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On November 06 2010 09:25 shawster wrote:
i've discovered my new nidalee playstyle
sheen spirit visage hog -> trinity -> banshee/ga/randuins
so fucking good lmao you hit like a truck and you're unkillable. you don't have as much atk speed to kill towers but sheen does fine. only downside is how much ur auto attack sucks.
I agree with Spirit Visage but I absolutely hate sheen unless I'm building it for Lichbane. I also think every Nidalee build needs Rageblade, it's just too good for her to not get.
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On November 06 2010 08:14 TieN.nS) wrote:
Rylai's seems pretty terrible on Nidalee. Early to mid game you can just take your team's red if you're gonna go ganking, and it's not like anyone's going to get away from you pouncing at them/flash Takedown. What spell would even provide a useful slow? Javelin? zz
Pretty sure I'd rather just get a Lich Bane for 300g more!
all of cougar moves proc it i'm pretty sure
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On November 06 2010 09:53 sRapers_ValkS wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2010 08:14 TieN.nS) wrote:
Rylai's seems pretty terrible on Nidalee. Early to mid game you can just take your team's red if you're gonna go ganking, and it's not like anyone's going to get away from you pouncing at them/flash Takedown. What spell would even provide a useful slow? Javelin? zz
Pretty sure I'd rather just get a Lich Bane for 300g more! all of cougar moves proc it i'm pretty sure
That doesn't make it good. I actually think it doesn't proc for takedown and swipe and pounce are aoe so it slows for only a little. Even if they all proc'd for full, you don't need a slow, you're Nidalee.
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How the hell do you 1v1 top vs Morde? I can harass him a bunch with auto attack early on, but even if I get him to like half HP I can't go beast mode and try to kill him because he'll just pop his ult/ignite. Not to mention he pokes you so hard you're not much above half HP yourself.
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On November 07 2010 11:49 Ruken wrote:
How the hell do you 1v1 top vs Morde? I can harass him a bunch with auto attack early on, but even if I get him to like half HP I can't go beast mode and try to kill him because he'll just pop his ult/ignite. Not to mention he pokes you so hard you're not much above half HP yourself.
Yea Mord is actually pretty hard for Nidalee. If the mord is good you can't really do anything other than farm. Just make sure to autoattack quite a lot so he doesn't kill your tower.
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On November 06 2010 09:56 HazMat wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2010 09:53 sRapers_ValkS wrote:On November 06 2010 08:14 TieN.nS) wrote:
Rylai's seems pretty terrible on Nidalee. Early to mid game you can just take your team's red if you're gonna go ganking, and it's not like anyone's going to get away from you pouncing at them/flash Takedown. What spell would even provide a useful slow? Javelin? zz
Pretty sure I'd rather just get a Lich Bane for 300g more! all of cougar moves proc it i'm pretty sure That doesn't make it good. I actually think it doesn't proc for takedown and swipe and pounce are aoe so it slows for only a little. Even if they all proc'd for full, you don't need a slow, you're Nidalee.
I agree with you, just relating what I have seen on other Nidalees.
What do you suggest after mercs/zhonyas/RB/Lich Bane? Just survivability? there always seems to be this awful situation where you can't go into a fight in cougar because they'll kill you in a second and you can't really stay back because they won't be silly enough to just get hit by randomly chucked javelins. do you turn into a ranged dps late game? autoattack range seems awfully short. It seems that your javelins can do an incredible amount of damage if you can hit there ashe/corki/ranged dps/squishy but that's a pretty big IF and that if they have better-than-slothlike reaction time you really won't.
basically, what can you do lategame when its not safe to push solo becasue you've already killed many towers and the enemy team is strong enough that trusting your team to be able to hold a 4v5 is impractical. Is this the kinda thing where you should try to give your team a strong enough start that you can propel your late game characters?
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Shake, what is your opinion on IE? I remember eseka consistently getting it (before rageblade? not sure) in an otherwise standard altho slightly elixir-heavy build, which made him a beast in the midgame when he could still poke with E+autoattacks. It looked... pretty expensive but it was damn worth it even lategame when he'd use it to BD.
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On November 07 2010 12:31 sRapers_ValkS wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2010 09:56 HazMat wrote:On November 06 2010 09:53 sRapers_ValkS wrote:On November 06 2010 08:14 TieN.nS) wrote:
Rylai's seems pretty terrible on Nidalee. Early to mid game you can just take your team's red if you're gonna go ganking, and it's not like anyone's going to get away from you pouncing at them/flash Takedown. What spell would even provide a useful slow? Javelin? zz
Pretty sure I'd rather just get a Lich Bane for 300g more! all of cougar moves proc it i'm pretty sure That doesn't make it good. I actually think it doesn't proc for takedown and swipe and pounce are aoe so it slows for only a little. Even if they all proc'd for full, you don't need a slow, you're Nidalee. I agree with you, just relating what I have seen on other Nidalees. What do you suggest after mercs/zhonyas/RB/Lich Bane? Just survivability? there always seems to be this awful situation where you can't go into a fight in cougar because they'll kill you in a second and you can't really stay back because they won't be silly enough to just get hit by randomly chucked javelins. do you turn into a ranged dps late game? autoattack range seems awfully short. It seems that your javelins can do an incredible amount of damage if you can hit there ashe/corki/ranged dps/squishy but that's a pretty big IF and that if they have better-than-slothlike reaction time you really won't. basically, what can you do lategame when its not safe to push solo becasue you've already killed many towers and the enemy team is strong enough that trusting your team to be able to hold a 4v5 is impractical. Is this the kinda thing where you should try to give your team a strong enough start that you can propel your late game characters?
