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barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
August 28 2011 18:57 GMT
#141
e never affected wards, it was only that u could q wards much like ez could, way back when it actually worked
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gosuMalicE
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada676 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-05 02:47:28
December 05 2011 02:34 GMT
#142
Hey guys this thread hasn't been touched since all the changes in season 2, so i thought I'd share a build I've been using to great success for the past week or so.

Fist off Masteries, I am running 23/0/7 and it seems to work quite (offense op IMO)
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I'm pretty sure all the choices here are self explanatory.


Summoners are flexible but i like tele/flash

Runes on Urgot are basically what has always been good
Reds = Armor Pen
Quints = Armor pen
Yellows = Mana regen / Level
Blues = Cdr

Skill order: QEQW, R > Q > W = E (level W and E evenly)
Occasionally viable to open E instead of Q if you need a better bush checking tool then Q and there is no CV on your team

For items not a whole lot has changed. I find it optimal to open maki and 2xh-pot ->Tear -> boots1 -> brutalizer -> cdr boots. This is your core, with runes and masteries your cdr is close to capped with this so yo don't need any more past this point.
After I finish cdr boots i like to (optimally) BF Sword-> Last Wisper -> bloodthirster -> GA
However if you don't get a couple good kills early game then just go Manamue -> Banshees Veil -> Last Wisper instead

You can leave Blue and Red to your teammates as you have CDR/Mana Regen/Slow already under control.
Your armor Pen will be at a point that really any time you land a corrosive charge on an enemy your acid hunters will have them at half health from full if they are not a dedicated tank.

A note about Urgots Ultimate.
There are two main things you want to do with this ult.
1) Pull escaping enemies into your team (just make sure you are not putting yourself into the middle of the enemy team)
2) Pulling overly aggressive laning opponents into your tower for an easy kill (not many people are stupid enough to get in ulti-tower range of urgot, so this is best used in conjunction with singed or volibears fling, alistars headbut, etc.)

You really don't want to ult during a team fight except in rare circumstances, your damage output is far more valuable to your team then a short suppress.

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Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
March 23 2012 17:58 GMT
#143
So how does one lane against an Urgot solo top ? What's the counter ? :D
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Blind
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States2529 Posts
March 23 2012 19:05 GMT
#144
On March 24 2012 02:58 Erasme wrote:
So how does one lane against an Urgot solo top ? What's the counter ? :D

I haven't laned against urgot top but I can tell you that urgot is made to crush lane. Remember the days of solo mid urgot? In fact, I can't think of any champion that can beat urgot in lane. I'm sure there must be some, but I can' think of any right now.
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
March 23 2012 21:56 GMT
#145
On March 24 2012 02:58 Erasme wrote:
So how does one lane against an Urgot solo top ? What's the counter ? :D


nidalee is a pain, just kus it's hard to force engages on her and her stupid heal, pretty much determined by jungle, malph and cho prob still win (same logic by which they beat panth, tho it's not quite as bad kus urgot can still cs).
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obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-23 22:30:36
March 23 2012 22:29 GMT
#146
Cait kicks his ass in my experience. His ass is so wide that cait never misses it. I don't like how aaa lost as cait vs urgot, I think you have to be more aggressive and be fast to dodge grenades.

Especially if it's a 2v1 lane, you don't want to be trading health for mana against someone with blue buff.

As a top. I don't know.
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nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
March 23 2012 22:48 GMT
#147
Riven should do well vs urgot I think.Also strong junglers.Maybe gp?
Eppa!
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden4641 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-24 05:05:27
March 24 2012 04:43 GMT
#148
On March 24 2012 02:58 Erasme wrote:
So how does one lane against an Urgot solo top ? What's the counter ? :D

Its all about dodging E. Ahri, Ryze, Shen (haven't played vs him post patch though) are all really hard to top against. Riven is easy as fuck she can't pressure pre glacial and post glacial its completely ez for Urgot. GP is really good after wriggles (prepatch at least) you are fucked top lane.

