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Legacy of the Void Beta ending soon (Nov. 2nd) - Page 4

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Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
October 28 2015 00:04 GMT
#61
So that's it huh...
rip passion
Lexender
Profile Joined September 2013
Mexico2656 Posts
October 28 2015 00:35 GMT
#62
On October 28 2015 09:01 Energizer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2015 17:30 xtorn wrote:
On October 27 2015 07:07 Energizer wrote:
Th-Th-Th-Th-Thats all folks!

Dont expect changes after release, what we see now is what LoTV will be. Kinda disappointing actually.

Have you actually read the previous updates where they said EXACTLY THAT, that they will keep improving the game and will also do big changes after releasing it?


Have you read their exact same statements the released at the end of WoL beta and HOTS beta?

Have you forgotten how long it took them to patch the archon toilet?

Sorry, but I have no faith in this post-lotv game. There is nothing in blizzards history pointing to extensive changes.


They completely redesigned a unit almost at the end of HotS, how is that not a big change?
blooblooblahblah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4163 Posts
October 28 2015 00:41 GMT
#63
Actually so sad about the beta ending. Despite its problems, LotV beta has been a ton of fun if you allowed yourself to get immersed in it, I can't believe i played over 400 games in just a few weeks. There will be a void in my life for the next few weeks since i have no desire to play HotS anymore after playing so much LotV beta.

Idk why, but this was 100 times more fun than HotS beta.
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danl9rm
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States3111 Posts
October 28 2015 01:46 GMT
#64
Whatever it's worth, I like it better than hots.

I actually think the eco change was fairly bold and so far, better. It killed a LOT of my builds cuz I'm one cheesy dude, but I'll develop stuff to make you guys flip your lid eventually. Just feels hard to rush as zerg right now when everyone starts with so much cash.
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NKexquisite
Profile Joined January 2009
United States911 Posts
October 28 2015 02:56 GMT
#65
LOTV is in a pretty good place... There will be some OP stuff that has to get tweaked, but thats just how it works, its how it always works... Its expected... I'm stoked for some LOTV Tournaments!
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tantalus
Profile Joined June 2012
69 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-28 02:59:14
October 28 2015 02:57 GMT
#66
The game could still change. Remember when Diablo 3 launched and it was meh but after a year they did a massive overhaul? I think they're just rushed to get the campaign out and then can alter the multiplayer after release as is needed. Whether or not they do that is up in the air, but there's always room to meddle. Also even though the LOTV economy isn't like turned upside down it plays so much faster and every build is thrown out the window, much different from WOL to HotS.
RevTiberius
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada353 Posts
October 28 2015 03:41 GMT
#67
Too bad... I've been looking forward to a new LotV thread full of people whining about balance every week now
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ClaudeSc2
Profile Joined May 2014
United States73 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-28 03:52:06
October 28 2015 03:51 GMT
#68
Really hate casuals complaining and saying they've reverted Legacy back to Hots because they can't handle macro mechanics. Why can't people just be happy by competing in Platinum league against other players who can't use macro mechanics correctly? Don't cry and say you'd be masters or GM based on your strategies, being able to understand how to pull off a specific strategy, 7 gate adept all in or a 2 base ling bane bust, doesn't mean you should be master or GM. I'm fine with a temp ban for this post also.

User was temp banned for this post.
Hotshot
Profile Joined November 2004
Canada184 Posts
October 28 2015 04:10 GMT
#69
I removed lotv, that 13GB was nice as this game is installed on an SSD.

Overall I find the new chrono is not fun to deal with, old chrono was better in almost every way. I also do not like either of the new terran units.

The game could still change. Remember when Diablo 3 launched and it was meh but after a year they did a massive overhaul? I think they're just rushed to get the campaign out and then can alter the multiplayer after release as is needed. Whether or not they do that is up in the air, but there's always room to meddle.


The problem is its harder to meddle mid season, or at the start of the season. You throw a lot of pro gamers off.
Asturas
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Finland587 Posts
October 28 2015 04:17 GMT
#70
Whenever I play LotV I have a feeling that I play Beta, not a finished game. And, yes, I know that it is Beta, but we only have like 2 weeks until release...

And as Terran player I am disappointed, because I don't like new units that T got and playing vs Protoss is even more frustrating than in WoL or HotS. I guess I will not be buying it anytime soon.