I really like Tank Nid nowadays. I go any tank item like Spirit Visage (perfect for Nidalee), omen, GA, banshees, frozen heart. If I am playing Nid and games go that long I'd double pot, and then some random tank Item. There are really no more AP items that I need since PS heals for insane amounts at that point.
As for really late game, you can always really push a tower no matter how far if your ghost/flash is up, just watch for TF. If the game is sort of a stalemate where you are killing inhibs but can't finish the game, you're sort of screwed  . Just abuse your mobility to ward everywhere and try to gank someone with your team.
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On November 07 2010 12:39 r33k wrote:
Shake, what is your opinion on IE? I remember eseka consistently getting it (before rageblade? not sure) in an otherwise standard altho slightly elixir-heavy build, which made him a beast in the midgame when he could still poke with E+autoattacks. It looked... pretty expensive but it was damn worth it even lategame when he'd use it to BD.
I've only seen 1 dps Nid and she did really good. I don't do it though because I'm awful at ranged dps, auto-attacking is too hard haha. I feel like what Nidalee has going for her is her amazing heal and it's base heal is just terrible so you need AP.
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Speaking about full-out AP, last month I encountered a full-out AP nid who went for something like tear rush into archangels into zhonyas and she did pretty good. She would use her trap as an aoe slow, it was pretty interesting. The heals were pretty ridiculous aswell, I remember getting caught 3v5 by a respawn and raping everyone with heals filling 60% of my health everytime, it was quite fun.
Note that I'm not advertising any of these builds as the right way to go, just saying that they worked nonetheless. Nidalee is a character that can be fiddled with a lot, and her role changes very much depending on how you built her.
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It is a sad day. Just got rid of my Nidalee runes to make room for Rammus. It's so hard to fit Nidalee into a team comp and she is really bad in solo queue. Hoping for Nidalee buffs :X. Still a really fun and interesting champ though.
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I picked up nidalee after catching her in that AR inhouse and it's been a LOAD of fun lol. I love how strong her level 6 is, she basically forces a kill or takes her tower whenever she feels like it as soon as she farms her rageblade. A perpetual 8 stacks of rageblade is so huge to both dps and your heals. I dunno what to do with her after I win my lane and push 2 towers though, it seems like going from killing people to healing and poking people is a regression and she's a huge buff hog. I've been thinking about trying out a more tanky or dps nidalee, the zhonya's thing hasn't really been working that well for me although sometimes I'll hit a miracle spear from across two walls to kill a carry and lol for like 2 minutes.
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On November 07 2010 14:20 HazMat wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2010 12:31 sRapers_ValkS wrote:On November 06 2010 09:56 HazMat wrote:On November 06 2010 09:53 sRapers_ValkS wrote:On November 06 2010 08:14 TieN.nS) wrote:
Rylai's seems pretty terrible on Nidalee. Early to mid game you can just take your team's red if you're gonna go ganking, and it's not like anyone's going to get away from you pouncing at them/flash Takedown. What spell would even provide a useful slow? Javelin? zz
Pretty sure I'd rather just get a Lich Bane for 300g more! all of cougar moves proc it i'm pretty sure That doesn't make it good. I actually think it doesn't proc for takedown and swipe and pounce are aoe so it slows for only a little. Even if they all proc'd for full, you don't need a slow, you're Nidalee. I agree with you, just relating what I have seen on other Nidalees. What do you suggest after mercs/zhonyas/RB/Lich Bane? Just survivability? there always seems to be this awful situation where you can't go into a fight in cougar because they'll kill you in a second and you can't really stay back because they won't be silly enough to just get hit by randomly chucked javelins. do you turn into a ranged dps late game? autoattack range seems awfully short. It seems that your javelins can do an incredible amount of damage if you can hit there ashe/corki/ranged dps/squishy but that's a pretty big IF and that if they have better-than-slothlike reaction time you really won't. basically, what can you do lategame when its not safe to push solo becasue you've already killed many towers and the enemy team is strong enough that trusting your team to be able to hold a 4v5 is impractical. Is this the kinda thing where you should try to give your team a strong enough start that you can propel your late game characters? I really like Tank Nid nowadays. pioneers just don't get credit for stuff...
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The great thing about Nidalee, is that with Doran's Ring, Rageblade, and Merc Treads, she's pretty much set until lvl 18. You can abuse your self sufficiency by delaying your item purchases to counter-buy what your opponents.
I've had games where I've stocked thousands upon thousands of gold before ever returning back to base to buy more. I had plenty of opportunities, but staying out in the field was the superior choice and got me a very large gold advantage.
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Wra you should write a tank nid guide, that'll get you all the credit you want 
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build visage and locket... oh wait, everyone does that nowadays anyway...
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On December 03 2010 03:27 Mogwai wrote:
build visage and locket... oh wait, everyone does that nowadays anyway... Brees told me to do that and i didn't like it. would rather have rushed GA and pieces of other stuff.
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Marshall Islands3404 Posts
better try warmog's/atma's nid then
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On December 03 2010 06:50 Brees wrote:
better try warmog's/atma's nid then
Stop Trundling my thread, br(o)ess.
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On December 03 2010 03:46 redtooth wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2010 03:27 Mogwai wrote:
build visage and locket... oh wait, everyone does that nowadays anyway... Brees told me to do that and i didn't like it. would rather have rushed GA and pieces of other stuff.
GA is like the last item I think of getting on a tank ever since the nerf. I like SV and Omen on Nidalee, not really locket.
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