I dunno but tear first feels so overrated my current build (this is for classic bot lane where I spend most of my Urgot time) bots/blue crystal, glacial/CDR boots(never mercs, if they have a lot of cc get cleanse.) If I am snowballing manamune, otherwise FH then situational shit sometimes banshees before FH.
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Cubu
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
1171 Posts
July 23 2012 00:30 GMT
#149
got a question about urgot. Do i need to get blue buff or will i be fine without it (i.e. is it a must for urgot to have blue buff) ?
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
July 23 2012 01:20 GMT
#150
On July 23 2012 09:30 Cubu wrote:
got a question about urgot. Do i need to get blue buff or will i be fine without it (i.e. is it a must for urgot to have blue buff) ?

Well I thought all urgots built mana items(manamune/frozen heart blah blah) so it wouldnt seem like you'd need it?(if your mid doesnt need it though take it) obviously
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Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-23 04:01:13
July 23 2012 04:00 GMT
#151
On July 23 2012 09:30 Cubu wrote:
got a question about urgot. Do i need to get blue buff or will i be fine without it (i.e. is it a must for urgot to have blue buff) ?

Urgot doesn't need blue. Just be smart about using your Q in lane. Most urgots build bruta/glacial->frozen heart. So your mana pool should be good enough for Q spam. Bonus points if you're laning with Soraka.

Don't really think Manamune is good on Urgot tho. It helps his mana management, which can translate to more harass and damage, but it's a pretty sub-par item in general. Prolly better off getting bigger items.
greggy
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom1483 Posts
November 13 2012 19:06 GMT
#152
This thread is pretty old but I was wondering what people's thoughts on urgot are, with s3 coming up. what's his viability as adc and/or bot? tear is getting cheaper and manamune is supposedly getting a rework, so will he see more play?
Rean
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands808 Posts
November 13 2012 19:42 GMT
#153
Kinda hard to say without more specific details. They did say they were making new AD caster items though so there's still hope.
Imperium11
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States279 Posts
December 12 2012 16:06 GMT
#154
What are people thinking about Urgot in S3? New muramane and cleaver are perfect for him, but do they solves his old lategame uselessness issue?
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
December 12 2012 18:59 GMT
#155
On December 13 2012 01:06 Imperium11 wrote:
What are people thinking about Urgot in S3? New muramane and cleaver are perfect for him, but do they solves his old lategame uselessness issue?

I think barring him auto attacking with like PD/BT or something he cant really be that good lategame, he still has good initiation with his swap but his range is far too low to be a decent ADC, like people were saying earlier maybe throw him in toplane or something
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Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-12 20:35:44
December 12 2012 20:35 GMT
#156
On December 13 2012 03:59 arb wrote:
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On December 13 2012 01:06 Imperium11 wrote:
What are people thinking about Urgot in S3? New muramane and cleaver are perfect for him, but do they solves his old lategame uselessness issue?

I think barring him auto attacking with like PD/BT or something he cant really be that good lategame, he still has good initiation with his swap but his range is far too low to be a decent ADC, like people were saying earlier maybe throw him in toplane or something


I've played him solo top. He can 3-4 shot a carry with GA lategame with a BC/muramana assuming he has a FH as well. Muramana ooms him in a hurry, but it gives more damage than a BT. Also does pretty good damage to tanks with muramana up, not anything to write home about, but good.
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Wrag
Profile Joined February 2012
France124 Posts
June 04 2013 13:10 GMT
#157
So, Blue build Urgot was mentionned a couple times in GD. Has anyone given it a serious try? I've tried tweeking the old tanky mana (manamune + FH) into muraman + BC + IBG in ARAM and wasn't realy convinced. Late game acid hunters do hurt a fair bit more with the toggle but the range differential between those and basic attacks makes teamfights a game of constant target switching between squishies w/ acid hunters and closest targets for passive/IBG application.

Anyone with input on SR ? Can't get Sotel in ARAM and I also feel the farm 'distribution' doesn't favor early lane bullies such as Urgot as well on HA.

Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
June 04 2013 17:03 GMT
#158
Acid Hunter applies your passive now though (maybe you already knew it, but your wording suggests you didn't).
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Wrag
Profile Joined February 2012
France124 Posts
June 04 2013 18:46 GMT
#159
I'm aware of it yes , my concern was more about wether IBG is realy worth it in the timing to get it + muramana on SR since afaik acid hunter doesn't apply IBG proc unlike ez's Q. Going for IBG also makes urgot way squishier then FH (more so with the heavy AD burst common these days). I could see Sotel being a decent alternative to brutalizer tho.
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