I feel the game is rushed and it may scare off many pro gamers. I really hope I am wrong. Now I am waiting for Blizzcon, for the Legends Archon Game and hopefully fore some important announcements about future of Starcraft
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FaiFai
Profile Joined June 2014
Peru53 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-28 04:36:32
October 28 2015 04:21 GMT
#71
Well, after all, the good thing of LotV, i think is the rythm of the game, i really liked it !.
The things that i don´t like, are the abilities or units that turtling the game like cannon pylons or liberator, hope that they could be reoriented.
The debt, that still being things unviable or very hard to be viable like nuclear launches, neuroparasite, swarmhost, between other things.
Anyway i m not gona purchase it, just because i don´t trust in the decisions of blizz, since they made a big decision like the remove of macro boosters and they regreting, after that i don´t know what to expect.
But LotV gona be the best of the 3 expansions of Sc 2 i guess, but still not gona get the success of broodwar, and even gona have less players than HotS in its time.
Boneyard0216
Profile Joined July 2015
Canada32 Posts
October 28 2015 04:44 GMT
#72
Meh, should be fun

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Nakoz
Profile Joined July 2013
24 Posts
October 28 2015 04:54 GMT
#73
Terran's resource collection rate is too OP. Blizzard ending beta is a joke... The game is not close to balance, it feels like the beta has just been started. Nerf terran's mule before we call it an end.
PuddleZerg
Profile Joined August 2015
United States82 Posts
October 28 2015 05:21 GMT
#74
they just want their money.
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insitelol
Profile Joined August 2012
845 Posts
October 28 2015 05:23 GMT
#75
Release the fucking game already. Beta is unplayble for me due to latency issues (~300).
Btw, any ideas for 2-10 of november? HotS only?
Less is more.
Riner1212
Profile Joined November 2012
United States337 Posts
October 28 2015 05:36 GMT
#76
Rise of broodwar shall begin. Kappa.

User was warned for this post
Sjow "pretty ez life as protoss"
MoonyD
Profile Joined December 2013
Australia191 Posts
October 28 2015 06:14 GMT
#77
I, for one am only looking forwards to playing the Campaign mode for LoTV.

Let's face it the multiplayer/1v1 mode for LoTV is not only far from being complete. Blizzard initially proposed these crazy/radical changes, and in the end most of them got toned down and all that's left is a half-way change. I feel bad for the Professional SC2 players who are going to be hit HARD by this imperfect release.
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17260 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-28 06:26:58
October 28 2015 06:15 GMT
#78
On October 27 2015 21:21 Big J wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2015 21:08 KeksX wrote:
Also, we have yet to see what Blizzard really has in store for LotV. I agree they're rushing LotV out atm, but maybe thats out of their hands. However if they have proper plans post-release there's nothing to cry about. With the new features in SC2, we have reason to believe they still care enough.


There is nothing more. I don't know why people are so naive, blizzard said the exact same things in HotS: "continue to make changes; monitor balance, make necessary adjustments; can always change it if it turns out bad; yada yada yada". Yeah, they throw out a balance patch every few weeks and they goddamn have to given how bad balance is at the moment, but do you really believe there will be tons of gamerelevant stuff coming? Skins, maybe. Changes to the matchmaking, hopefully. Maps and singleplayer stuff, sure. But the multiplayer part of the game is done, what you see is what you get.

lol
name all the RTS games with racial diversity that are balanced upon release.
There are none. ZERO. zip. nil.

Brood War took 18 months to get patched into a state of being balanced. How many balance patches did Frozen Throne get? every single RTS game Blizzard releases requires balance patches and changes post-release. This is because the very best players are not fully committed to the game. They are playing something else.

Blizzard is better at balancing their RTS games than any other company which is why they are the only guys still making AAA level games for the genre.

DK and Sigaty stated they'd take a hard look at scaling back or eliminating macro-mechanics post release. Sigaty said the adding of a new unit is possible post release at the WCS-Poland event.

even just balancing a game post-release requires creativity, careful thinking, and a dose of skepticism. it requires resources and smart people. Blizzard is committing taht to LotV.

if balancing were "nothing" the way you imply in your post then SC2, Brood War and War3 wouldn't be the only remaining pillars in a now forgotten and ignored genre of multiplayer gaming.

pull War3, Brood War, and SC2 out of the genre and basically NO ONE is playing RTS games.
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bObA
Profile Joined May 2012
France300 Posts
October 28 2015 06:39 GMT
#79
Imo that's way too soon since a lof of units are still not great in the game for example :

- Ultras are way too imbas
- Cyclones are way too useless

rotta
Profile Joined December 2011
5598 Posts
October 28 2015 07:42 GMT
#80
On October 28 2015 14:23 insitelol wrote:
Btw, any ideas for 2-10 of november? HotS only?

Maybe some WoL too.
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