. IGN: Plain Skill
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
August 13 2011 17:01 GMT
#463
funny, I just played dblade vs. a cloth + 5 wukong in top lane and stomped his shit in.

there are plenty of chars who will beat panth with cloth + 5, but it's not dependent on mana regen runes. that extra spear/minute isn't going to push you over the top vs. an irelia maxing W and coming to lane with 5 pots and 50 armor .
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clickrush
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Switzerland3257 Posts
August 13 2011 17:05 GMT
#464
pretty sure dblade garen wtfpwns new panth
oGsMC: Zealot defense, Stalker attack, Sentry forcefieldu forcefieldu, Marauder die die
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
August 13 2011 19:05 GMT
#465
On August 13 2011 16:29 r.Evo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2011 00:17 Mogwai wrote:
All I'm saying is that I run flat armor or flat AD yellows and flat mres blues with a 21/9/0 spec and I'm not having mana issues. If you need a crutch for lousy mana management, run flat mana regen on your yellows and rush a philostone or something retarded like that, but I'm just telling you you shouldn't need mana regen to play Pantheon well and you're essentially just making yourself worse at your job by delaying your AD. The whole fucking point of the buff is that Pantheon's AD scaling kicks in way the fuck earlier, and if you're not abusing that, you're the one playing Pantheon wrong, not I.


What's the deal with SoS over XP mastery? Don't I give my opponent windows where he can actually DO stuff when I don't run XP mastery?

SoS listed in the OP was probably pre-nerf. I would assume that the 9 defense in Smash uses now is for Dodge+Nimbleness but I could be wrong.
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GARO
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2255 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-13 20:44:13
August 13 2011 20:42 GMT
#466
Soraka + dblade opening panth = real #1 fun for 30 armor ashe/sona
Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
August 13 2011 23:04 GMT
#467
So Mogwai can you give a list of the hardest lanes for Pants and the easiest?
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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
August 15 2011 14:40 GMT
#468
On August 14 2011 02:05 clickrush wrote:
pretty sure dblade garen wtfpwns new panth

mmm, maybe. I'm not sure actually because I'm pretty sure Pantheon can just walk into the brush and get brush control @ level 1 and then get a decent little lead on the first push and then just ward the brush for the rest of the laning phase.

On August 14 2011 04:05 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2011 16:29 r.Evo wrote:
On August 13 2011 00:17 Mogwai wrote:
All I'm saying is that I run flat armor or flat AD yellows and flat mres blues with a 21/9/0 spec and I'm not having mana issues. If you need a crutch for lousy mana management, run flat mana regen on your yellows and rush a philostone or something retarded like that, but I'm just telling you you shouldn't need mana regen to play Pantheon well and you're essentially just making yourself worse at your job by delaying your AD. The whole fucking point of the buff is that Pantheon's AD scaling kicks in way the fuck earlier, and if you're not abusing that, you're the one playing Pantheon wrong, not I.


What's the deal with SoS over XP mastery? Don't I give my opponent windows where he can actually DO stuff when I don't run XP mastery?

SoS listed in the OP was probably pre-nerf. I would assume that the 9 defense in Smash uses now is for Dodge+Nimbleness but I could be wrong.

Yea, you're wrong, I use it for SoS. XP mastery is nice and all, but I honestly don't feel like it's essential in lane.

On August 14 2011 05:42 GARO wrote:
Soraka + dblade opening panth = real #1 fun for 30 armor ashe/sona

Taric + Pantheon is really really strong vs. basically any non-Alistar bot lane. Ali fucks stuff up, but they can basically insta-gib any other support at level 2. Utah and I towerdove at level 2 last night and full comboed a soraka from 100% HP while she was still stunned.

On August 14 2011 08:04 Tooplark wrote:
So Mogwai can you give a list of the hardest lanes for Pants and the easiest?

mmm, it's been too long since I've played him and the meta's shifted too much. I'll let you know as I run into more matchups and understand the dynamics, but Pantheon's level 1 laning is one of the strongest in the game (LeeSin's is still stronger probably, but oh well) so I've been finding that I can just win most matchups by stepping on people's throats at level 1 and never letting up.
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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
August 15 2011 19:17 GMT
#469
also, Jungle Pantheon OP

[image loading]
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STS17
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1817 Posts
August 15 2011 21:24 GMT
#470
On August 16 2011 04:17 Mogwai wrote:
also, Jungle Pantheon OP

[image loading]


looks photoshopped ^^
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gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
August 15 2011 22:14 GMT
#471
hey smash/loci
i want to play panth and i'm combing this guide but the OP is outdated and the conversation is getting in the way of what i want, which is just straight info. also chat is down so i can't hit up either of you

can you tell me EXACTLY what masteries you run? beyond 21-9-0? i don't ever run 21-9-0 nor am i a panth player so i don't know which are optimal on him

EXACTLY which runes as well? what's the benefit of AD reds and arpen quints v AD quints and arpen reds on panth? why flat mana regen yellows as opposed to scaling (or in smash's case, what in yellow instead of mana regen)?

thanks guys
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
August 15 2011 22:25 GMT
#472
I run 21/9/0

with AD quints, ArPen Marks, Armor Seals, MRes Glyphs.

I should probably just make a new Panth thread since Loci doesn't post on TL often enough.
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Odds
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada1188 Posts
August 15 2011 22:32 GMT
#473
Smash you gotta try panth/ali lane. lvl 2 ali flashes in and pushes someone into the danger zone, seems to be a free kill against most lanes.
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
August 15 2011 22:33 GMT
#474
On August 15 2011 23:40 Mogwai wrote:
Yea, you're wrong, I use it for SoS. XP mastery is nice and all, but I honestly don't feel like it's essential in lane.

Ah, OK. I figured that dodge works well with Panth's passive, and Nimbleness procs would be useful for him, but I can see the HP5 from SoS being more useful for a champ without natural sustain like Panth, even when you're not gaining a significant amount of mana from outside sources.
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gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
August 15 2011 22:33 GMT
#475
thnx smash trying it right now
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
arnath
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1317 Posts
August 15 2011 23:06 GMT
#476
What lane do you normally take?
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
August 16 2011 05:55 GMT
#477
On August 16 2011 08:06 arnath wrote:
What lane do you normally take?

bot with taric or I boss the shit out of crappy tops like jax, garen, morde or shitty mids like brand and annie.. Note: I am severely underleveled and all of those matchups might actually be hard, but I win vs. all my opposition on pure swag atm.

Taric + Panth > Ali + Panth IMO. Dat armor redux is fuxing crazy + reliable long ranged stuns are dirty.
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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
August 16 2011 05:56 GMT
#478
On August 16 2011 06:24 STS17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2011 04:17 Mogwai wrote:
also, Jungle Pantheon OP

[image loading]


looks photoshopped ^^

it's not
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
sRapers_ValkS
Profile Joined August 2009
United States644 Posts
August 16 2011 06:09 GMT
#479
wtf is with you and TwoDown. know each other irl? same person? twodown your righteous nerdrage account????

why he have SmashGizbro and you play on his account I'M CONFUSED I DON'T LIKE IT YOU MAKE MY HEAD HURT.


ps. no offense with "righteous nerdrage" twodown (OR SHOULD I SAY SMASHGIZMO) <3<3<3
LoCicero
Profile Joined August 2010
1100 Posts
August 16 2011 09:40 GMT
#480
Feel free to make a new Panth thread Smash.
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